Manny Ramirez: The Day After

In -- galway for today. It's that simple single day it'll help you can't back up stuff and come home from college. All hell breaks lose the only one I felt works for now I I didn't listen last night and I was trying to watch the Red Sox -- that is true. Mikey and was on vacation yesterday a B a ball base when Mikey could trumpet to the world I'll write knees bend. And it wasn't able to sit here and and tell everybody.

Our Mike yeah would have called an article on the hill -- it in two minutes yet called him from Ohio. They're probably going crazy you definitely might have been looked at your mom's house -- not well in Lima mama I. It's just -- from the house. You know they're probably going crazy in Ohio just -- crazy in Ohio as they are here. Well remain at all places all the places where you play. And immediately there under under your terms that felt like he ran for the money bought and she did immediately here. On good terms because it felt like he quit which he did. And now in Los Angeles I think it'll be fine welcome back to refine. I don't know.

LA it blah blah I don't buy it you know -- magnolia. I -- a movie out of this that's the mentality well what. The guys in his own club Oswalt said his manager say don't say. --

Joe Joe Torre has nothing -- I Joe Torre respect him as a manager wants an all time. Not saying he has no moral high ground to stand on he's going to the Hall of Fame because many of the guys on this team. Did you want to enhancing drugs so please he better not take the high road. Because that's it's fraudulent.

I got to this side of New Haven just after 1 o'clock and decided New Haven -- where you start listening to 103 point seven. So I got to listen to the final hour of UNLV talking about this. I didn't get to hear the hour before that I found outstanding and -- launch line at Sacred Heart University. That that the suspension happened I actually when I first heard and I only heard part of it I thought they were talking money. All I heard was some kid in the land lines today in a suspended for fifty games that they were talking about Iran -- light popped in the mine yet. Manny was you know furthest thing from my mind -- kept listening you guys. And I know things were kind of developing as the day went along you know with a TJ Quinn in -- fish peanuts and I know you know when Peter -- first went on and talked about the medical condition that was the only story that was available. The end of the afternoon the Manning has -- I didn't know I don't I don't -- By the end of the afternoon there could be anybody left. TJ TJ other than -- swelling music on its RI. Here's the quote of the day it comes out of today's Boston Herald Matt burns wrote the piece. Doctor Chris Geary in orthopedic search in dealing with sports medicine tufts Medical Center -- quote. There's no reason from male athlete to take HCG. Other than masking -- steroids on.

About a male person or an athlete out of what it about him being. Sarcastic here is there any reason for a male. To take a female fertility drugs.

I heard caller try to help Glenn. That he was taking this stuff and was trying to explain to land what his reason was mean medical reason and why Manny might have to. Sorry with -- all the respect to the caller who probably -- England the entire truth here's the problem okay. If what you say is true and Manny has a legitimate medical reason. Don't give us male pride won't let him tell the tale because male pride. Get pushed to decide when we're talking about seven point seven million dollars. I'm not I'm not going to just sit back and take it. Forfeiting seven point seven million dollars and we disagree on this I think forfeiting my chance to -- the Hall of Fame. Sorry my male pride gets pushed to decide on tell in the world what's going.

Not -- it probably the only way forfeits his chance going into the Hall of Fame is if the hall and voters decide and they might. If they decide that everybody from the going to punish the entire era and I -- everybody.

Punish everybody. Who they've got. Some stuff. I think everybody who was involved that they that you know has been implicated or in some cases and in Iran's Casey admitted it. You know in any case now. Here's what they'll fall back Willie didn't want to steroid test beat him. Technically he didn't like any drug test. They tested -- spring training they found elevated levels of testosterone. They then went on documentation. Showed that he was using HCG. It was the documentation. But -- HCG that led to his. To his suspension not a drug tests are back on the and look at steroid tests.

Maybe maybe they don't put them into the Hall of Fame just based on his stupidity in this case nothing is as stupid person lots of smart people do stupid things. And this is a pretty stupid thing that he did. And not because he had some condition and didn't want to tell anybody about even if you have -- The smart thing to do is to go to the trainer Wednesday how to handle this how to handle this without flunking a drug test but that's not happen. All -- that would that would -- what happened what happened was. He decided he was gonna get an advantage I don't know when he started doing it you know I went back and were without yesterday -- last are hot and you know. So until it got caught up are you crazy if you think you started in 2005. So what do you think I thought that the -- right you guys are on an. Some so I don't know I don't know but I'm crazy for my opinion yet you have no apparent.

Yeah I mean. As far as I'm concerned you pick any date you want I can't argue with well I I I have no idea now to white pink. That this just happened now this is it sorry not why I'm not -- I don't know when he did start taken stuff. But I think he started when he was in a Red Sox uniform or before that even. I think he was using when he was plates on -- and Red Sox.

Anywhere I mean you look at Manny. We know we didn't have to do it -- you started doing it at George Washington high school which is the possibility. I guess but even in high school. A supremely talented gifted hitter. Just a prodigy. From the time. He went to high school and picked up a baseball bat that is just. What do you so did he need to do it no but -- I get the sense that Alex Rodriguez didn't need to do it and Barry Bonds didn't need to do it Mark McGwire didn't need to either. So needing to do it is not the answer to -- Cleveland I don't know these -- Boston. What was it midway through Boston midway through Cleveland. High school.

See I can't I like no IKEA dubious start date I will say yes. I don't believe that he never used when he was playing for the Red Sox. I believe that he was using at some point during his time here because the only left your last July 31. So. I don't believe that he started the first of August last year and and and that was -- I I don't believe.

It -- look at it I think if he started. In the 21 century. Mean this is assuming you haven't been going isn't his entire life right now but if he started in the 21 century. I think he started. And we started to hear. Some Swiss. That he wasn't quite an elite hitter anymore. You know there were whispers last year. That he would take certain games -- Like that the kid the former Tampa pitcher Edwin Jackson. Had a special pitcher by any means. But Edwin Jackson fastball or you give me any trouble and Manny would ask out of the lineup when facing guys like Edwin Jackson. There are whispers remember right around the time Jason Bay game it's not a Manny left. Remember we were going over the comparisons is Jason Bay Manny Ramirez nobody's not far off. Right around that time. People start saying things about Manny that they had about a before at -- LA. Any blows up Joe blows yet he blows up and we think oh he's blown up because of effort. He's trying -- maybe was trying harder in more ways and we thank.

Eight year you're entirely right that could be exactly what but I but I don't believe that it just started last August 1 and I don't bully. I don't know six I don't know when I can't give you date like you.

But and that's it yesterday in jest but now I'm not really plan around on -- much going to put that much effort into taking PD's. I -- want to play. -- play more advantage of it. It was chill out and 06. He took it off and I know that the the Manny spoke out the -- Don't want to believe it -- you mean nasty media members you just make up up by many your bitter that he's gone trust me. He could've played in 06 he didn't want to play so you guys. Who take performance enhancing drugs. Or show off. You take drugs because you're gonna become a better baseball player who takes the drugs just to sit there -- vacation.

Think about this to and and I give The Herald credit for this this box. Date date date put up a graphic box together -- negated and -- home run hitter of the last 25 years and seven of the ten have been implicated with -- performance enhancing drugs. As they point out Ken -- Are we had never been -- ready yet Jim told me as far as we know has never been implicated former teammate Danny and Frank Thomas as far as we know has never been implicated. All the other the other seven of the top ten home run the last five years Barry Bonds. Sammy Sosa implicated. Mark McGwire implicated. Appeal Palmeiro much doubt about that one. Alex Rodriguez in minute. Now -- And then Gary shipped via. Seven of the ten have at least been implicated if not worse. It one more. Kirk. Made them matter I I I hurt Sean Casey on this morning with John Kerry's marks. Now I heard the -- it it.

It works it works to varying degree -- it no you're right. It works it makes you a little better than what you have so people say. Well that you look at some of these -- who have taken you know Mike Lansing is an exam. Look at these people -- in the metro mentioned in the Mitchell report and you look at their career numbers and are not special and means that made him a little better. It made him a little better but it may be they war. All that special in the first place Barry Bonds is special player without any without stint really -- now you didn't sound that. And he's off the charts.

Yup. That's the thing and and I I understand although the numbers dwindling there's still so many fans in this area. I heard one guy still fans. -- that many Canadians well I think there's a difference. And that is yes defenders of bloody dead now you could be a fan of his and say I don't know if I eat well. I mean really I mean after all -- came out yesterday. I I think -- man here man in the LA times -- says and I don't know what he took and I don't care what he that we all read at this morning TJ yeah. He made a bowl games. We left.

I didn't say nothing.

Mason yen often talk and closely and not just a lot of words.

How do you feel about it it just eat eat -- Hammond and holidays danced around he's tapped danced and -- Gregory Hines can tap dance like there's this is crazy.

fool of himself in any major metropolitan newspaper. He looks like apple now some back it's mine he knows whether he'll admit it. Whether whether it's it's -- that he can talk about what is white. Married but you know when he -- kitchen table. You know. He's like. Myself now -- so suppressed he actually definitely -- located at the table because he's an Iraq. Estate -- front a man here's the problem okay. Believe Manny is an idiot that -- quote yup I always hated that -- always -- it demean him as a human being. It indicated it at the IQ barely above serviceable him might and a wrap up to -- after the August indictment are down but here's my point it might give. And I don't I'm not comfortable that I'm playing in the game. Like I I agree with. Everybody and Scott Boras is office as the saints general like Q level but this guy does. It tell Scott Boris. Released you read from it you've read yesterday from -- oh yeah many that right candidate right. Sorry I don't believe that. Somebody Scott Boras thought cultural. Put it out. Players association let's -- Baghdad -- going back spell check everything you honestly think that that the guys sitting around it's got ports is -- Like. You know just barely about functional. I don't believe that I'm -- say yet. Everybody Yeltsin's got Boris has offices. Here's a look at what's he has his medical condition sake Bob Ryan let's east on the trip. -- You're going to -- Seven point seven million dollars reputation name like I say yesterday all you got is your name and year in your reputation. For lack. Forfeit the opportunity to a whole thing. Because you're too embarrassed right sorry don't believe it. This thing if you're -- say -- only can say that he didn't say he's saying he could be tell on the -- that's what Bob -- And our exhibit Manny and and his statement yesterday didn't say. Com I did this because I was too embarrassed there were no no no he said. Medical and medical condition that I've -- all -- went all right to appeal yet. Sorry. It it. It extends -- credibility here to believe that I'm not appeal because here's the deal came out publicly that but here's my doctor. -- doctor Ali right here this the man who why when Nazi doctor tell you tell exactly what went on and doctor Ali -- to -- on via at and doctor holly haven't heard it brought everything given permission by -- does the guy that her right right now. And he says look. Mr. Ramirez has this problem this problem this prescribed it. This try to do. You know America and its call. Why it's okay that you were. Eight of Atlanta they. No island if if it would wouldn't it be a medical issue is -- it would -- where.

We're so cynical now Delphi and out of -- and and logically and -- and makes it makes sense. In a different environment and a -- in different atmosphere weird atmosphere now people -- so cynical. They would say that doctor is the plant the doctor was paid off by Manny was paid out by Scott Boras was paid off by frank McCourt they've made it up. Bud Selig is -- she felt Ford the players association is too powerful. They made this whole thing happened it was a big production which is cynical but not this. I'm not so cynical. And and pilgrims and -- yesterday that public I'm not surprised by anything so cynical but I cannot be surprised.

By somebody. Oh sure sure -- as somebody somebody who you go I never -- guess what sorry if if that happens the Jon Lester. I'm surprised. I'm. Dustin Pedroia I would be -- his name came out I'd be shocked -- really blood and maybe item IDI.

Take that tough stance that this is on arrive today you're gullible what are you doing. If that's the case then you you have one of two positions. That there's no middle ground here. One of your positions if you feel like you can't be surprised -- Your position if you don't hear. And don't matter to you don't care supposed to go ahead and do what you do or you're not watching McCain's. Right and that if you think they're all -- And you don't care. There are you watching the games right now if you can't if you're incapable of being surprised. And you still watch the games and that means you don't care what what.

Yeah well I guess I know IINS and I agree with I I there are some people who won't surprise and many didn't shock -- It really didn't shock. Like for instance of Dustin Pedroia is named him out -- com. You've got a kitten. I didn't sit there and say that when I heard Manning's name -- whole crap they column. You know Iraq but didn't shocked me it just didn't. Now they're guys who won't surprise me their names canal but there's well there's a number of guys -- and we get to -- from the list. Who would absolutely floor but found out they were used I also disagree with something agriculture -- which was that pre testing. I'm putting words in his mouth that make appointment and I don't mean to be unfair to him here that basically he thinks pretty much everybody which -- In -- pre testing pretty much I mean the number would astound you.

I just don't believe Jose Canseco had the number what -- camera percent to 5% 85 pursue I don't believe it was anywhere close to I just don't. And and I think you know and listen Sean Casey this morning there are a lot of players current players and former players. Who were around in the ninety's. And and the first part of the when he percent to when there was no testing. Who are offended by the notion that. It was a Lucy was the era as a -- put it that everybody was doing that they are really bothered by it because there are some guys put into anything. Right. But then you get into that holds.

Gosh I intently at the people in baseball use and I have a hard time believing it. Half of the major leaguers. Would say outs I know it's probably not good for my health but help -- get some numbers on and part time.

And while you're trying to make a little bit of money if you feel like the difference between. Unemployment. Or. That's too hard to pay the difference between big in the major -- In being out of the major leagues. Is a steroid at some point -- you -- you might do.

Yep for those and I I heard John this morning he made a great point there really in his mind three categories. All of these types of people there is though the the full rate guy. Who just want to chance you know just I mean I can't compete straight up. So I'm gonna use this stopping get the opportunity to get to the shell and even if you don't condone it you sort of understand it. There's the picture who's looking at all these guys step up to the plate looking like the incredible Hulk and say. I can't compete on the up and up with these eyes I gotta do something to try to even up the playing field and then there's the guy Sean Casey described as the hundred million dollar guy. Barry Bonds Manny Ramirez hundred million dollar I -- you and it. And an and you just it -- you why they're even -- up. Oh yeah Barry Bonds needed this to get an edge I'm Manny Ramirez needed this -- to have to be able to compete date today in Major League Baseball.

Three and that will it will use a football term here Barry Bonds that use its -- did and as he did it to set the heads OK I mean really. -- He's doing a great. I think it goes beyond. The sport. Gets into. Doctor -- can get this Kiffin to -- category this that the bow what you are and security and and the need war. At elation or something. Because if your Barry -- you have at all. You don't need any thing to -- to draw more attention to yourself don't get as much attention. As you well or as some of the other people on the game. I can Griffey got more attention Barry Bonds Barry Bonds is clean we thank. Had a lot to a bonds' personality had nothing to do it. Baseball people not recognize that Zardari not to bring it would get the attention he felt like he deserves. He was -- multiple MVP winner. And every tool you aptly --