Pat Kirwan, NFL.com

Welcome back Dennis and Callahan rather than Jerry and John pretend we know what we're talking about when it comes to the NFL draft. We'd rather bring in our expert dollar -- people on the program. Senior analyst read a build -- compact Irwin joins us on the AT&T hotline good morning mr. -- how -- Gary are doing great it's a jumping off point here -- give us a sense here on this particular day. How locked in our most teams in the NFL in terms of what they're going to do in this draft versus how fluid as this thing happen once the bell rings.

Well this situation that they can't control yet they're they're bored you're done and mostly guys is that the B word -- our board -- locked up. And they've made -- like the leaderboard shaped up until now that would motivate them to get out opponents start trying to set up some scenarios to move in and out of their pick. But they also have to work on the outbid the unpredictability of the draft so a lot in the going to happen as we've got all well. During the draft but those you don't get that done the ten minutes between picks the first right get it on the day Friday. And maybe early tomorrow morning and you have -- didn't he plants them to move out of -- spot. If you're players not going to be there or you want to go to a different spot and and I think kept going on quite more that it ever has before I don't know we have veteran players are going to move around the strength.

That we've heard again and again and again almost since like the Super Bowl and that a minute after the Super Bowl ended that this draft is is sort of even tore the top that the the first player chosen. Might be of about the same value -- the fifteenth or twentieth you buy into that.

Well no I don't I think good night to say those things but I think there are a couple of is that the quarterback scare everybody wants that -- could be as everyone knows but they are juniors they're both understood -- three. You stay the probability of success based on history and you're scared but the tackles are good players you know part of tackles. I'm not gonna say there I've -- but they you guys can function as starters. Jason Smith Eugene Monroe even Andre Smith you know barring any -- stupidity on his part to look at the plate for ten years then make a solid first round pick.

Does that mean in your mind Detroit is taken -- tackle.

like look at curry out there are not my radio show when he broke commitment that you would do what pre draft deal with Detroit. That there are spread all over the place but what we don't point -- look I understand. I want to beat Detroit Lions. I -- then I'd I'd have to take less than a -- I also don't eat soda right on the air that he would take less than Jake Long. Took last year the top pick to resign with Detroit news he knows he might be dead end and pro business sense he could slide oh wait five. So I I'd see him thinking this -- and that I believe apply pressure to Stafford get a deal done. You know Bob Simon for the top spot everybody knows that because what happened at the topics set the tone for the rest of the draft especially -- the cubic.

What what is the motivation of courage just to get more money even if he takes Less Than Jake -- in the more than he would a number of five minute. It seems like a strange strategy to take to get yourself to Detroit.

Well he you know what yet there's and I I felt the same way when it started out talking to him about it but -- He really liked Jim Schwartz in your humble kid was really both speed on the ground you -- you ain't very trustworthy and you're like up until. He also felt like what you've been there particularly Julian Peterson was recruit them. And get them to think about -- and he got excited about the concept of him being the middle linebacker with -- development side Giuliani other. And he really he talked apple it. About you know playing in that situation be in the might factor in Detroit. I think two guys very comfortable wanting to go there and I picked you know and as I'm sure they -- spelled out the my apartment but. Emotionally I think the guy would like to be part of it.

It who is dropping like a stone and losing money like GM and who's rising with a bullet.

You know what that says they'll drive -- certain benefit and and I you know my last month after a critical outcome would come out there I have met -- And I don't think it beyond. No possibility that the rams take of themselves another inmate cells spot but I think they could and they strongly considering taking care of themselves. So you can't that you almost bet that are also -- Jackson. Has risen up into the -- I've been in in my mind candidates and you'll take about three and the reason is Scott -- remembered. When he was that Belichick how they build their deep principle first round draft pick somebody spent a lot. And Tyson Jackson has most of the straits of Richard Seymour. And so you know it's got going to think -- on -- going to understand and remember what they did when he built there so I exactly and on the right. And he got an independent group fell far up it just they just by the transaction with Atlanta you know they can Gonzales that that may put medic helicopters secular.

The rocket fuel that that that blasted Sanchez off -- me people have said why -- only starting sixteen games not that big of a deal what what what happened.

A lot of -- in order is -- quote they. Buick the a lot of guys were very impressed speculate that a bunch of private work out. And the eBay got more impressed but. Once you have told -- look we bargained for visit we will work them out as we don't go to get to know the kid do the due diligence and he overwhelmed them. Was a his knowledge of football and these personality innate ability leadership's booted out of the guy. They're appointed you gotta have marked by an outback. That's so if not we're not we go watch the consent to have stalled before him. But the reasons really NN they'll build them -- sat down the other day in you know after -- in war games -- of them. Though he did police get all of those -- put so much so he blew out California don't want to work out. And so does that look forget most of the guys can't -- Paula I can make all the throws. And he's mechanically sound as Iraq so you know -- got him excited I just on one trip to the west coast want to work.

A -- Peter King has Percy Hartman go to the patriots at number 23 does that make sense to you.

In -- you are present although failed a drug -- at least. If not immediate slipped out of first -- potentially what I heard the last few days is that person Marvin. Is fighting his way back in the first -- installed everybody that he basically would take a drug a drug test every back. If you wanted to you know restricted to now there's always technicalities we -- contractual issues nowadays the -- Opie and everything else but. I think these guys pushed himself back in a first round I have go to Miami. And a lot of guys think that even Minnesota is still very injured they were very interested him prior to the drug issues I know Brad Dutch soldiers melted yet there is so Minnesota. Maybe doing Obama -- by an -- that ignoring orders. Really going to rebuild some of that other back in their defense whether its outside linebackers or those people in the secondary.

Where do you think it makes sense for them to start pat.

to -- about their likelihood just the way I've gone out address they're going to react though things that happen had a vote I think -- about a guy like -- now. That being said. And I represent -- and what supportive of Belichick's scheme he can handle all the stuff they're going to do he's done his homework on that part of Kuwait. About the other particle device still think. I still think an eleventh hour that's not going to his -- Oh yeah I do -- big -- to look a lot of exploration you gotta think of it and Carolina's point of view. Figured there hamstrung with money they're -- their quarterback at 34 year old quarterback to get themselves some breathing room. And they've got a lot of needs. And and knew it the fire power although that -- to put up act together and close the deal and Bill Belichick. Has done draft they POW I hope that they welcome the draft day deal but we've already bought my draft video so. It they've done it before and then head coach -- GM and knowing that he can make a decision I think as they could still alive. And I love to get quiet and that makes it more alike than me.

Pat which which team in the NFL pass to hit you talk about a team with a lot of needs an absolute walked off ninth inning Grand Slam home run on draft day to keep breathing you know competitive -- in the National Football League.

They -- Kansas City I don't a lot of Kansas City says yes they don't completely irate about the lawsuit in -- and they can accepted -- pretty low and but the ones when they heard the pick was for 2010. They were -- went ballistic so that the I think all the all the cheap -- that personalized Scott and what's going on there. And they want to believe in the plan. There's scared to death that we just gave away our best offensive player I would not -- enough to get picked this year ports so I think Kansas City. Has got to get -- opponent like you they opened up the move out of the spot. To create enough draft pick to create enough enthusiasm about the draft -- played a lot of pressure on and.

Are there growing pains when somebody like Scott pioli who has worked so closely and effectively -- Bill Belichick leaves and goes somewhere else and the organ of the organization -- three shuffle will will they feel some of that in this draft --

You know I think they'll -- so that's -- the people that were left over and I've I've been through this with our Bill Parcells and Belichick and Scott when I first came to debt. They're going to do everything their way and ultimately they're going to get rid of everybody and because they want an appetite ship with their their mindset and -- people so. There's pressure inside that organization. To do things that Scott slave or both Biden spoke outside it was -- okay that they should run our relationship do it your mind's -- and how you want to do it by don't think there's no question there.

When does pat white get drafted witness to go and does he play quarterback in the NFL over and in do you think you -- and appear how's that for -- I think one.

You know like it quickly got pat white I think that the -- in the third round. And I do believe that he's going to get a chance I think a lot of guys that dabbled with the wildcat stuff he's here is that issue for you. Anything that takes them I do think that he's held his ground -- at quarterback and not stubborn about other things he just wants to give a shot that it. The wildcat fans of the issues so I think third -- know that the wild card. What that they had not taken off like it did last year I think fourth round could have but now I think third round. With all the reasons -- the dynamics of having a -- of the children and situation.

Apparently -- you got a million things -- due to a final question this is kind of a fun one give us a name that we may not know right now the three years from now. 32 teams in the AF -- probably missed this guy in the first round somebody's going to be an impact stud three years from now that we don't know about.

If I had vehicle that felt like it back it'll. -- a traitor to big nose tackle that Stillman College. Look at what you've got to go to sixth or seventh round communicate that has played at a small school buddies 350 company ran by -- flat. The budget came look at for the 340 cents and in all need nose tackle Denver. Kansas City Green Bay you -- and make the conversion they don't have those tackles some of -- take a shot this -- the and maybe he's.

We know Matthew Stafford goes number one this year who goes number one in 2010.

In our guest on -- question hopefully people. Jobs has spent all of there's times they are all these kids he's got nothing else to do it watching tape all day long. He thinks Tebow and I got that from another reliable source pleasant things -- going to be the number one pick.

Carol thanks for the time senior analyst that I felt dot com we appreciate the conversation good -- direct write about -- the Santelli animate AT&T --