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Joining us on the AT&T hotline AT&T your world delivered. Is our body from the New York Post -- canas -- you know mark I used the wannabe Michael Holley after I died and came back to -- the white fear. But when I found out that you are the great -- nineteen -- correspondent for the golf channel that's what I want to be when I'd I'd come back.
Well you know I'd love to have yet to come you know let's let's do it together.
Pretty good as you can be your assistant mark.
He could be my AS special assistant to the assistant.
Well what what did you think yesterday got down the stretch that you think. Kenny Perry -- going to have this thing all locked up.
You know I -- try it at night I swear I'm not just saying this I actually -- the -- Golf channel sick and I it just about 130 yesterday. As tiger so we're teeing off. I was concerned about how Perry was going to handle the enormity of the moment on Sunday and and frankly for much of the day it was pretty well. You know unfortunately -- glued. On seventeen and eighteen and I just he wanted this so badly. I just got weird by that I -- after Saturday night's press conference when he was done third round. He just seemed kind of nervous in tight to me. I had -- about you know what it would mean you know to have that green jacket he spoke about it on Friday that was spotted recently got a when one of those green jacket and and Kenny was like a little ago there are not going there until at the jacket on it just seemed content skittish about avenue into that question and and I just I was worried -- yesterday and -- and I it was in no way re against -- that it would've been a great story to win that thing. But it is something missed in the air for him what when it comes down at the top of the most pressure packed situation.
We were talking to Tedy Bruschi earlier today and he was saying you know that what happened yesterday was the talk of the patriots -- Roman. And and Michael asked the question he said do you think Kenny Perry joked and after a long hesitation Teddy said yeah I think he probably did what do you think.
I think he did -- you know I mean we all show. Yeah and then. It's human nature and some guys are able to stamp that out more than others Tiger Woods being the probably great -- the all of them. That would -- Phil Mickelson. -- 67 yesterday. Thirty on the front side and frankly he choked a bit on the back nine I mean let's be honest it has to four foot putts on fifteen and seventeen. That and -- got them you know a share of the lead. And you know the nickname of the burden of the two parties in the playoffs so. You know paddy -- so. You know he was the greatest players choked and absolutely there's no question in my mind -- or -- to -- Kenny Perry. Is one of the best most consistent driver of the golf all in the got in the game of golf. And what happens on seventeen of eighteen when he actually has the -- short rest he puts it. Off the fairway in the trees. The bunker on eighteen and it ended in you know that's. It's if that's not nerves. I don't know what it is not a it's not act not an accident that it had bogeyed -- 22 holes before we get to seventeen with a two shot lead to do to play.
I don't know what the numbers are nationally ID you know in Boston the last hour of them of the masters -- fourteen. I just before sixty minutes and that's a strong rating fourteen probably twenty -- share. Does that mean to you mark that. The masters. Is bigger than Tiger Woods or does it mean that people were still holding out hope that tiger could make some valiant comeback.
That's a good question my thoughts about. I put the more I think the master is bigger than Tiger Woods. It in the big picture. But right now as Tiger Woods -- in his prime. You know Tiger Woods as is the game I mean you know I I I know it just recovering. It's covering events these nine candidates you know it's it's it's like them or got -- you know there's no -- no no anything and so but that is a pretty compelling question and I'm not sure I think it's probably a little bit of both the --
Mark do you think that that it was reasonable to expect that a couple of tournaments into his comeback after knee surgery. That we could expect Tiger Woods to be you know competing for him another green jacket.
Well the thing is -- he he can't ever. He'd be ratcheted up the expectation that winning -- you know what they ill and you know there are those who make the argument. There that they can kill a few weeks ago. Had it not been shut out here you know really Scotland elements while around I would never had the chance. You know to attempt to complete those dramatic -- on the and that's here. On eighteen and you know our policy -- permanent but. You know I don't tigers' senior expected to play well. Probably has it really and even going back -- bay -- Hitting the ball that great and the -- You know he's. With a nine iron and community into an agreement on some occasions and that's crazy you know I don't care how she you know maybe try to get by put the -- of all a tropical book and it's like that. He was missing in these disagree -- twenty arts. You know on number nine yesterday. You know you're -- there are motivated probably was a wickedness and that was stayed right there. And I mean he movable over the right Saturday aggrieved by 1520 yards. So easy he's just not around one of the swing. And and really his body language all week was that have a guy that I did didn't expect was going to win I just didn't see it as much as we we never discount tiger. I just did he he was kind of an agitated little -- exactly teams. He knows he was fighting its -- and you know that's an issue that is Phil Mickelson is you know hitting the ball. Yeah sounds better than tiger -- right -- I'm in all the credit target -- 68 on a -- that Italy's. Scrambled all over the place.
You cover the National Football League the New York Post you cover the biggest stars in the game whether it's Tom Brady or whoever whoever you want to name. Tiger Woods is even bigger is an even -- the biggest star in the NFL.
I'll -- it's he's into the debate started export it anywhere on the planet I mean he really is -- there's just a certain there's an aura about him. -- hope it's not manufactured and it's really you know 90 I -- in that in their best to further that. But. You know if you if you -- being the most recognizable athlete on the planet it's without question tiger what an idiot could respected Jordan's been out of the -- for appears he's superseded George.
Me think about some of the guys who have either been closed at tiger internment or just. Flat out beat them like Cabrera did yesterday. You always look for some carry over for example I remember when. Bob may and tiger. Had a great -- playoff. PGA at 8002000 or 2001 somewhere in there. And I started following Bob may deceive there'll be any momentum and then there wasn't even -- that was a great great match do you think there's going to be any carry over from probably due to Kenny Perry but. Cabrera do you see anybody stepping up and having a nice little season here.
Well if you're asking Yvette Cabrera that those -- we're -- and the -- it's worth that much. Or as much as some of the other guys. And media interestingly Cabrera is only two PGA tour wins have been the masters in the 2007 US open. What do it because of its momentum out of this I hope for Kenny Perry say that it just doesn't break him because frankly. You know he was he was really got it yesterday -- try to keep the brave face signing was very classy in defeat. But this the guy that's you know going to be 49 years old and realize -- member of the major -- thirteen times and to work. -- Keep the -- at -- still such a good player I think you'll be in the mix what are we'll have another chance to to -- it's great to win a major I don't know. You'd like to think that Chad Campbell kicking some sort of comment to make competency played very well it's up -- donated to the classic tough conditions -- let you know at Albert topped off course of the world class field. But I don't you know what we we always wait for somebody just stepped up. It has become cliche now you don't challenge tiger. The only guy that's really out there that's doing that and he's not even if he stole three tiers below tigers citadel instilled in the first got to admit that he is tiger is due. You know still bitter statement you know by the year so now you know he can win. You know two major of the year for the next couple years and then. You know within 1520 more tournaments we wouldn't be where tiger -- in the Indy would be happily -- so. You know I I just. I don't know that there is carried over I think there's a certain confidence -- will vote for guys but I don't know how long that lasts you know may have Bob may have fortunately. I mean it was a bit of flash in the and he also activities had an injury problems and he's trying to battle back from right now but. It's just whenever I at least at this error right now I'm not seeing anybody really stepping up the kind of momentum it's gonna -- tiger. -- What a non factor this week so -- we measure that.
Get a chance when -- following these guys around to get a better sense of at that we do. How deep is the dislike between tiger and --
You know I think that's very overblown I really do affect them. Quite certain out of that I do know feel pretty well at a protest note I don't -- well because. Few of our business are allowed to get that close to the inner inner circle so to speak but. You know I think it's overblown. -- as a as a pretty it was of their rivals any don't want to be part of the question. If you don't think he was charged up like -- Like -- stick it in tigers grill. Yesterday and you know play as well as he did in evidence that most if not say the majority of its -- have more heavily -- tiger. You know of course he has but he has a he has -- reverence for tiger to respect the tiger he's also businessman who realizes. You know how what tiger has brought the game that Obama is lying everybody's pockets you know and there and he's been pretty pretty you know candid about that. Tiger billable California guys it has to be just a walk to get would be there were brought up differently. And but that doesn't mean don't like each other I really don't -- That the case I can tell you what Steve Williams like -- caddie. And he may have idiotic comments about bill which. Edit edit edit. Country prior remember it was was -- of outing in New Zealand and in the wintertime. And that tiger was on the phone the next date it'll pop. So what -- said. And from the Beacon -- it was pretty sincere apology tiger was as we speak to people who were running inside. Tiger was livid at what Williams said and what was you know I heard the Williams's was a little bit. Afraid of insects. To be honest with you because that's that the kind of people to -- and tigers can't don't last very long and -- butch Harmon. -- talent -- you know it's very very tight. Tight wound operation over there with not a lot of people chatting very --
I was gonna say mark speaking of being sacked. -- you're so versatile that we can talk to about football as well. And and let's go back to being sacked Eric Mangini was fired. At the end of the season I think was gonna happen even though that the -- struggled down the stretch we haven't talked you since then. Were you surprised that woody Johnson made such -- abrupt move.
Michael I was very surprised. And as it is that you were. I also thought he thought I thought it was unfounded proved to be fired up -- got a raw deal. I think what happened in that case I think woody Johnson. Usability neo fight on our it in this -- It is very influenced by the fans who were really angry you know that the collapse down the stretch. And I believe he reacted to this stance. I. You know how do you agree that they didn't make the playoffs but they still went nine and seven have to afford -- the year before. Now you know yes they spent some money handsome guys Calvin Pace and it would Ian. And whatnot and it may yet they Brett Favre and the big you know what let's also remember that. That anti it was kind of force that -- when he was on board for a but you know -- that was all about the owner and the general manager. You know might -- wanted to get far in there and you know -- you know readjust on the fly. And bring any quarterback in the middle training camp and you know after the has been an OTA's and mini camps you know with Clemens. I need -- with with Pennington. And so you know there's a lot of factors there I was rather surprised I was also is president had sat down with woody Johnson. At vehicle meeting the previous mark and specifically ask him. About. -- binge eating and atom bomb. Because of the fact they were coming up -- in a it was a -- you gunmen to deliver this year. And when he was waxing poetic about. You know stick keeping stability any mention Steelers and out you know they only had three exposed to sort of they've added New Year's and mention the giants and have solid organization they are. You know so. To me was extremely Dijjer and really they probably they America to dry and I'm glad mr. that are cut landed honesty I think equally culpable in Cleveland beat it and it is to do pretty good job there. Although I was of Ra rack and as well about you know the bottom line was wrecked it and get it done over there and in a few years that he is there so. But yeah I was I was surprised an -- of lovable but there as I do.
All right -- mark do you think that the jets and their new head coach truly believed that the quarterback for the jets is on that roster right now.
Who. I have a hard time believing that. I have --
I well let's put it this way I think that they believe that the starting quarterback Canadian team. Right now because I'm not sure there are any more options what you know -- I don't know that I. Any of these quarterback in the draft. I'm not even you know even Stafford amateur is ready to start right away. So even if they do draft somebody is he going to be -- to be ready ended -- a job. It is in his rookie year that so where in this league -- he has no. And there's just nobody out there and frankly the free agent crop was -- And you know outside of Warner and and and tolerance who were criticized -- with their respective teams anyway we don't do that. And -- is Byron black which the answer you don't get Garcia is going to be forty years old he's gonna bring him and you know I don't think climate has been given a parent has shocked to see what we what he -- do. -- Michael you know bought both because around the use these so I look back to the patriot came up at Foxboro. Where Richard Seymour must be headed Clemens. He was playing quite a ridiculously poor porous offensive line. You know the jets screwed up a year let Kendall so -- you know for -- purposes or for whatever trying to prove -- point would look at their face sitting at a bad offensive line. You know Chad Pennington should have been at a Pro Bowl last year with the performance of Miami. Struggle just as badly as Clemens did find that line and -- seventh also. I'm compelled to see what Clemens to do I'm not saying the answer and the team is high -- outlet although I've only seen analysts you know. Increase seat and that's all we've ever seen an idiot you know a couple of long bombs against Cleveland in the preceding game and everybody -- that he's the second coming -- you know also. You know I'm not I'm not saying he isn't going to be starting quarterback but I think I would give Clemens via -- frankly -- right now I think once it is starter.
I can tell you this marquee and have so much fun covering Rex Ryan guy will say anything he's going to have. No harm had you know two or three memorable press conferences. This guy's gonna have ten. Before before the halfway point.
Michael I I had once within about a month and a half or so ago and -- just he's the real deal -- in terms just regular guy a real person. Does not not that typical paranoid NFL coach it's gonna. It's. I don't think it's gonna change -- Everybody I speak to that knows him well. Says he doesn't change -- I don't see it.
Mark it's always fun to talk with -- but now but I know -- the grey goose nineteen -- correspondent. He went way up on my list.
Also a couple of airline bottle.
Possibly use actual.
Thanks mark it's fun to talk to you again. Our partners here that is Marquette is -- the New York Post and of the golf channel.
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