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I'm from Comcast sports net. -- want it -- 6 o'clock Wednesday they'll give you an audience now. I mean. I'm not surprised in fact we knew there were going to be journalists try to find cuts. We knew the minute set that probably oh lapped up in and out of the streets of Miami in the Dominican. I was surprised that the white. And you know what -- have a sister your brother all right I'll bet you. -- your sister or brother win approached by a journalist a good journalist might tell them things they haven't told. And I got some Brothers it would might sit there with -- but your brother were just given a couple of Brothers who would bear their souls and -- but -- mom my sister were given up. That fourteen game. -- I don't like -- the throat. -- They'll radio simply -- somebody up in Maine is going to lock up to my sister morality it worked and it's you know your brother with -- on the radio just the opposite I would say -- you get. -- And you like and I get it yet let's admit that I've if I was going to share secrets with want to buy. Three Brothers or sister she's hit the secrets about the Brothers and I get many that it keeps not like they would your right but.
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Down tape recorded a word about it. So if you're a Celtics fan. I guess somehow -- you now have some sliver of hope. That Joe Smith is once again available hopes alive after. Via Polk city thunder and the sharp and the -- Orleans Hornets pulled off that well city called off the trade. It's weird sounding deal I mean. Injury you know -- said to me this morning Oklahoma's thirty in and forever I give her thirteen and are forever I mean okay can't play much the rest of the year which apparently is decay.
He's under contract for next year there's an option the year after that he's seven -- he can rebound he can block shots. He's 26 when he seven years old those guys are hard to come by what do you think in Oklahoma City. It is like they were being killed. In the Oklahoma City -- helmet and and a paper out there and gazette times of the press whatever it is New Orleans where the players on the Hornets were. Complain about it -- Oklahoma City guys like patriotic Kevin Durant they traded Joe Smith and Chris Wilcox. They got back Tyson Chandler. Most people in the NBA dot that Oklahoma got the better of the deal I don't agree with that I think it was a great deal for New Orleans team other players were upset about it. You bring it you guys. Two athletic guys 69610611. Who get to play with Chris Paul. And David West -- do little more size up front and Chris Mack he of the deal. And that it was -- money saving. Move but I like. -- New Orleans is happy Oklahoma City I'm not sure would impressed the local boy GM. He's from here I don't know what you think.
Well -- it once again the guy that Celtics fans have at least talked about commenting is available. That Danny really sounds like you know there isn't anything coconut out there he said we've really exhausted all of the things that we had its option season. I know things can get you know reignited you know with a phone call but. Danny doesn't sound like he's very optimistic and anything's gonna get -- of any kind but if -- Celtics -- and well. You know oaks that he wants to trade him you know he's back in old city Arnold cities roster now you've got Sutton that that they like an amateur you do.
Do you play poker dale. Not very well -- don't play poker well that's what Danny's got a little don't play poker very well do not play poker. With Danny Ainge -- mean this guy. Is is very. He's very shrewd he's very smart. When it comes down to deals and not tipping his hand and telling you something telling you one thing in working on something else. Across forces for some people I think he's very good at sports troops and that's what he's supposed to do. Not really tell you it is team's thinking so. I think he even have heard yesterday to. You sound like nothing was going to happen and that was very unlikely there's going to idea which makes me think he's working -- idea.
Hopes I think he is working I don't necessarily hopes -- tell you why I say that Michael because I'm reading quotes from Paul Pierce in the paper today saying we need some. You got one of the Big Three and he's talking about he and Ray Allen get in rundown because not Tony Allen's out of line up at Joe Smith isn't going to help in that right guard. But but you've got one of the Big Three the MVP of the finals last year saying we need some help here. -- they can it than other people in the locker room or think and it and I'm sure Danny hears it and he says man. I gotta go back to the psychological benefit of deals sometimes you almost have to move the team thinks they need to know about JR.
They feel that I I just don't think they feel confident out there after about -- there's no chance. Jeff Jarrett is not going to help them I -- watching him practice in Utah yesterday and said he's got to stay with Utah to play if they had -- opportunity to move to argue it is they do in the second I think the guy. Really it sounds like they need to players. They don't have to roster spots but they mean. They were they need to players they really need one now we we were saying before Tony Allen got -- we're standing here guys 610611 -- out. Who can rebound and played the fence that's everybody is -- for that guy -- Brad Miller was on the move yesterday that's why Joe Smith was on the move initially. Before going back I don't know about Rasheed Wallace but. -- you know you gotta have. For the Celtics. Have the eighties X 566. Swing player. Who can do what Paul -- is talking about backup ray back -- Paul you know that guy is a guy is Raja Bell. I don't see how they can get Raja Bell from the -- I -- I just don't see that worked out for. Now I think about this. I I I always. -- Now lasted you know we talked about this for a lap it the suggestion that guys like Bruce Bowen in Raja Bell. Can guard Kobe Bryant -- on down I mean really permanent yet are you might do well or. You know -- set. What you're -- order if you know I really like at it if Kobe misses shots that you can take credit if you want to put I think it comes down to Kobe missing shots -- you. Really harassing Kobe but with that said. Raja Bell as one of those guys. Who has a reputation. Of playing -- very well he's been physical with Kobe which. Kobe doesn't tell -- doesn't like that much. He can make a three. He knows his role. He's not a guy who's going to be he's -- he's going to be out of control in the -- Tony Allen for example Tony Allen is stronger than Raja Bell going to the basket. But the Raja Bell does a better job of knowing his role with the team. Is not going to try to handle the ball that much and is a better outside shooter and a better defensive player Antonia. Corporal wild card game out there and this is not my original -- is Chris manic seven originally public Jason Kapono.
I mean as far as shooting -- great. Not -- brought that name up for the Celtics that one out.
He's gonna go with Jason Kapono route you definitely here I am again every day is my campaign. Tuesday for my campaign. Has that real with a -- certain number thirteen GP. And they're not Gary Payton. If you're gonna have Jason Kapono you gotta have Eddie House when your team. You really do need to empower Gabe Pruitt because neither of those guys is a ball handler they both are at their best when there's that. And they can -- So he needs somebody who can get them going on the second unit first unit no problem Rondo can set up Eddie House Rondo could set up Jason Kapono. But for that second unit. I don't think Ray Allen could do it I don't think pierce could do a -- with the second unit -- a need a point guard there and that's that's where I gave comes.
Well I I think when when among the best players on your team. Are quoted publicly as saying we need some help. I think that just lights the fire even more under Danny Ainge and and I'm not saying a cosmetic deal which I think sometimes in the NHL is is a good thing. It's hard to do that the NBA would vote the smaller roster in the salary cap cosmetic deals don't really work very well. I think he I think he probably feels more anxious about making a deal now if if the big guns on his own team were saying we need some help.
But it but I don't think anxiety comes in -- is looking at it but but keep in mind. Some teams are looking if you are. And -- succeed or seventh seed and you're looking to trade you're really trading for. What you really need is a star -- To deal with the big dogs the Celtics are among the best. So when you have to trade for a seventh or eighth player the pressure's not that intense.
always talks about we can't make moves here based on the team 200 miles to the south. And and you know you can't make moves based on what you think the Yankees are going to do work -- the Yankees from doing something and I agree with. But if you're the Celtics the team that's two games behind you in the Eastern Conference standings. And sooner or later you're gonna have to beat them if you want to go to the NBA finals again I feel sooner or later it's going to be a Boston Cleveland match up. They're in the market and in the hunt big time today now now they're even more driven I think in the cell.
Does that reverse order. You gotta say from Cleveland's perspective they are later written sooner or later they have to beat Boston Boston has beaten Cleveland Cleveland have to figure out a way to be boss. So.
Well the thing is in and Cleveland is boring and -- 2010 has come LeBron will be a free agent if we don't show him. That you know he can win championships as a member of the Cleveland Cavaliers he's that's -- I mean I think they feel -- Over anxious if there is such are they have to do -- they have to and they are looking at Boston -- we got to figure out a way to beat that team.
well it is on the stoop. If you if you feel that way if you like you have to do something that's it and hit that stupid because they're going to trade -- BX contract in. One might be -- depending on depending on who they bring in Maine you know you'd hear reports that it could be Marcus Camby it could be Antawn Jamison. There was another guy hook it could be corralled look at it Brad Miller supposedly -- and that course one way when I think Brad Miller would help them. Jamison would help them -- Camby. Would be entry I don't know how can he would fit in with the Cavaliers put. Me helps them defensively out. I hope they do something that kind of messes up the chemistry that -- beyond. That. Let's make that trade and I wholeheartedly -- that kind of somebody who doesn't understand their role and want to be in the honors like that. You know kind of -- the second round.
If your -- up Patriots -- When did you get a February Christmas present yesterday. I mean not only is the best player on your football team but some would say the best player in the league. A former league MVP and some would argue one of the best quarterbacks in the history of the game. Not only made a public appearance yesterday but made the most. The most frightened. Statements that I've heard come from him about where he's at physically and how far along in years and how good he's feeling. If Europe if Europe Patriots -- That's about as positive. Of a.
made about an inning and it's the most positive news you can get at this time of year because. The next time you get the seat Tom Brady. Is is mini camp. Then after that it's training camp so. To hear him talk about his condition is that the best you're going to get is not going to be in -- but what the right yesterday. After hearing Tom Brady -- these positive things about so I wonder when he comes back he's going to play with a brace.
I think positively. It's funny because when we talked about this at the time it happened at Boston College Jeff. That his quarterbacks had to wear braces on their front lacks. On you know and you think about that's the -- that's exposed the most wreck when you're in your throwing motion you know. Chances are you're going to take one on the leg you got a better chance of taking it on that leg and the other one. And I think BC native of mandatory rule even as about the problems that they had to wear a brace on that -- I would bet that Brady will wear a brace on not like the rest of his career.
Yeah because they have we've talked about this before. There have been dramatic developments. In in the technology when it comes to making races that aren't so cumbersome and think back. You know ten years ago fifteen years ago quarterback was wearing a brace. It was just that big bulky yeah cumbersome. As overwhelming -- what is that guy walked with that. I think their -- now that give you some flexibility. On on on your neighbor.
Also. Protect you they are and where and when wild -- to have those cheap hits. Like -- have from Bernard Pollard they are wildly expensive because of the new materials that like 121500. Dollars a pop. Because they've got these titanium and god knows what they're made out for what their -- they're strong they do -- those things. And and players who have who have worn them in and purchase used to that -- and Matt Ryan if I remember right. He took what what jag is Hinske was making them it would BC I think he took it to Atlanta with a my thinking was where it.
Yes I am a distraught as you said Adam I can remember him wearing it BCI don't remember. Atlanta but it accurate.
And if you think about it it if it if you're happy the possibility of wearing. A brace that's light and durable and and it doesn't even come -- you said the technology has changed so dramatically. What would be the reason to not wear it. Why wouldn't and I used to I mean an end in and it Tom what if -- if I'm Matt Cassel. I can almost make an argument that you know he's pretty mobile guy you know he runs pretty well what's gonna slow me down I can't do the things I do. Tom Brady's pock a classic pocket passer you know his running sir our quarterback sneaks for for a yard when you need happy yard between the tackles and.
You know and that that's one thought yesterday you know -- Tom Brady where breaks and I agree. Most certainly probably well definitely and it doesn't want to do it they'll probably try to talk about it and made -- his tour and the other thing is dale. When something happens one win. An injury like this happens to a quarterback there are few things -- number one. The player has to get over. Thinking about the knee at all times yet to give back to playing football and and not worry about an injury I don't think any football player goes out there. And played a plate says what do I get hurt that's how would have somebody. In front but it GP at now do you know. It's gone by the game your instinctive. And and you just thinking about. Do what you do doing what you've done since you're seven or eight years old. So that's one thing for from Tom Brady's perspective from the Patriots perspective. You said yourself there Bill Belichick on one hand. Sure as a running back. Who was blocking. Sammy Morris in this case. It was one of those -- plays. Could that happen again. It could happen again but probably not a fluke thing was don't agree that do we have to do anything personnel wise to -- that not necessarily -- With that in mind if they're looking at a running back I'm sure they're looking at running backs who were great blitz pick up. And this week at the -- time. I wouldn't be surprised if they are looking very hard at offensive line. We we we think that second round pick those that couples at around six. They may have more depending on what happens but Matt Cassel. We think those second round picks going to go to linebackers quarterbacks yeah.
When's the last time. You know Logan Mankins was laughed and if they took and and offered to linemen in the first round yeah. The last time it took -- the linemen in the second round I believe was Matt Light.
So.
I think they'll be looking for. They might be -- a in a market for backs and linemen.
I I I thought Tom Curran made a good point yesterday and it was on the big show -- you know obviously we don't know diskette. But it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility infected might be likely that the Patriots opened the season with the Jets. And he said you think Ryan isn't going to throw every blitz known to man it Tom Brady if they're playing in the first game of the season. Not to try to injure Tom Brady just to see -- Mobley -- and we get back to your thought about protections and and you know blitz pick up sin and and offensive lineman. It you know if if it does work out that they opened the season against the Jets which I wouldn't be a bit surprised. -- going to throw everything he can throw.
Very well and and he may regret it. -- he's pretty good at that -- up if they regretted MM short. Tom Brady's going to take awhile. To get into a group the football a year yeah. At that point in his last game will be September of 2008. The September 2008 that September 2009. I already know count out. Played yet five minutes exactly. And it didn't play that let the other won't let up much in every season. So yeah it is going to be interesting to see with the Patriots do and no Dellums going to throw this out there I don't believe. That the Patriots have.
I think they have the money. For this guy. -- just sitting here thinking okay yesterday. The news come across that Albert Haynes worth that's going to be pre. Albert -- where former Tennessee Titans. Who used to be with Tennessee -- race. Now what the Patriots. What does Bill Belichick loved defensive tackles and they got plenty deep tackles there and you could say where the hell do you play Albert Haynes worth when you have. Ty Warren and Richard Seymour. And in Vince Wilfork and in. Jarvis Green coming on and on. But as Albert Hayward. I don't know it doesn't seem likely. But it -- Thomas didn't seem likely yeah.
Now you're right I'm I'm just whenever I hate when every you know they've figured them out they go -- direct I'll be curious to see where Albert games where it goes but I think the Patriots are probably it. -- That's just my.
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