Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk

Mike Florio from pro football -- Dot John -- has good morning Mike I don't. I don't pick renteria. The right thanks Mike joining us on the eighteenth the hotline AT&T your world delivered. Mike you know we can't start a discussion about football the -- without the proverbial. Wears Matt Cassel going to be traded questions -- thoughts.

I'm still -- perpetrated anywhere I still believe that there's a chance that the Patriots do. -- three to a four year deal with in the paced him extremely well doesn't take him quote unquote market value that puts them at a position. To essentially beat Ron Amadon Tom Brady's Joe Montana whatever Brady calls it quits and I know Brady still potentially got several years left. That this would be nice bridge for the franchise. And -- potentially get some playing time this year he's good insurance policy. And I think he'd be understated net just based upon -- factor -- he USA. And he was on the bench behind got a parse apart -- transferred he was happy to meet with a strong team. So I don't rule out the possibility of Cassel doing a deal -- sticking around as the backup band future starter.

I'm I'm read what you have right here online -- still think the Lions are really lean -- towards Daunte Culpepper. I mean what's he do to two and a half million dollar bonus next month.

He gets you have to learn dollar roster bonus due to an athlete dollar salary that you're the reality is that going to draft a quarterback in the first round with the first overall pick. You can't just assume that decked out going to be ready to start day one out of Falcons and the Ravens got lucky last year Matt Bryant won the job outright. Joe Flacco fell into what went Troy Smith got sick with -- slightest evolve things in August. And he ended up being located at W -- question marks the offensive line the last thing you want to do. Is put a rookie quarterback out there on the field potentially -- and so they need to guy to beat a starter for 2009. At least to get things rolling. And Culpepper makes the most sense and even though. He wasn't great last year he's reunited with Scott Linehan it was his offensive coordinator when he had his best year in Minnesota one of the best quarterback years ever. Overshadowed that he's about Peyton and it it's still a stellar season. So he has not pull off season he's healthy. Maybe Culpepper could could be the answer at least in the short term and and they get a guy like Matt Stafford Mark Sanchez ready to get.

On the back studies and about tells you really think he'd be satisfied -- that role just to sit back and relax behind Brady for another year after. Arguably having a Pro Bowl season.

Potentially because look at it this way -- Tom Brady was in a position to press the issue and get quote unquote market value. Did he or did he realize that maybe a lot of his success -- something to do with where he was. And who's around the and maybe Matt Cassel realized you know what if I go to another team. All those underneath routes are going to be wide open because they. They don't have a Randy Moss it's going to -- two guys deep bond every snap so if Cassel takes a broader view the situation. And if he doesn't want to risk becoming the next Scott Mitchell Rob Johnson guys in the ninety's to parlay one year starting. In two good contract and then. Mediocrity beyond that I think cast took -- say you know I've got a better chance haven't a very good career if I stay put here in New England.

You look at what the giant to donate they tagged Brandon Jacobs with the franchise tag. That gives them something short up for them offensively but what are they going to do any -- they have the belief. That the young guys going to step up and replaced Plaxico -- or do they need plaques. Or a guy like plaques to construct of -- what you mentioned Randy Moss. There's going to be some problems here with what's shaken down with Plaxico -- in court but what are the gonna what -- the Giants gonna do regarding his situation.

We -- Giants developed a certain degree of error against regarding the notion that. They don't need anyone to acquire if you don't want to be your final -- final without you end. With Boris they applied that same mind set but then they realized after they got into some tough for games that. These guys draw two defenders everywhere it goes -- essentially given the other team an extra player on defense because none of the other receivers. Get that kind of attached so I think the Giants would like to try to find a way. To work -- outbursts I don't think they can't. I think now they're trying to pretend they want him to drive up trade value just like it did last year were Jeremy Shockey at tight and it worked to perfection. They really separate the Saints at the trading table -- shock yet to pick and try to do the same thing with -- the and the question becomes who's out there that they can try to bring yen. Who would provide that same presence on off that so maybe it's Anquan Bolden. Maybe it's someone else maybe get lucky in the draft -- find a rookie and comment and do it but those guys. Yet it 88 rarely comment in the NFL right away ready to -- that kind of attached but that's what they need any guy can stretch the field and type two defenders. And I just don't think at the end of the day it's going to be president too much has happened between that team. And that player for the two co exist.

Where do you start besides the cap situation with a New England offseason shopping list where they --

While. It out it's not a team that has all a lot of a whole lot of holes you know the receiver position which was a liability for a long time distraught. -- see is stronger running game -- Laurence Maroney has not been very reliably been injured a lot that shoulder -- last year we just kind of bizarre it didn't seem like kind of injury. That should shut it down for the whole season. Is going to be some guys out there be very interesting to see if they'd be ditched it for example a guy like Cedric Benson. Who washed out at Chicago debate came back. Cincinnati late in the year it was just stellar down the stretch so there may be something they can do by way of running back to bring somebody in to help. Move the -- more consistently open up the passing game. That would be one area -- The secondary really has always been one of those areas where. It like this he would be a little bit better. But there there aren't a whole lot of big names that are going to be available at their -- Robinson -- as a quarterback to a lot of people think. If you make it to the market the detection dog he's a franchise tag by Thursday. He's guided to get a lot of interest -- you know yet a horrific injury 2007 recover from a came back to played last year. Topic is still question -- with him. But you know I -- the Patriots typically came to resist that big spending spree early in free agency was so much money tied up in castle. I think they're probably going to shy away from it for now. I think we'll see more of a selective picking off of guys after the market's soft and after a week yourself in the free agents.

pro football dot dot com here at meters so Bill Parcells he's free to walk away from the dolphins' job to cash in on twelve million bucks. He said he's content there how longest -- last in Miami and do you see him ever reuniting with son in -- mountain Kansas City.

Well I think it's a year to year proposition right now and and my guess is an older one more year and depending upon how the Dolphins finished then -- walk away. There's other dynamics at play here though as well. Parcells has to catch is you know. -- Israel and one day. And he could say that's it I'm out of here -- part of all of this is the owner Stephen Ross because how long can he tolerate. This notion that I have to walk on eggshells around Bill Parcells he's going to walk away -- take all of his money and and put in a position where I'm. I'm not strapped to the top the organization I gotta pay Parcells like I go out on somebody else. To run the show so I think it's year to year but there's always a chance -- can happen I don't really ever reunite -- Scott pioli I think what happens is. If Parcells. I decisions they went Parcells leaves Miami he's gonna look that next about the -- and any don't want to turn around another team. As quickly as he did. The Miami Dolphins the challenge next time around though is. If he -- the Cowboys. For -- those guys he brought the Miami I don't know he's going to be Hillary the Dolphins in -- all those guys. To wherever he ends up next.

Out of all the offseason coaching changes at the reluctance in Utah which is the most intriguing one to you and what type of impact will Rex Ryan have. With the Jets that Mangini didn't have.

Well that's the most intriguing one right there because I'm not sure. That things are going to be any better for the New York Jets he can make you are your Rex Ryan should have been ahead took several years ago but he's been hampered by. Bad association with buddy Ryan who was just erratic and brash and loud and punched Kevin -- brought in the base. And you know that the kind of -- ball far from the -- saying that I think might have affected -- right. But that team this is not set up to be successful they essentially traded Brett Favre for Chad Pennington. And now they have neither guy. They are big question marks about the quarterback position. They still have invested all that money and guys that were brought in for a team that was ready to win now they're back to square one of the most important position on the field. And and I have a feeling 2009 going to be along year for the Jets. And I give them maybe two more years before Mike atom bomb the GM's out the door mean they're really going to have to turn it around. Quickly relatively quickly especially when you look at how teams like the Ravens Falcons Dolphins Cardinals were able to turn it around pretty quickly. Other owners are going to be far less patient going forward and I just see this Jets thing pick up very slow motion train wreck and I sure you know Patriots fans are. Upset -- here that. The Jets are going to continue to disintegrate.

What's going on a Dallas latest thing you hear another you know obviously they release Pacman. The whole TO saga the head coach the owner of the new stadium opened an -- they can get things turned around resisted train wreck you know and it's just ready to veering off the tracks there.

Yeah I mean this this is another one bit that I think isn't going anywhere good I think the core of this -- Jerry Jones the owner of the team is feeling the pinch financially. Unless he was stuffing his money in his mattress or buried in the backyard. He lost a lot of money last year he had to have lost a lot of money last year with the stock market downturn now he can't sell the naming rights to the new stadium it's like a one point one billion dollar project. That he got a lot of his money tied into he had trouble getting further. Credit last year that they needed to get distinct edition and I I think one of the reasons why didn't just clean house in the coaching staff if you want paid -- to Wade Phillips. And Jason Garrett both -- we're making more three million dollars a year. Now you get asked himself drug bite the bullet on Terrell Owens there's been talk maybe the trade to the Raiders I think that would be away for Jones to -- But get this thing amassed and it hasn't bottomed out yet I think it's got to bottom out. Jerry Jones has to acknowledge it bottomed out. The sports going to get any better.

Without via management haven't TO and Al Davis in Oakland. TO says he wants to win that's right that's just the -- forum.

I don't know what to ever win like. You have created a year.

I hope that happens just from a drama perspective a more -- lance gets busted the image problem continues for the NFL players and guns -- our talk about the out double to badge of -- now Mike. To get busted felony gun possession. And Buffalo has now admitted that he was are tested and has retained an attorney where does it go from here for him.

Why -- are some questions about this whole thing the lawyer involved it is said that the gun was in the trunk and Atlanta just want the guys in the part. Notes that help a lot like. This stuff that we heard after being hit run last year involving wage in Buffalo where there was a lot of ambiguity. And Litsch had the you know I don't know any thing and it finally all in all. -- bit alleged hit nearly didn't at a time it's probably could've gotten into. And I think it's going to take one of these guys going to jail. For weapons charges before the problem gets any better can't understand why they're carrying guns there -- paraded their targets for violence. But. Carrying a gun doesn't make a bad situation any better. And and like it set one -- going to have to go to jail before the message gets out to these players he'd he'd come up with a better solution. Then just picking up a pistol stick it in the waist -- sweat pants if you're gonna go out somewhere where you think you might get shot by someone else.

That would seem to be illogical conclusion.

Well an open logic doesn't always a lot of guys that are there was quite frankly I mean I'd try to remember the days when I was -- agent if I had a ton of money. And there -- worse you know stories of guys like Sean Taylor -- shot killed in his home and guys like gap and there's this Steve Smith not from the Panthers want the Giants get held up at gunpoint to. And it just this general notion that there's a lot of and a lot of you know hatred for the guys just because they have money in their targets and they can be. You know they can be rock and -- Georgia be taken -- and it's usually pretty expensive stuff. Some of them have on them when they're out. I guess it would be -- they haven't delegates feel like indeed you need the protection even though if somebody really out to dig out -- that haven't done your pockets going to say get. But it did and that comfort level. That they need to go out in the state because an early twenty like to --

Just -- Marvin Harrison --

That's right media actually -- got to think he used his diet and you know apparently nothing is ever going to have.

What is that story Jones didn't know anything about them.

I think what's going to happen there -- the prosecutor in Philadelphia and think there was enough evidence to get that conviction -- criminal conviction. It's based upon proof beyond a reasonable doubt there was nothing consistency in the witness account that they don't feel comfortable yet court for the there's a civil lawsuit against terrorists -- and I think the hope is that is civil lawsuit on both the prosecutors have come away from it was better evidence they can use to charge Hairston. That's why it happened same as for months now -- just need to settle that civil suit. Because nothing good is gonna come from that by way of evidence they can then be used against him. In the much more serious. Prosecution that would you know potentially put them on --

Bizarre guy I'm Mike.

Oh yeah -- up and and they -- weird mixture of personality -- he's at least one -- rare wide receivers who wants no attention. Doesn't want to talk to the media very reclusive. But then you hear these stories just that the kind of stuff that he allegedly doesn't Philadelphia and it just it's it's this guy. Is a very weird and unusual individual. And I still don't rule out prosecution at some point down the road.

It's amazing you know in the it's cat -- himself in the locker reading Peyton says out of I don't know anything about the guy don't know anything about it.

Sit by itself on the bench away from everyone else and yeah maybe its good he kept such a low profile people what are these things about. You know alleged activities and Philadelphia's sooner but. And I don't Hall of Fame career just get back to debate that I constantly engage with guys who -- all think it I think your character and I think you do off the field should matter. It doesn't which means when -- take my kid in all of payment point to bust like OJ Simpson I have to say don't you know don't pay attention to that got. Maybe they'll be a few more guys like -- Campbell sports also had done.

hey Mike last went for you A-Rod obviously hot topic appear Boston. Because of the Yankees Red Sox but -- a lot of names. You know they're supposed to come out on this list and we talk about H TH the difference we've had this argument between football. In baseball obviously different sports the wise guys like Shawne Merriman. Rodney Harrison comes back standing ovation the next day. Larry Izzo it's just a blip on the radar but he's testifying in the bonds case because his connection. That to Greg Anderson. Your take on what's going on this force HGH use in pro football compared to baseball and why is it deemed except acceptable in football not baseball.

a lot of guys using a huge because they still don't have a test -- that they are using to catch and when you know the a mortgage based upon a million dollar house -- And you get family members rely upon you continue to -- NFL's salary you're -- out there NH you get Ahold off that that rookie that they just drafted. You're going to do every you have to do to maintain analyzed I get too much pressure on you want to compete you assume everybody else to add to southern a lot of guys that you NH GH. Georgia hit attack the Redskins. Throughout some percentage some high percentage. And then kind of took it back a couple of years ago but that was already out of the back I think a lot of guys -- and it. And the only time to get caught it just you know there's you ordered over the Internet use your credit card like Rodney Harrison -- I think the difference in baseball football is in baseball he -- that obsession. Over the records should get the purest. You know it it really is at its core one on one sport. Pitcher versus batter with a budget bystanders. In football it's bad team effort they're all cute we all assume their wants -- to -- that huge it'd take that sound like. And collectively. We just don't really care and and I don't know what it's going to panic I think every player to come out admit that they're using performance enhancing drugs it's football we don't just kinda. Rockets say well at least you know there's really nobody was an unfair advantage if there are using.

What if you were to guess what with the percentage -- to you choose. In the NFL.

I don't know I think. At one point or another I'd say fifty to 60% not a reason all the time I think they use -- when they had injuries they're trying to recover from and and double take it has --

That seem that hard to believe and it really doesn't believe anything anymore. Now my great great stop to bring out some good points we appreciate it.