Dr. Jean Rhodes, UMass Professor

Austin is considered the nation's leading expert on youth mentoring. As she is co written a book. About Manny Ramirez called becoming -- -- joins us on the eighteenth the hotline eighteen T. You were world delivered good morning professor Rhodes how argue. I but they I don't -- introduction but we determined that UN shot or at least on the east coast Manny island college wide as a professor of psychology at University of Massachusetts. Get a ball with a Manny Ramirez walked just of the jumping off point -- Well because many of interest in -- And I think want to say that the puck is in no way any defensive end up the title of not defending -- it's becoming. And it's attempt -- and understand why he doesn't it's not in pursuit of a man about -- not. Having children -- It trying to figure out why did they. And ethnic presented and perspective on this thing but Akron better than the other perspective and in an enemy of -- -- it's not a free pass anyway. Did you ask anybody other than Manny or Manny his wife about the Jack McCormick incidents and that anybody agent. And his agent. Did anybody give -- great -- story other than Jack does respected Manny for many years on many occasions was rude and insulting to Matty in front of other players. Many people about -- but the really not about that'd. Just one little piece of it Mike Timlin said. That would become the book and it's not at all with anything I -- and my colleague from -- read it's we got that many perspectives that ethnic. But it -- not include that perspective -- -- something well. And you've got confirmation from my number of people or at least one or two other people that Jack McCormick was a mean got a Manny and in this particular instance I know you under you're you're saying -- just a small portion of the ball Manny was the victim here with Jack McCormick. Well now and -- saying that he was the victim or -- -- don't. Look at all but the outcome. Where it only present that I would like you. We -- and the -- There now look at everything about it and it's way more. I you know all the whining that your thing but there's so much more. Do you do you talk to his high school coach guy who. Look at a it's high -- what it is bad -- I would. He is high school coach who tells us is -- many -- that he doesn't. Ever go back and talk to the -- he he reneged on his promise. To buy them bats and balls and and and and visit them and talk to them and donate money to them he has never done that according to a high school coach is that in the book. That'd been about -- and only everything else an opposite. -- as a college as an investigative report to figure out why why he has given you got -- it's really not about all warm and it will be that it about I understand of the best hitters right handed hitters. In -- why does the things he doesn't doesn't the other thing I doubt if you have the charity. -- did he just doesn't. Make a big deal. You have I don't understand and need to understand. It all right try to. It. Right Sosa like in spring training and all the other players go on -- -- of the kids from the Jimmy Fund clinic every year and seven times he's been asked to do that seven times he has not on the time. Or the desire to go on sale all the kids know 510 minutes. The east focusing on hitting at that point -- in February. -- -- -- Right and a jury. Only sensible is a better word do I live and they are smarter person and night out I don't know. -- understand why I mean -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Well I well I bet all of I don't want to get one line answer about that when. You really need to understand what it's like and what. I have never. And that act and but I think that there's more for example. The reason and it. And you know -- the question is. That keep it between the net were it -- And a portion of -- are going. And and that's what you. And he did to lot that your. His sister liked ought to be -- never want to make and -- -- about. I'm not. Lots of guys don't make public -- that do for charity -- most of them don't know what what's what fine what what. What's his reasoning what is and is that the kids and Jimmy Fund. Okay I went -- right. So Ortiz is not focused this is you know Youkilis Pedroia. -- everybody everybody on the team does that goes out and you won't first of all that's about to crap professor at the middle of February -- 2730 kids some much terminally ill want to meet the guy and he says. Don't bother me. I'm focused. Are. Stupid and it if it back to help shy and I know I sound like that and it. It's a -- and -- -- but there is much more than just him. In -- clubhouse guy over and I'm not going to -- And I wish we could talk about -- So I'll tell us is reasoning for not going and visiting the wounded troops at Walter Reed his old team went. And and it was and asking a lot to get on a chartered jet to fly out for an afternoon. Say a lot of the troops cheer them up they'd like the Jimmy Fund kids really wanted to see Manny I mean they got to see the whole team but the one guy. They really want to see was made your -- he was back in Fort Myers. Right. You know -- -- do that but there's more. -- little more than the focused enemy we have time your doctor. There are so. You know from the day -- guys in there. And everything around in the crowd -- it by -- reporter everything. -- To make it kept my focus on what is. At all about it is that good or bad. -- So many claims he shot many claims he's focused do you worry at all that that when you write this book you were in a bully a guy who just doesn't give. A rat's ass about anybody but what he's doing at that particular time including the troops and including the soldiers and including the baseball team from his hometown that he promised a lot of things to and never delivered. Right. I guess you could say it's been able but I don't think it's lane at a point. It's not it -- we have. Or and it. One of -- and then when it agreed to hear what it was very light. All about being helped understand them better or -- we make it. We may not -- I didn't and as a like it is one of more people whatever I. -- -- did you figure out or do you. Can you explain why. He left town on the way he did I mean you point out that the you know the management the Red Sox shares the blame but. I would say most of the blame would go on many of the way laid down a quit on this team to force his way out of town because he didn't want to be stuck here under. Why a one year contract. Do you have a problem with the way he left Boston professor. And I think anybody. Else have played. -- -- by by the bulk of what it over. It. Over the period which many felt very comfortable in April was there when it's friend where ran it -- -- you're. He never quite fit in. And it got worse and he felt less comfortable as time went on and -- that event now but that's what. And so -- the end. Who knows exactly how wasted. He ditty about its contract situation I think it was a oh wait I'm older. And I think that that actual. Made in it that we didn't. I'm feeling comfortable. Yeah maybe not but his agent was telling him and how it would be subject to. But he won the. So that he was last -- because they had moved -- walls and and rearrange the club house quite to his liking he was last comparable because of the 37000. Fans who gave him un bridled adoration every single night the -- offense too willing to give him tongue baths on the streets as they said hey Manny we love you Manny I mean. Without respect doctor Rose this sounds like an enabling mean you said would talk about his immigration and this child that I take something. If -- were brought up in -- the pretzels basement in Austria in my estimation that doesn't excuse him from going down and saying hello to the cancer patients in spring training. Out of season I don't care pretzel was his father. -- -- -- I'm trying to tell you what covered in the -- We went about how much. Access to the nanny and how many how much of this is in many words. They have at. It. At that. -- -- -- That let's say he's -- bad guy do you have. I mean I know what it like shades of gray in new. Is that but -- -- bad that haven't. We -- in an agreement that. Induction mystic. How much much access did you have to Manny and how much did Manny. With his own words contribute to this book. We went in south Florida is and it apart. Austin we talked to many but that we talked to his mother there. Every single coach and general manager and step for the red. By the time we got. Managers. And at the -- like it was too -- there. But we -- in any mini me. We talked to mark should Cairo. -- many people for -- but it's or you're. Okay and I'm -- and it would Manny says he got up every morning as a kid and ran hills with a tire around his waist with whom did you confirm that story and when Manning sisters says he gives a lot of money to charity just nobody knows about it with whom did you confirm these stories or is it written many claims he did this and many sister claims he did that. It's written. About the story about the tire we did not dip from. -- that bad of a story it's been in the paper that early 1991. Noticing and do that while he was -- our driver of the year. Write about real. It's not just something in. And we have eyewitness. Talk to cap accurately watched him run and can you imagine. It would. Talk -- Cameron from the Children's Hospital. The kid we talked to this morning. We can look up with them if you want to do like. -- blogs sequel an epilogue. You're right that's about you know. Much I mean I just think it's at some point maybe. As a psychologist you can never do this but I think some point you say just the bad guy I mean he's just the self absorbed guy. And narcissistic guys doesn't care about other people -- -- -- -- kids -- clubhouse attendants. And I talk about it for -- Part. That definitely. Level. -- -- or option that -- not point is if they. -- you. Maybe I would any yet but -- -- you know out there in the world helping. They -- it would it is. Not that I'm not that that would not hate to pick a sport that a lot though that the and there. Is not on -- if not I think it. Also was supposed to sidetrack -- you didn't complain you get great pulled the inside track in the Boston Herald. Presents that is kind of made and he says the story and the focus focus Jack McCormick thing and -- and they present two sides of -- these then. -- two versions -- not those Juliana Ramirez loses both of which are absolute. Crap. Well okay I don't feel bad. You know I eat out of that situation but it did not want to -- What do you believe Jack McCormick disrespect the -- -- -- the man. This is coming from me. Guys that character and why didn't act the -- it what on earth with. Now Atlanta and answers to -- quite a ride. That's what is but it it it's not saying he's you know -- perfectly justified is -- It say why the man -- and the final chapter of the book is really. And then now -- guy when I was. Great idea I missed an -- you -- a great job sell office really I think it's going to be. It around here in them you know probably in LA and let them themselves just as the man you know let. When you present -- those and Julian and is -- which. What their lies -- their absolute lies and I guess you put them -- you adamant quotes to understand that it's it's a. -- at the -- and by the way you know that that that that -- Yeah I think that was my. Let's quotes like Clinton's problem. -- She's she's here she is possible -- she -- there. What was going I think not put that in. Now I'm sure footing and went quotes and I don't skepticism and explained that 24 other Major League Baseball players that get this cancer out of right. I get this. Rumor that get malignancy. All of our clubhouse. I. Didn't know. I would in the -- In the weeks following I talked to my law I they. Are going on is. You know get our act of two minds. These two girls are. At least two with a more in the meeting with -- and and you know you're not please get him off of this team. As a hit yeah. It's not mean you -- in. There. I was talking about in the. Not let me point out that if he stayed here he may have had a tunnel named after him and he would certainly be -- legend may be his number retired. He would have let -- tell us that's not that's really not relevant Ted Williams would not have a -- -- that term if he -- a war hero. Out of it but if you continue to read you know we want to treat. I. I. The trees hit the weather -- hated it at work and rip. One out and from it and your bosses hated him right. That would. Really sets him apart from man Manny was never hate right handers Matt worship lord and he was a dog -- -- on the field the number of times we -- aren't he didn't run out ground balls ET until -- to a game this until they've got injured got worshipped. And interrupted -- out its -- and yet but right that the act like it a lot. And that's what about the -- you. And really have to make. It. That's -- in the pocket and -- but it album now. And I think. You know even amount yet. -- more balance in. You about the do you think is balance and everybody puts in Iowa compared to Alex and serial killer but. How bad did Bernie Madoff would you say he's a curious. -- into for a guy would you just say is that evil son of a bitch. Never done anything that -- not. You know there's a lot about these it'd alter the truck with the law who aren't -- with -- were they -- the many infractions on minors like. He talked to Manny about steroids. You addressed this in the book is take on steroids. I addressed that numbers are the and at what they've and. -- says he never did it. -- All right doctor well good luck with a book we appreciate you coming on -- -- answering our questions I can't wait to the last after that becomes the conclusion that he's out of his mind. All right I think you gonna do well with the -- is golf becoming Manny doctor gene Rhodes was our -- thank you doctor roads are roses joining us on the AT&T hotline AT&T you're world delivered.