Kerry Byrne, WEEI.com

It's our number two Dennis and Callahan our final program before a Super Bowl forty countries in Tampa it's impossible could be bull that Bears and steals and no there are different conferences. It's just not. Possible it's like being in you know yeah Red Sox and Mets fan if if you can't be if mr. -- a ton of money to your campaign and Franco Harris campaigns tirelessly in Pennsylvania for you -- you can be both that's fine and he that it -- that was loyalty can be bought the -- surprise you know -- arrogant. Never -- doesn't tell him by now you've heard all the stories all the rehab Reagor mutated. You know there's no and Whisenhunt used to coach for the I had Bernard. The original. --

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He's huge Yankees and Cubs -- yeah yeah yeah she was for markets -- start out first all before -- get into the yeah meat and potatoes -- we will this football game at some of the odds. Things that you talked about it on -- fascinating. Right off the bat you are debunking. The cliche that most people say but he did he steal happily and they've got the better deepens. That a establishing the run. Is not necessarily the way to go and a suitable.

Well you know this kind of went Mike my pet projects that are -- what establishing a running so ingrained in. Obama apologist but I kids play you'd spoke up with the approach you've got to establish the -- you -- establish the run and what -- buying in a united I believe that -- we've got -- that -- that cork -- study the -- and if find out that you know what it really. Doesn't matter too much what really matters is passing the ball effectively. To use that at some are better. We didn't win win law enemy team that have -- that we look at. Aspect of that it got merchant caveat you ever what you. -- Despite all the great teams had a great ever pretend even in the great running teams that in 1972 Dolphins one of the most effective passing team that is undefeated Dolphins. Any defining game epic -- to -- well. Due to pass well -- get any look at simple bolt achieve what I hit average per attempt. There's what 36 the 42 simple.

So -- while trying to deal the heartbreak of now understanding that establishing the run doesn't help my team whatever that team happens to be when the Super Bowl. The next thing you're gonna tell me is the defense doesn't win championships.

Act act -- well you know if it it would look at the plate you do it it -- like to think it definitely don't want it doesn't. Want to than ever about recently got that kind of this kid to the playoffs start and out of it and how to beat statue of incumbent through into the play out there and I don't know I think -- a lot of reasons are there will. What what you find is that we have been acting as of now what do the quote. You know it's called. You know their -- point where it went over the -- all your guilt for the Giants gave up 351 points. Second worst. But with the ball Arizona get up -- 126 point this year. They would be good if not only that that would that ever reach it all the put it into words he's sent there to win it simple all I needed it. That's about the -- to react to what you guys think but opt. It just it just just be that he can't even if I didn't point out into the played well defensively in the playoffs but. I that is for the overall kind of situation where the regular people it's not. As important to used to being and we know that because we have an item seventeen with a simple all we've had some you know kind of mediocre teams make runs into the into the in this simple ball in recent years and defense certainly at least the regular it is not indicators used to be now we have the worst defenses yet you don't.

Like it's like the NCAA final four get the NCAA tournament you can lose and and so -- in November. And get hot and in March in all and in what that what you didn't early season -- matters not.

I don't know why did that got a lot of contradict it up and honest it's just Appleby. It deputy conference chipped chipped and been part of -- as that of the playoffs so what kind of rewarding bad teams. And in you know punishing thirteen and hit it W have a twelve unfortunately. For the road taken me eighteen India in the player. I Arizona guide by the evidence to quote the nice front but -- got to a playoff game -- better -- give a better record. In a court you know let it didn't sit you know go to the play up -- five team got a better record within.

Yeah that's -- simple flaw to you'd just put the let the team with the better record.

I don't -- it absolutely everybody happily -- you know what I think. I came up on radio show over the country about the note that I get from ought to -- my my -- the talent in the beautiful accent but. They say okay you know that the New England thing and -- the Patriots absolutely yes. And I think if if if figured it -- mostly back that of them felt the feed them and operating without. You're right it right now you know people would be like we're -- utley and decided seventeenth why what the Patriots in the playoff second. The current class structure as it got outlawed in front part of the Chileans yet given the with a better record on game that the simple solution but. Basically these -- fourteen division what -- create a situation where it don't have to be good to make the playoffs you'd have to be better than the other team. Ineptitude -- very good you know what is it going to -- seven in nineteen both playoff.

It you know -- read your stuff as we -- do but here's what you have to do you have to do more media criticism yet let's face it. You know people like and cold during and birdie -- board to make a Livan out of it -- and pull media criticism on the political side of things. As I sit there and I think you want to watch these. Experts you know not just Emmitt Smith whose brain dead but so many of the money FL network and they say they spew these cliches about. As that was the run and stop the rot on the big -- with championships and it's one cliche. After another with no statistical basis at all I've been with you in one regard for years. As say in the you know you don't have to establish the run practice that was the past I mean you win with passing. Good passing quarterbacks win that's how you win games it's they would championships but. You should do more of that and things like taking you know conventional wisdom and flip -- and on its head. Is great and I joy -- what you have to you know come up with some some villains here at some.

Are you always knew that he get -- Bible villains around back that day and actually -- Dallas without the side we -- it was that cold hard football that we had a set apiece in detention we have. Where you know people or you know that septic in purgatory our you know just that residents that.

Who's the most ignorant that off the Tapia whose.

I don't think I gotta make it we don't do it about much anymore -- guys CBS sportsline. You got to --

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We haven't done stuff like that a couple of years directly you know what you had to put -- on the map is doing that stuff because people like oh my god -- reported he's right at you on that we are what are quote. On -- or not they don't know they're talking about it independent. You know baseball that Barry. Baseball analysis of that is a very mature marketplace that. If that's been around forever you know you. The stat in 1900 are really no different in the -- today you can hear every player that only three real -- it is adding that it's bad buildings that. Everybody understands that -- really get an at -- would it still has budget people love the sport is still very immature.

And what do you the ones that matter most which I find as they use. A deep offensive passer rating that the passer rating of the that the pass against against your defense. Use that a lot how does that. -- does that stack up in.

You into into the example that stat that we use it doesn't have they been looking Garrett saw that you ranked second. -- I 150 yards passing game well that the that they could get that the is that against the run and noticed at being felt. Doubt guys are almost totally irrelevant to that I want to it is very clearly out -- almost totally irrelevant. -- They mean not. You gotta look at -- efficiency numbers and a passer rating on our president great stat that really I correlation between a fascinating and it's fast. Look at the corner of the highest passer rating the best quarterback they've played the best team they want. So we get open around and look at the teams he and -- when you aren't that great team throughout history. Had great defensive effort -- the curtain got the 1970s. A guy like this to about eight united but the benefit -- I want that stood in in many ways but. Yeah -- of the 1970s. They were not very good against the run they -- average sum up above average in -- the right. You could not at the Falcons have -- defensive effort to compete with that thirty and forty. He could not move the ball in the -- that and that's what they were great sense you know if somebody active defensively. Has the best defensive test event in history. So what that felt that kind of what I looked at what the great team is good at. Yeah I had weren't necessarily important that their efficiency into an area in the capacity to perfect perfect example. You you find out you know who get -- don't get -- better at getting out of who's actually good at.

So carried this is essentially your defensive hog index were talking about here.

That's different out of the pocket that this has got. What we don't hit at a rate the front seven be Steven Wright in it people talk what other team had a great defensive line right what is he not a great up and the like what they measured by guys. They don't you know they just started you know do BI just don't look at it we could put together and got that kind of formulated by the good at -- that if we. -- of these areas in the department I think that is great because. It's nineteen into the playoffs when it over the last two years is that.

That's almost as good spread -- Lang yeah.

What about -- we -- if we had yet -- title game run if if it vehicle with better on that that the Cardinals. But I candidate candidate bill that we don't know taught while I think that's been to get into to document it. You know -- some -- but it's in November want to indicate elapsed in the -- of argument what did we got Giants nobody know it when the football team that someone is is that Pittsburgh.

So wasn't offensive -- mean what are we looking at here.

Obviously if it kind of hit it big -- I do against the run desperate attempt to stop the run. Can you give you fourteen that you but it effort on the measures the percentage of negative after latest what do you what do you think the fact working -- defections. And then a negative effect on third down just really didn't stop the but the rocket scientist but. You know -- kind of look at it if it's definitely. Regular based on their patients in those areas in the Pistons would clearly number one so. In one respect that kind of missed the typical dog in the fight that the Pittsburgh win the -- went into that pretty good yeah. But apathetic I thought of the principal at Arizona where it is so.

Like what 'cause we need hope -- for a zone -- wants in Pittsburgh when another suitable. They you know they Sean Morey and -- years -- and and Kurt Warner -- we -- we like Arizona give us some didn't -- it's on.

Revenge though one remembered I had kind of -- finally realized that the regular Cuban does not matter. And I'll have accepted that it makes it into life with two bodies yeah.

Even the paid to even though it's -- sixteen -- in my forties means nothing.

Well you don't you know look at look at last season with the Patriots -- do it made it that they don't even -- you know they beat the Giants the recipient of could be pivotal in the typical self. You know it it doesn't really. It doesn't remember what would hope my point at a bulletin now what happened in the playoffs. Coddled in the first you get to the Super Bowl thirty plus point simply picked up. They can score on anybody to put some pretty pitching. It felt -- opponent under a hundred -- the ground that's unbelievable this team could not stop anybody on the ground that. Pretended to the team they let that big east Carolina and Atlanta which -- the best rushing team in football that -- these guys. And I didn't really interesting -- the -- Ken Whisenhunt did anyone in the play out of the coordinator at coaching. You know I mean -- this year it was or don't know five and still comfortable just -- coordinator. It was one and one adult pull up what the Philip -- Patriots music title game so you know that I think. He's this guy has what it takes to win we need big games but you look at her. Redo their -- can win I think those are pretty. We've pretty good examples right in any other thing is talk throughout the year. Arizona run when they have a balanced offense when -- when -- candidate run that got -- going to be -- but that big of a lot of -- respect -- attempts per game on the ground. Here in the playoffs and actually running the ball more than -- after the ball. Conversely ticket almost unstoppable so popular a lot of trends in the playoffs we look when you are up but it clearly in -- the.

And there's a fourth and final carry the two point -- on the in the information that the Cardinals pass defense has come out of nowhere to virtually shut down. Three of the better quarterbacks in the NFL guys that you -- ardently arguably make the case might be as good or certainly the same realm has been -- of years.

Dad got -- doing just that happened that I like -- to be the winner he doesn't want to go to. I -- to replicate because they played you know they need. The other got a pretty good quarterback in particular -- had the second best put it after waiting in the spring he needs it was embarrassed you know. I'm Matt -- put you that you get out of the Abington I know the actual bridesmaid but he's not a bad quarterback in Arizona with. I think thirtieth in defense of -- in 96 point nine with the effort. Which means they -- every quarterback they play book like Tom Brady -- an idiot.

And you know clearly think as a result has an advantage at quarterback because you know I can't believe you returned our calls you've gone global. When you made the case. For Kurt Warner overpaid Manning on SI dot com I mean. Much judge in this for this interview when he went you know because he's he's big time. -- I admit when you make a case for Kurt Warner is a better quarterback. Peyton Manning do on SI dot com your life changed a little bit carry.

Well that was -- way to get a lot of attention it to -- lot of exposure and -- you know I think that some idea that I really you know played a story two which is always nice you know but I think. You know I think some people would talk about how the media and it doesn't -- of people throughout stop registered to get attention out of people. I look at the number if you look at the numbers in the number I think equipped to -- you know Warner is better than eight minute. And the regular without getting hit one of the great NFL Iron Man you know what -- 176. Games you know we started out of the game. But -- put up incredible numbers but there's passer rating you know second best all time but I want to separating the third best all --

And her daughter gets he gets better in the playoffs and bear it out and gets worse.

Hitting all the opposite Europe in the playoff guys that they either write about the years of -- and don't you know I I do radiation at there they still want to gallop and everything but. They got different vantage -- what is Munich did not play as well in the playoffs he just doesn't end of after any decline like fifteen point that performance and Indies squad is that going to be picked up off the eight minute. The passer rating is -- if put thirteen when he went pregnant yet embarrassing us like. That's like you know I can Olympic record that that and -- can definitely bat -- I'm not picked up the let court order. -- played uproot that now the improvement approach the event easily into the postseason for the second -- Winning percentage in the -- of anybody in the NFL right now -- Tom Brady and you know he's played in the movie is playing in his third Super Bowl.

All right curiosity as -- hear -- say good -- here let's review what have we learned Warner is a better play a quarter of that back then Manning the Cardinals to build three very solid quarterback to a combined passer rating of 67. -- we now know that. You don't need to establish the run and we now know the defense does not win champions right yeah that's pretty -- in a nutshell.

Definitely going to help -- two. I I am I am going to Arizona right thing twenty foot when he very.

Excellent excellent Cuba and Gary Burton cold hard football that is fascinating stuff on the WB yeah -- Karrie thank you very much the time on our final broadcast before we get and I don't -- appreciate it Eric Bruntlett Dennis Kelly.