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You have my friend intrigued me. And I intentionally didn't ask him by the -- break I want to stay away from -- that he hits meat fresh when it hits you fresh. Well I have discusses I've talked about it briefly before but now after thinking about it more. It it gives you. Not that you're gonna go off and say okay the day dynasty is over for the Patriots. It's all over we enjoyed our time three championships that fit we're going to rebuild now. But think about. Well that's it for about. Now if you're a great coach your boys always leave there. It was always -- Where the year together any good out if -- what the what if -- know you want Italy.
Yeah whether your Bill Parcells -- the year Vince Lombardi. -- year Tom Landry. Bill Walsh all the great ones had great assistance. And the greatest right and went off then and did their own thing with varying degrees of success. But the thing that makes me nervous -- is that some of the great coaches in recent history. Have not won. When their -- Now when when Bill Parcells went back to Dallas. He was he was educating. A new crop of coaches Tony Sparano among them yet but he had to. Teach a lot of guys about him and about an about the way he would like to see football player because they didn't know many never had to do that.
Any -- to -- a lot Andy's used to -- in the past about having to coach your coach right. He didn't have to do it in New York that much. Either stop Giants projects. And have to do it with the Patriots.
Look at look at Bill Parcells in Dallas where they have better team. When he left then they -- when he got there absolutely. They -- a playoff game while he was there no they did not. So. It went down a bit yeah -- Bill Belichick. This is the first time. Really in his in his coaching career. That he'll be without. Scott pioli. Now he's not he's without Scott pioli and as not to open -- Scott -- and it was you know it's all about politics. Right bought tickets to a great coach that's going to change Scott pioli has nothing to do with Bill Belichick coaching opening. Other than helping him get -- players and it was but in terms of making decisions absolutely this is the way I see the game. But the big weakness for Belichick. At a previous stop in Cleveland what's personnel that was -- I'm understating. About the weakness that one's. Belichick is smart man maybe he looks back to Cleveland that of course I can see why screw that up. Because. I did this added that I actually believed in Andrei rise and actually thought. That that Michael Jackson was going to be a pretty good receiver. Yeah Antonio and Tommy cardinal pat. Pretty good top to rejoice and Antonio Langham had a good year to you look at some of those expect there and they dreadful. Scott pioli was not involved and with personnel at that time. And even though they've made some mistakes personnel wise here. In the last nine years everybody that they're good -- Picks outweigh the bad bad off but -- by far because you're good picks in some cases. Tom Brady Richard Seymour you're good picks and talk about him Ohio one day without being laughed --
Look I I said a few weeks ago and you -- talk me off but I said that I was having a really down pessimistic kind of day. And I wondered if the catch against the helmet with a Rodney Harrison draped all over him in Phoenix last year was the beginning of the yen for the New England Patriots. We know what's going to and some in his this this. Incredible on the this team's been on I wondered if that moment. Was the beginning of the -- You know yet ultimately we have no way of knowing this at the time Tom Brady goes out for the season with a knee injury. You've got that that dire predictions about what this knee injury could mean going forward. You know you have the team all eleven and five. And not make the play hosts eleven and five you look at the injury list now you've got that and and I've desertions not the right word the defections. From from this organization you know with pioli and Josh mcdaniels and brad ceiling in -- You keep picking away and pick it away and pecking away and sooner or later. You go holy crap we're not only used.
Add an out -- you know to complain I want to go back to that weakness that I talked about for second in the personnel department if you look at it this way. You've lost. To general managers from your personnel department in the last two years. That. You've lost promised -- a drop in Scott pioli in the last two years guys who other organizations have said. Yeah you've done so well there we want you to come here and set us up.
NSA that Belichick is number one on the depth chart they were to win three exactly so you have lost. You know two of your top three guys and obviously. Your Patriots and you say. I didn't move my number one I didn't lose my race. My -- is still there my -- is there. I can build around and -- the same thing and in baseball right you have your race and to build around them eighth and closed as the Cleveland Indians network. And when they had a couple while let yeah I hit that the cy young Award winner yeah. Building around their race didn't help much this year. He alum a year your race may have a helluva year and it still might -- I thought their ace had a helluva year this year. Army one of his best coaching jobs ever -- wasn't good enough.
So it will be interesting to see and this is definitely. A time transition. For the New England Patriots. I am not an -- that here in January and say. It's over because there's so many decisions that have to be made. We haven't had come mine yet you don't know what they're going to do when free agency you knock you don't know what they're going to do with their own players have some guys. Whose contracts are up -- they believe that. They need to -- up Richard Seymour right now they believe that they have the funds. To -- Vince Wilfork to a contract. How -- they see their first round pick. Is it something they want to hold on to are they excited about the second round pick of the going to use that from San Diego very high second round pick. Or they move that for future picked a lot of decisions that have to be made on this thing that this is it a great time of transition.
Not only that but they've got to -- edit personnel issue staring them square in the face. Starting here February was it that I think is the first day when you could franchise players isn't there a fourteen day period that begins February 5. First one's going to be what do we do with my cat would -- do I we -- and.
And -- Tom Brady don't. Do they go hand in hand yeah.
But let it Brady's getting on on -- them just because you could you could be nervous about it and it's going to be interest in the uh oh where where this franchise goes from here at the last time. The franchises in -- would mean maybe transitions too strong but the last time. Had a bit of a crossroads and wanted to know what was going to happen next. They had blown a huge lead in Indianapolis. Costing them a chance go to the Super Bowl. In your stamp it what was going to happen probably not going to be that active in free agency here comes Randy monster comes Wes Welker comes -- with Thomas. What happens now. Win coaches believe. When personnel people leave the big guy not only. The biggest guy in the personnel department what are your best friends so -- somebody. Who he trusted to do the job -- in terms of identifying players but somebody. About you know -- it -- it and don't dismiss that and there are times I can tell you for a fact there are times. Where Bill Belichick would call Scott pioli. Was off with just so he could bet just pitch at some. And and pioli know you know this is still going to be my friend at the end of the session but I just need to hear about. And at times he can talk in mop the ledge because you know bill at times and it was really a surprise you at times and always have the sunny if that's the that.
And -- shot that are to shock you that she lead and try try that out after 2 o'clock today so. Morning -- at times you know after a tough loss. Winners. Of the third they're cute -- it it. Yet for every player X -- player like has come down and I say it all the time outs in an outcome yeah. You know so it'll be interest in the Buick open.
And I and and all -- you say and I I fear you may be right that there isn't huge transition coming that's obvious. None of this is a knock on nick his stereo -- don't know. Or his abilities which I'm not. I'm not. Able hear it to critique -- player personnel abilities right now I don't know anything about it shall -- what draft looks like show me how they handle the interesting thing is as you said. Most teams work is done on the -- Which means Scott pioli takes all that information to Kansas anyway right. I mean he doesn't take -- the physical evidence the other but charts the graphs that report seek epic that but he pretty smart guy like.
Gave a smart guy and he knows who they might like but what he doesn't know. Is how the Patriots will set the report. He has no idea who was ranked number one who's he can probably guess better than mostly play and educated guess but. Many times I think I've said the -- before many times there are players on that what they call the backboard and the backboard. Is it is players. Who could be eligible for. You know undrafted free agents there -- guys we don't. Really love and not to put on the the front board. But they're players who did beat camp bodies they're missing something sometimes guys on the backboard. Because it is too short there too slow. They're too big too small something. And sometimes guys on there. Because there -- intriguing prospects. But. There's not a lot of production to match. Yeah the centuries ago and went back and -- to draft pick on hand. Or sometimes they played added the three schools or deed to -- to school I did okay. And they might have pretty good size but I don't know what's going to happen times Bill Belichick will go to that backboard. And look at a player and say why is he here. I don't agree with that now have a conversation about it and the player move from the back sport the first sport perfect example you know that happened for the -- Once upon a time Deion Branch is on the backboard.
Bill Kaman said. Look at his production in college so I mean I'm always small and no they and I like the pass the ball mobile but let let's look at him a little further. And and the player will move around with a lot of back and forth there. I my my instincts tell me they'll be fine. But it just it's something we haven't seen before. And that in the pioli Belichick marriage has always been a pioli Belichick marriage and it's not there anymore in terms of professional. It in terms of their professional lives.
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