Dale & Holley's Opening Segment

I spent my early morning hours of my first day back at work in the new year. Worried about the health and welfare of won the horse ran. I mean I 6:10 this morning and I am thinking and I hope to Andy's okay. And should we send somebody over to make sure that the sharpest object in his home is a rubber ball. Make -- after the simple. Exciting ball read it was -- I heard it was a great ending.

The one dollar rebound and roll call myself a lawsuit makes the long history of Roger sounds. This game's over at Boston College is upset the number one team that's our -- 857850. North Carolina paying more I'll.

And you know it in restrained given the -- with his family have gotten excited about. Lesser victories for Boston College in this is legitimately. Big win for -- and he's trying to keep it here's Mike concerned. My concern is. And I feel bad for both -- and Al Skinner. -- Well. Loaded and probably -- people shall I don't want to know Roman times. American press and -- And you know I don't I think it's a good way to start the I don't I don't he'll he'll lay out there Exel I don't -- about. But the bottom line it now but the bottom laugh and is this. And it want to set in that game and not a forget about. I -- never watch college basketball matter who's playing. Never watched college basketball when the playoffs -- Between the playoffs and college basketball. The playoffs. Ten times that didn't.

I was dancing back and forth and then I was -- between BC in the Celtics and then I had to stop -- because like couldn't watch anymore infomercials. I mean this is then technical things happen and I understand that and god knows they happened here they happen and every electronic media you can thank out. Well -- what tough tie -- for NASA to have technical issues when you've got you know the biggest upset of the of the college basketball season going on and all of a sudden I'm watching infomercials sin and almost millions to gators and and and nothing on the screen and saying you know we get technical problems we'll get.

The game know at what point does happen. Four minutes left in the game and a cup. They wild upon knowledge about Michael. Rejoined with four point eight seconds left so you'd get this handshakes and it was like are you know important from the -- it marked -- four point 82 mark. In general not yet. The noise not much. Ever explain what happened. On the screen. And I understand and Steve Harvey show up at their current. Pilot -- cars at a Boston Tampa Bay. -- or is there -- that -- the park. It yesterday it was it was one of those comedy better thing and unfortunately. A lot of the attention today could and probably ago. Al Skinner and BC basketball huge win for them are -- one of the lead stories on sports better. And unfortunately. Round air if you talk in Boston college and ultimately you're talking about is Jeff is Hinske and it.

Fired -- he is going to unify the bizarre to. Not know what they're not here not the chipper mood today because that's the classic case. In subordination now happens all the time here WB yeah -- but you don't. Act. -- year but in the real world. At that and apparently. This is clear objectives and he. One interview for the job for the Jets we talked earlier this morning yet percent chance didn't -- get.

When he fives. Are going over this I sent I sent to Michael. You know what what you eat your mind what's the chances he gets this game when he -- and I said one and and so somewhere in the same row park. And I said if you got a 5% chance of getting a job which means they 75%. Chance of not if you don't get the to knock out. Why would you go interview for it. And and that meant the threat maybe title maybe it's not the threat is -- going to be fired from a long term lucrative contract. Yeah I don't let you know I wonder if the relationship theories not may be what we would expect on --

There probably isn't and maybe he wants to be five acts where I'm okay from now what happens -- he does -- Is is there anything and has countered I don't I don't. Contracts for college coaches are all over the planet weird I mean it's strange yet this guy signed a nine year contract and then. You see your daughter -- but you know things going to the school is going to that school Saban has all those -- and -- what happened to the nine year contracts I wonder. If there's something and his contract. That's you know if you get fired you get guaranteed money or you get fired for. Reasons that you know insubordination for lack of better term right right that you don't get the money. I can be one thing he he may want to -- number two we may want out of of of the college game on again. The pro guy he does run a pro offense there at BC. Matt Ryan. Was made for him that they were made for each other that once Bryant right that was that was great to watch because if you look at. Ryan was the real legitimate NFL person they had on the -- Dominic Davis isn't. I'm Santo that's it until masters and let the backs and receivers. It was perfect. That. He he made I mean that rhymes record accurately named Matt Ryan -- And and turned him into away eight.

A top five top five -- draft pick and a lot of money and oh by the way he's pretty good at the next.

Level if if crane didn't get hurt this year. I'm thinking they win the ACC championship. Yet probably. But he's a pro guy he has worked in the NFL before. Any he's probably look at looking at -- thing. That's why you want to deal with recruiting. I don't want to deal with posters. I don't want to deal with college presidents. I don't want to deal with eight games I don't want to deal with I can only practiced X amount of hours per week I don't want to deal -- kids being eligible. Just bring me some talented guys and let me coach him all they are back in the day.

And this goes back hundred years when Tom Coughlin was at BC and I was two in the game's. Exactly thank. -- I don't want overstated but let's just say the relationship between he and athletic director -- glad chuck was sort of strained. Now Jacksonville came along with the -- had that effect on a lot of people -- in all and not Jacksonville came along with the operable lifetime. I mean no self respecting college coach wouldn't have jumped at the chance that Jacksonville game Coughlin. But I got news for it if Jacksonville had not come call. Tom Coughlin wasn't going to work protect Vlad chart for much longer. It just did it they were at loggerheads. I mean it was you know they were butt heads on up on a weekly if not daily basis. And I wonder behind the scenes what the relationship is like between the head football coach at a very good academic institute.

to get academic institution. Of program. Explicitly that. It's happened forever. I'm sorry -- you can't get that -- No sorry I know he helluva player for you but he's back all right that's all right even though they've had to deal with that every coach in practice coach -- Tom O'Brien had to deal with it. And -- again having an inning actually. In law and I don't know. What. I'm going to gamble. That it worked on it and it but. Despite that despite a BC being a very good school. They've been able to win consistently a football. They've been able to win consistently and basketball all that the excuse. Where you say I go to Alabama. I can go to LSU go to Ohio State with -- grade. And have an an and have a very good program that program here. The issue it it is. He probably is in love with college and is probably the pro football. -- And he thought maybe -- pre K. He wasn't head coach and that. But. Steppingstone you -- didn't realize how much like the pro game. College game. Maybe yet but maybe as much confidence in his own ability. He thought that this could be denies the steppingstone to it would put in the position of the position he's at today. The interview -- the New York Jets -- and now. If they outline. -- they don't look to Vanderbilt. I.

do we use to always dreamed of maybe. Let. I've -- up they had a -- and he.

The smoke don't -- to -- to -- Greatly in Europe you playing Cincinnati. In -- yet game I don't. -- which is they've made it to the deck in Cincinnati union maybe beat up on Cincinnati and then. You know he got a higher profile but maybe -- profile will be much larger. I'm much more widespread than it is right now.

Maybe I mean you'd think he'd know law lets stop before you arrive but it's possible you write it and maybe got -- I didn't realize it was can be likeness. And realize we have played technical --

Actually that has come down they got -- nice little streak going you know we won eight consecutive bowl games. What team ended that streak was at Oklahoma. Texas Ohio State Ohio State. Then. Yeah who -- you volume and in street. Today they won their first bowl games with eyes and our administration and and is that up but obviously we've talked about it before. They -- Jack with a perfect I've been that. A young guy. Who who he would be at BC for a month. Wasn't really huge name but I have some pro experience. Is is not Nick Saban it's not Pete Carroll a guy you know Bob stoops one of those guys. But somebody. Who can relate to younger player who can relate to kids and also has a vision for -- 21 century offense which -- did. It was looking -- looking at BZ as a launching pad for another -- And so. We found that guy we probably had a guy and that guys got. Now you have a guy like Tom O'Brien who stayed for a long time actually state -- that you wanted to in the state because it felt like program was pretty good pretty solid. But how many big and next yeah how many how many big wins in the Tom O'Brien there.

Dan -- that we've we've been over that. Tom Coughlin. Had the program going to -- there's no doubt in my mind it would have been consistent top ten program. On -- He -- couldn't check -- but it would not only. But he -- broke again and now it's it's such a tough balance that fine someone who was really exceptional. And is not and doesn't have wanderlust for the pros. I mean how do you find that.

I mean what howdy hot vehicle out. And get yourself fired. Over a job interview that that you know you don't really have much chance of landing now now maybe maybe the relationship between Woody. And Brett is such that Brett called Woody up and said man I tell you -- want coach in the jets' next year or -- you go get. Woody doesn't think -- girls. -- Brett no it doesn't and Brett and that's the problem that after not after that final game of the season for summary -- like I can't figure it out either. But I'm telling -- Pratt looked back and play what he's a lot of I mean I find it hard to believe -- just like you do. And as part for me to feel sorry for anything involving the New York Jets in the Spirit of the season. I tried to feel my heart would -- up for the New York Jets drive around a holiday yeah we -- I mean in the Spirit of the season. I hate them now I hate them with a white hot intensity in -- I mean I hate the more than I've ever hated them before I grow up in New England so I've always hated them all right I'm more. I loved when Steve Nelson added -- on the helmet preakness field goal and I I hate them. So I don't feel sorry for much that goes on in Eric Mangini expiring doesn't do much you know out of that one might artery. Eric Mangini wasn't a lot of the issue down there of course I'm beginning to think more and more that the guy who survived. Mike cannon bomb. Has been a lot of the issue when you read some of the things that have been coming out over the last week or so. Back to spike you your theory has always been it was Tannenbaum. Who who blew the whistle on the spy -- stuff and Eric kind of took the fall sport but it was -- really. It's cannon bomb and Woody Johnson who I think forced Brett Favre on Eric Mangini.

There's no doubt in my mind there's no doubt in my mind -- and one. That's a fact did not want. Brett Favre and a few days before they sign Brett Favre. You must kill them behind this thing Eric what. I'm not thinking about Brett Favre we got issues that tackle got to worry about our our our fifth corner. We gotta we gotta improve in this area. We don't need Brett Favre and then a few days later they have Brett Favre so either he hadn't one of those come to Jesus meetings or. The guy. Was forced to -- sports to.

Help me out here as you know Eric and all normal. What's the relationship with the when I first heard that the quotes coming out from Teddy atlas. Like it when Teddy atlas who rank boxing out it's only in what is his boxing. -- he hired Tedy. Well -- in the comments came up from atlas the last few days they said he was part of the jets' coaching. Staff --

All he had he had atlas command and show. Some have anybody who won and wanted to learn like some boxing because he thought especially for for the defensive lineman and offensive linemen you know hand and use hand -- and it's important. That he thought that gives them boxing lessons from Teddy atlas that might help. Actually part of the Jets. I'll be with you did not wearing the green. Ugly green. Pullover and the khakis on Sunday with the white shoes that way.

I am really glad that. -- It's almost as manager Jim teacher with a two tight shorts. And and that they're they're that really uncomfortably high I don't doubt that that is that the worst let's put this one is pretty close but. I don't know is that having -- within that role but he did do some things for the Jets in there what you read his comments you read some comments from the players. Around the new year about about Breton and you know his distance from the rest of the team. And I think it Eric Mangini took the ball from Mike cannon bombs screw ups here. And -- I'm going to get it out yet.

See this is that and I love NFL. Most popular sport of the major sports out their but also the dirty. You can see it. With some of the coaching moves that went on here. I mean Mike Shanahan has nothing to complain about now that's a pretty good you've got a good run you can go for one year years with a one organization yeah and the owner. Is still emotional when he talks about -- it really hurt him to fire you -- that that's a good side and NFL. But what we just off from Mangini and Tannenbaum and New York a Tibet probably. They want it to be pioli ballots. That was their whole thing coming here they wanted to be the Patriots. And they had this great friendship we've known each other for a long time. But when things start to get a little uncomfortable. When the pressure was on and the Jets started to stumble down the stretch. And a bomb deserted his boy.

The Pirates and Woody -- I think I don't know what you can be just -- and it really I know.

I don't have any sympathy for the double ranked as the Jets and Wada and they have chaos it at all to the -- go for the -- dollars. But the fact is this guy had two winning seasons out of three. Yeah they got ten and 64 to 1297. And gets fired yes they lost. Some games down the stretch that you could say they shouldn't have lost but the bottom line is. -- good. Just because they have seven pro -- and keep -- as it should we have seven pro bowlers and we spent all this money just because you spend money doesn't make you good. The third best team in your division you won four games a year before. Yeah -- You you. You drop down a great quarterback let's face. From Chad Pennington to Brett Favre followed Chad Pennington looked like Brett Favre that's okay that's all right yeah but but Chad Pennington I. -- wasn't but at better you have been much better for the definitely want to think about it and if you want to look at it this way. The Jets not only hurt themselves. They propped up Miami yeah. Miami didn't have Chad Pennington whose record. Chad --

Who who's going to be good I think he's going to be really good even though he's missed a guy. He's got to -- and a couple of years he would have been good in his first year they would of then you know the pub or in -- maybe six maybe they went six games now. So you you prop up the team. In your own division. And you get worse quarterback and the head coach. Paid the price for all your mistakes it's silly. And dirty.

Will take a break now when we come back well look there's a lot that's gone on while we've been -- and we're going to run through wall we're going to take a lot of calls today as well but want to talk about Scott pioli. And and what's going on with him and Josh mcdaniels and what's going on with him. And we hope all -- my money's great and and bilateral you've heard ESPN is now reporting. The Patriots are going to franchise mapped out the possibility of trade I am I mean I don't know you know if you caught up yet with -- all the stuff.

As -- on Mike Lombardi east reports that he's talked to people in the organization. -- he's heard that. Mack Matt Cassel can be franchise that's that's. Us all we had to say before we that we can set that three weeks ago it's three weeks ago but we just said we talk to people in the organism out of him batter wouldn't. WEEI Boston about a grounds -- now that's -- in baton pass yeah. Is going to franchise which but yeah all sports center today we didn't really just when it talked about in the last time. I saw you Mark Teixeira with deciding between Boston and not a --