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Wed, 17 Dec 2008|

With the snow falling in Boston, the guys talk baseball at Fenway Park

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  1. Mark Teixeira1:28, 4:41, 5:11
  2. Nick Swisher4:30, 4:45, 5:08
  3. AJ Burnett6:08, 6:57
  4. Mike Mussina6:23
  5. Bobby Abreu6:27
  6. CC sabathia6:06, 6:55
  7. Jason Giambi6:28
  8. Johnny Damon14:45
  9. Baltimore Orioles2:39
  10. Yankee Stadium4:09

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Automatically Generated Transcript (may not be 100% accurate)

I don't know about you but. The minute the first snow fall. It's Boston the minute you start that have one of those two and a half hour commutes like I had today that just -- baseball to me it's greens Fenway Park to me and you know even though you might have had an urge to go to -- something about the personal fall means we gotta go to Fenway Park.

I agree with you. I agree absolutely I mean means no to me means baseball Fenway Park and here we are. Construction everywhere well that's there is every I was out there that that's what it means as snowfall in Boston in December means construction at Fenway Park in again who knows that going on here but. There's a lot of people on the right field line of people green right field line and working on the ruled out there. And and don't panic but everything is out of place. Of the Bank of America's time is now enough right field Budweiser is in left field. The wall. Doesn't exist right now they took it down damages that it really winner there really just turns things around is note there's going to be people listening to that's our series I'm absolutely series.

I hope Fenway Park ball out and those -- I took her all about it those carpetbaggers Larry Lucchino he's only down. Did it get old you are my favorite player and that's right.

It is obviously the middle of the hot stove season. I'm I'm I mean I'm probably were most people are right now which you kind of just wishing that Mark Teixeira would picks someplace any place here Baltimore. LA wherever it is just pick a place and get it over with. He's probably feeling that way as well as Stanley's probably feel that way as well but if your Red Sox fan it's like you know -- just call me when it's over at this point.

You know it for him I can I can understand why he's taking his time. All is really a lot of money out there -- he's got a lot of money and he's probably deciding between two teams. I mean I'd be surprised if he went to Washington. Because I don't know their money they're going to have the top book for. The top offers got to come from in my opinion is going to come from Los Angeles or Boston. Well and at one point those both those franchises. Washington Baltimore going to say okay. Now they've gone to the next level where wealthy. Leave re she's okay -- eat rich I guess what what's better richer wealthy. Well funny what whatever whatever is whatever is better Baltimore and Washington are not --

Updated within literally the last sixty seconds buster only on espn.com. And updated 10:19 AM. The Baltimore Orioles have basically said inning going to be here does it you know it's common sit guys out and it goes along with exactly what you're going to say. A source told only quote the Orioles are out of it. Unless Teixeira really really wants to play there. It says so the Orioles have stood by their initial offer have not upgraded it. And sources say that the other teams involved in the betting the Red Sox Angels and nationals have gone beyond Baltimore's proposal. Well already sell that the Orioles have basically said look we tried. Here it was it was a helluva offer by the way you know a lot of money in a lap -- but we're just there there are limits even even in baseball there --

Yes so Baltimore's out I believe Washington is out and some I thought Washington we Indians on what you one in New York you always have to pay attention to the Yankees just because -- of the Yankees but you -- Quarter of the billion dollars. Already dead -- guys.

Yeah are you are you are you are you seriously half ability are you seriously going to go to the city of New York and the State of New York. -- your hat your hand and your new stadium you know nearing completion. And ask for supposedly another 360. Some odd million. After you've just drop. Well at quarter rebellion so far are you going to -- half a billion and then go to the State of New York it's you know we -- to help here. Already. In the city of New York in the State of New York. You're getting a lot of grumbling about how much public money has gone into the the new Yankee Stadium so far. I think there comes a point where even the Yankees say.

just don't think we can to -- I don't know but they're there on the there on the margins Arnold's never say the Yankees are out of it. Even if you think they have a player already at that position because this as us at the big game James this morning. The Yankees will not let Nick Swisher get in the way of what they want to do what Mark -- I mean think about it that way mixed -- matter how much money make a million dollars a year not -- out of the year. You'll Mark Teixeira in -- really want to sharpen. -- got Nick Swisher at that position ultimately what what what -- an adult but essentially was saying the same thing but the Yankees. It was at about the Red Sox the Red Sox have a position for Mark -- right now no. You're going to create one form. They have a first baseman yet but the going to and they have a third baseman. But their plan is to move around on base in the third and move the third baseman about it now well the Yankees they have Nick Swisher. But guess what they really want Mark Teixeira and they can afford him Nick Swisher will not stand in the way.

I'll tell you what I think the irony is and and what has been lost in the spending spree of the Yankees. In the two pitchers in the quarter of billion dollars in contracts. Their payrolls going down this year. It go on down there's -- their payroll be lower this year than it was last. They they haven't even come close to spending. The money that is going off the books in fact they could sign Teixeira and and and pick your guy Derek -- picket sign both of them. And their total payroll could be less than it was last year.

So which -- the Yankees payroll is going down while I'm ahead what they already saw star above everybody acts you know. Now you're going from from bill Gates's master bedroom to the lobby and I mean and line is still somebody notebook but my point is. Everybody has looked at the signings of CC sabathia. And and AJ Burnett and at home got to spending. Their payroll will be lower this year than it was last year when all is said and done they're actually going to spend less money now again they were so far ahead of everyone else. It's they're still well -- and payroll goes down you're taking off Mike Mussina is numbers. But you got a lot you've got you've got Bobby Abreu you've got Jason Giambi you've got. OK so so we take off Abreu mussina Andy Pettitte.

But but it's come back on maybe. I'm not sure that is gone back to the Yankees are you put that about I'm I'm not -- I'm not an excuse that it yet he's still. He'll be back on it probably. 1012 million dollars a year. For Andy -- you put on -- Marc Jerry put on CC sabathia. Put on AJ Burnett. We said Giambi and Abreu are the big ones.

We you've got -- and the Yankees have taken almost eighty million dollars off their payroll. From last year they have taken off almost eighty they're not going to add anywhere close. -- Eighty million dollars. That's how much. People comes. And people have army just to show you go visit I have I have within as attractive woman. Attractive women coming to see me. How did not what you assume that you are common. And she's nodding her head she is coming to the my name is a lack of position with the poor woman while that from your business. And guess. What not a body Agassi -- Fantastic employee from the Red Sox. Jennifer aren't -- Jennifer Flinn and her sister. Works it Sports Radio WE I know you're with that and don't know this one nova depth on its coach and now -- So you actually comes as the -- gonna say hello to show so back to the point where they're going to spend lasts. And I know people don't believe that when they look at the numbers that have been spent so far but they're looking at these at these overall numbers and -- single -- billion dollars. If you look at per year they're going to spend a lot less than they spent last year and and you know what what's really scary appear Red Sox fan. They could add Teixeira. And still spent less than I spent last year.

That's last -- okay fine and that number goes down. So it goes now fifteen million dollars is still. Significantly ahead of anyone else in baseball so. If they spent last this year. In two years they'll spend more than anybody in the history of baseball knowledge of distilled in -- it's mind boggling. But but. But our our point the original point was. What's going to happen -- Mark Teixeira and what is going to happen while it's it's very difficult position between the Angels in the Red Sox. -- in this case I don't know if you heard Jerry during the cross overnight -- but hurt him to a buzzer beater and talk about Scott Boras. He's a season ticket holder with the Angels -- sitting right there Patterson so. I know we talked yesterday about his responsibility. And it is is. It is charged with finding the best place. For Mark Teixeira but what stops to share from saying to Boris.

What what do you think. Now we're we're do you think pressure again nothing. Because if if you I'm and you you do they'll ultimately got pulled regular -- you gotta do it now whatever you want you gotta decide you've gone over the you've made the pros and cons list you've done it. You know fifty times you talk with your -- you talk with your best friend from high school you talk with your family. You talk with teammates you talk with Red Sox you talk with so many people. At that point is they are. You know somebody else may well up to it -- something I don't.

All your Mark Teixeira. Or any any player if you actually get to the point where use and I don't think he ever way. Where you get to the point would you rate and we say you know what Scott you decide okay. I'll I'm overwhelmed you decide it's fine I don't think I can be an idiot.

I don't know I don't know I don't think you'll say you'd decide but I can't see him saying what do you think all absolutely which ample. And so if you're asking -- Boris what is what is --

He would probably aren't as -- he would probably say. I've lived in California for a long time it's a beautiful stadium. They want to win. They've done a lot in the last five years to upgrade the payroll and talent base. I got a lot of kids coming up got a good minor league system so if you don't think these guys that your your current veteran teammates are enough to get it done. Don't worry that the Angels as he spit them out and they are aggressive Artie Moreno has is really. Is really determined to take over Los Angeles from the Dodgers. They're not going to cut payroll by 30% in the next three or four years not to worry about it going to be competitive every year so I.

All of that all of that's true if the money's. I think the Red Sox a -- things -- absolutely. I think I now I've its interest in news we we joke about this all the time Bill Belichick controls everything that comes out of Gillette Stadium. There's one person one maybe two they're two people within the organization who could pretty much say whatever they want and get away with a -- Brady. Look pretty much they would every once he chooses to follow the company line the other is the owner who could pretty much say when he wants does what's Bill Belichick and it. You get the same situation in today's Boston Herald there is one guy in the organization. Who can go outside the little cocoon that BO has built. You know Theo has has built a very Bellic shaky and type of baseball operations. There's one voice it's he has there's one negotiator -- him. There's 1:1 central. But except the guy whose names at the top -- the letterhead. The guy who who is the prince.

Loner who can say -- they -- today and what was he thinking he was that they in the past that's what he would -- it was not thinking why would you say. We won't go ten years even if it's true don't say it don't give -- guys because now I don't I don't think the Angels will go to in years. But if if if they are going to take his comments at face value they are. Albany to do is offered to your contract and we got to get. Because Boston's not going to do it and that's one advantage we have of the red over the Red Sox I'm just the only reason it makes cents. Is it John Henry knows that the deal was already done the Mark Teixeira has agreed to sign with the Red Sox and his it is in the -- is talking. Just to talk -- you which you wouldn't do it's not him a dominant in April I just don't understand why you would give away any type of any type of leverage. To another --

I mean zero leverage and it's why a lot to do it if you think about it. Are we -- positive the Red Sox have made an offer. We think they we certainly have every reason to believe they have I haven't announced that like the Angels have beaten him bad habits settle work I'm sure there I mean Theo hasn't set a war right -- her baseball operations hasn't said a word. You know for all we know they've made a one year offer for all we know they've made it tenure -- we don't know anything. Which is how much it. We also don't know whether tejada like I don't -- I don't think it's how it's I don't -- I don't like for us I'm saying it is if you're negotiating. If you're Theo it's exactly how you should. And it's like in -- back to your point. Even if it's a light little tiny pieces of information while Red Sox aren't don't attend. You don't want to -- American -- I mean if you feel you don't want anybody to know anything I mean nothing. Because you need this bit of leverage over the Orioles and you need this bit of leverage over the Angels. This little tiny bit here help senior negotiate Asian against the Yankees. While that's what a tiny bit of information which unless as you said. Unless let's -- off it.

Only -- us -- about it and we want to that we want to announce that. Right and it has more to -- just before Chris we microphones set up in that respect yes well. That's not the case because this is one of those. This is one of those pursuits. They had so many. So many people plugged in to mean their people plugged into the sports can't. Johnny Damon. Ken Rosenthal their people plugged into the marketshare camp I'm convinced it's our local boy from -- Carl Ravitch and plug in to Teixeira if you got a lot of information here. Their people plugged into the Red Sox their people plug into the Angels so if anything happens with Mark Teixeira. We're going to find out within five or ten minutes -- who's going to break the story. -- Right now John Wallach is gonna break the story John -- broke the -- the last time he broke a story. It was it was huge. It was a huge going to you know put the time element on the it -- not a not a dominant but he will break that the first word you hear about Mark Teixeira who come from John -- the first. The last story broke. With an NFL lead story Rosey Colvin coming back to the Pacers don't follow. It was -- sports and Steven -- has had a exclusive with Rosey Colvin sitting out explain why you came back as the big deal. They talked about on NFL -- So as we speak. He's preparing it's definitely not at this -- it and it could happen now they'll come and eleven you don't know what you adolescent young and times -- You know back in the day if your teammate Larry Bird is it paid attention because the -- hit -- The man you know he's got -- backed RT pay attention island the ball's going to lobby to John -- you going to bring some. Always.

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