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Tue, 9 Dec 2008|

The guys discussed the great Bruins start and baseball's Winter Meetings

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  1. Julio Franco24:43
  2. CC sabathia11:29, 11:46, 12:03
  3. John Farrell11:27, 22:21
  4. Terry Francona11:01, 13:34, 14:06
  5. Daisuke Matsuzaka24:24
  6. Bill Parcells15:20
  7. Aaron Ward3:25
  8. Patrice Bergeron3:13, 5:46
  9. Bill Belichick15:17, 18:37, 21:40
  10. Phil Kessel6:00

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actually got a point. Where the Bruins are just am good now and after the first -- idiots out collect some football for a while as this went in the bag. Actually gotten there have been dominant. Boston Bruins the -- people funny how things have changed around here if you think about where the Bruins have men for. A number of years now island. What they did again last night -- a sprinting up with arena in first period lead. Eaton cruise control when not playing the Lakeland Julian one in the second third period that --

There -- cracks me up. Is that when when people talk about Tim Thomas not being on the All-Star -- guess what he really think Tim Thomas won't be. In the All-Star game it's it's such -- it's such a non story you'll be an all. It's a certain lack of respect involved there was an All-Star last year. How can not be on the ballot this year he was an All-Star last year any -- was on the ballot last year. Right on the balance okay became an all. He's on the ballot what you're on it I'm chipping. Almost automatically -- analogous to what matters is if you -- you when those guys -- those players who cares about making you know starting. -- that matters is the -- the All-Star Tina and make it. I mean you look at his numbers it's hard our guys great that he's been he's got a great had a great season you know I outside they'll.

The studio era in the hallway we have a big ego white board with that calendar. And like how to keep attractive for instance the celtics' schedule is out there as we do the Celtics games and you know with every game they put -- WM -- Sorrow for the score and I know those -- Celtics scores out there. To wells on the entire calendar you know to get them the schedules for the month of November and December and Eric to wells on that entire giant white Puerto. And -- a look at the Bruins who have lost what twice in the last fourteen games or some Micah. I mean basically go back to the end of November they've lost twice. Think about that for a minute the Celtics in the Bruins have combined for four losses. In basically the last seven weeks some --

Well well what the Celtics we know what there. Championship pedigree is we know there they can handle business when it comes down to it they've done it we got the banner to prove. Are you sure. Are you sure this is different.

The Bruins don't idea. So -- I I mean I think it is yes but I believe me I am long past the point it's at all absolutely -- is totally different. I think it it wants it to go out on a limb here you know what's its army do they get out of the first round. Does this team get out the first you gotta tell I there's no way can says it. I'll say come on talk radio both Pakistan. And and you know of the differences I liked -- I don't know have something to back up what I -- could say what he thought I doubt that the team is only what they look like in April because the team may not look anything like it does right now -- what Chelsea they play whether you play right now absolutely. No no no question but that's you call everybody still is helping them is they are now. I'm a whole lot of things can happen between Allen and as we saw with Patrice Bergeron last October. Yet this team's helping positively. They get through the first round of fact I think they go further than if this team that you saw last night. Get Aaron Ward back in the line you're still missing a couple of -- in -- they aren't that if they are healthy -- I put my quotation fingers up. They go to the Stanley Cup fine. If they -- if they're healthy they're they're finals being yes. How'd that --

Well let me ask you this. Where we. What are we doing when this all happened hot out at the -- the Bruins. Become a potential Stanley Cup final. And no one saw that I'm I'm not talking about the French driver -- from New Hampshire sees it every year. I'm not talking about those folks don't -- this. You're your mainstream hockey fans. At this time last year no one was saying of the Bruins in one more year -- there one year away from getting to the Stanley Cup -- how did this happen.

Or guys we -- we missed that we can played beat ourselves up game. I promise you the Bruins didn't seem to see Peter surely didn't see this and immediately did Nellie didn't. Absolutely -- This this amount of him they thought they were better they thought that they would be a playoff team all those things. There is no way the people who put the team together. Sought this amount of improvement in this amount of time there's just no there's no one spotlight August why don't you think you rallies are coming maybe he's smarter than -- give -- credit for. I think he sports and we given credit for but that's our game nobody ER EI RI heard him on on the land a few weeks ago say. You know. Being honest about it. This team is is better than they thought was going to. Talk.

Lately -- you know -- but the team together -- relative peace in the Rome I don't I know he's in the room but -- you know and and that's a dangerous thing that's his opinion. I don't I don't think Cam -- speaks for for Peter surely doesn't. I would assume not writing so -- Toby for himself also -- is opinion is. This team is better than expected obviously there are -- better than I expect I saw an eight seed last year. A go to game seven against Montreal so that was great it was it was fun for the city and people went to game six. How how exciting it was and throwing it was. But the fact is they lost in the first round again last year. And I expected -- team that was going to be a sixty or five best case scenario.

But mainly based -- up and we thought they just the return of Patrice Bergeron was going to make them. I don't think anybody saw Blake Wheeler being what he has right now even Peter surely probably didn't expect this. I'm not sure anybody saw this much improvement. In Phil Kessel at this point scored a seventeenth goal of the year last night to score goals and six straight game while I disagree with -- on Cassel. Because what happened that we're talking about a guy who was benched him.

okay that's not as he was benched in a playoff but what happened what changed that series what turned it around they couldn't score in the series. Claude had benched Cassel then almost any sit on -- put the kid and -- was great that you thought the kid was gonna be thirty goal scorer this out there. Listen I mean -- long and I'm telling. We're talking about a kid who was the fifth overall pick in the draft. That had maybe five or six great players. Five or six you know they're going to be ready for the NHL very soon he was in that draft he was in that crop. -- Now but I'm saying. Why would you expect this kid to improve in the toughest circumstances. Montreal. Playoffs he produced.

I was I didn't say that he wouldn't improve what I said was I don't think anybody expected he was going to be on pace to score more than thirty goals this year. I mean that's gotta be somewhat realistic and it's all Wellington deceit here now -- at all while I knew it was a courtside. I -- we'd have twenty goals by Christmas no I didn't I didn't have any clue that he.

If you know if someone said -- TO. He's going to be on line with Marc Savard and you know marks of art history and who Louise who he's roll -- who is crew has been. You'd say okay if he continues to improve and he's not there was Savard Savard is a great playmaker he sets people up. Sure he might have an opportunity annulled it right of -- of if you if you're given that information and maybe change your handle it.

But I still wouldn't expect this much improvement. In Milan -- just the other wing on the line to and I loved me -- teach but you know he's not. Wayne Gretzky in the in the -- making department he brings a lot of things to the table. And I think he brings a lot of things that outline. Look I I am I want to give Julian as much credit as I -- rally on this whole thing. Because -- leadership really did do a good job putting this team together and I think Claude Julian -- spectacular job. Of putting the pieces in the right places. You know mixing and matching reading his team night to night shift to shift practically -- this line's goal. They're -- right back out there you know what this line doesn't seem to have -- right now I'm going to cut back on their ice time a little bit but I'll coaches operate that right. On a lot of coaches sailor here my first line here's my second line here's my third line here's my fourth line. And you know and -- this is we do what we do this this is what it's going to be tonight and eat it tomorrow night and I give him credit for that. I I think he gets he he he gets a lot of credit for me. In the way he has handled this team. Night in night out and and I I've joked about it here for the last month or so. The irony is while people on the front office are begging people talked about how great the Bruins. They're trying to sell tickets they're looking for TV ratings. -- at St. -- here you know you guys need to you know all that.

That's what the coaches. All coaches are successful coaches are like pride and it's great they're always that they look at any kind of and he -- distractions it look at. Potential problems they see their their players getting too much attention. Or players not getting enough attention. So they'll they'll talk up the guys who were more getting enough attention who need the boost. Then they'll knock down the guys were getting too much and and their egos are overtaken so. Any coach in any sport is going to do that they like you got that won anything yet it's just regular season is just December. Big deal Boston missing a lot of great hockey and recently using teams of first place so what are we done.

Well I'd I loved what they've done it I'd love how they play. I love how tough they are and I know I've said that were a lot about them. And it doesn't mean meal on -- each drop the gloves and punch and somebody in the notes all the -- that it. It's it's a team toughness it's -- it's a willingness to go to bat for a teammate it's a willingness to take you know did win that -- apple on the corner yep. Puck is in the corner tool vehicle when I come out went. The Bruins haven't always felt that way and they are now and I I know what hockey fans like in this town daylight grip hard work. Team toughness. They like skill to which -- follows other things then well. What the playing to 92% of capacity or something right now.

They're doing they've gotten they've got a right now so it's it's a fun team to watch. They're fun to watch outside it. Even though the Red Sox have not played eight games since October. I'm having fun watching. These moves or potential moves. In the offseason here and -- I like the back and forth between the media and Theo Epstein and Terry Francona a did you meet.

You know what -- yeah it is almost it did they should they should just not meet with the media I mean I'm I'm I'm serious if the -- it's gonna try that hard. To say words and not speak any real sentences just stop the sure ray I'd -- It's I mean I'm reading -- quotes in the globe today in this is Tito Francona. But the media reports are scary the -- and John Farrell. Met with CC sabathia okay now now. That's a pretty big deal I'm not sure how I don't think the interest is as sincere as you do but that's out those three guys meet with. The biggest free agent pitcher available that's a big deal so they -- Terry. That's simple question did you meet with CC sabathia. -- I I don't know. Did I. No moment my normal stop is not presented Poland and we. I don't think not to might not lynch I'm known that I mean was it I just didn't -- with CC sabathia not to might not pitch. He'd be hard to -- to eat now.

you ever watch you ever watch the show heroes there's as one guy who gets messed with your mine and he can just. A race all your thoughts were erase all your memories so maybe that's what happened Tito you've gone -- you know I.

You know moment to my knowledge to he'll say we did. Pocono. And and yet statement that we -- I haven't done much to be so. I would I would bet he was checking them. I'm into a little bit bigger than normal. And -- like we did. -- I was I was up starters I didn't do much -- Know. I'm plead the fifth on the other end because I don't know what sport I apologize for the weekend to complete. What that feels yesterday. That's what I did there. I know somebody if I don't know that you yeah. But that's my answer but the I actually asked field and Floyd and I hit the water like. I should need to talk and whatnot like -- and and I missed a with.

Honestly honestly not don't -- don't want a lot come on dale. -- line and and you know I love me some some you know to Terry Francona. Sounds shall I went. --

Yesterday. That's what I did there.

I love -- but but honest to god and and you know. The -- the same why he doesn't want -- and by the way I liked the way he does business. I think it's the right way to do business. Just don't don't play picture -- game here.

Not play play the straight game with me because I know it's a game and and anybody who's who's really even if even if Terry Francona tells you. I've met with CC sabathia and he wants to be a Red Sox. I wouldn't believe it's. And why would they tell you what they're gonna do so it's all a game and going to be out there and and and nobody's going to sign at least be entertaining.

Magic Terry Francona is a grown man he's got a white piece that kids. You know he's got a very good career and he has to -- to Theo Epstein. Tonight and this -- I just got to know what to say tonight and I don't know but I think that makes a lot of sense -- you're you're. You're not trying to do about you know two with three different versions of what your team did the same another word -- if -- says -- no Tito you didn't meet with right. So goal line. Yes I. I think that puts him in an -- or does not not lie to say -- and meet with. He's I know. Not to my knowledge. And if they that's a lot did you meet with them I'm not going to talk about that next question and that's fine okay so that's why I said okay you know I don't not to my knowledge is trying to figure out.

What the organizational stance is that the same reason dale this is avenue -- the same reason. That before -- the past couple years. Bill Belichick wouldn't allow his coaches to speak and Bill Parcells would allow his coaches to speak because we're going to have one version. In we're going to stick to our story not -- let them linebackers coach of the second secondary coach introduce some doubt to the media sort of poke holes in our.

So you know hobby handled it you can't talk. He blocked well now that's not put in a position where he feels -- IR capitalize and that didn't have to tell the -- he'll -- not to my knowledge -- ago about this one and this is Eminem like you with a quote from Theo -- You're really it's up -- out you are really got to come out of this with. With a better understanding with the -- tried. -- says I think a couple of players we have some interest and are close to making a decision. And some players we your interest in don't seem to be in a rush. I'll let thank you very much so. He he talked. -- into anything. And liked and you can't expect you to talk because they ask you to view because the the baseball writers from mafia. They they want they want to controlled everything they wait. We we need to get the information to the fans. Don't snub the fans being there for us when we come that are writers meetings that you must be available available and you know it is if it's Bob Ryan. Hoping to accomplish here but -- battle against -- what do we what do we -- what was the -- isn't the answer was right on -- You requested to speak with me. It everything but. Your colleagues that I should be available every now and then and makes sense. Of course it makes sense.

Dammit I you'll have to talk to ask you talked to me I've refused to tell you when he -- but I'm here. Exactly what. Makes sense the 'cause they asked that talked to one. This because you have to talk -- okay you're saying you have to talk. Urea. Going to tell you anything.

So you make any easy. You know what I'm not going to tell you anything anyway so it makes sense you be with the writers know that but they ask for me anyway now.

By your colleagues to be made available so consistent as regular as possible and now suits Oakland -- only Petrova eager constituency. Let's hope that the rumor is not true that you.

I Timmy -- dealt -- Salinas -- jail they these guys most of them have been around for along time at least a decade. Some of them a couple of decades some of them. A few decades. They know how the game -- played. If if they want to play that game and say you know feels not available we need to talk to.

And again no matter you know Theo Epstein darkening -- fewest or. Got to find it got to -- on down now -- go somewhere else if white gold and exactly my point once I don't ask for a I don't play the game.

And if you're Theo I don't don't placate them -- okay I am not knots and anything now but I'm here I mean it's just -- and in and and by the way Bill Belichick takes it to you know new and exciting heights the them. Juvenile missed his word and I don't work here you know and then. That eat I I sit there many times for example and sometimes his Wednesday press conferences but. Almost always his Sunday press conference after a loss.

I'm thinking why are we wasting anybody's time he's not telling you anything right he's not going to give you. Think why you hair.

I mean it after about a hard question I'm staring at Patriots fifth quarter on my TB sent to school justly.

I think it's obvious he's not talk and it's obvious you're not get anything why would waste everybody's time.

The bear poked the Bears if you'll explode. That's what it is now if that's the recent Purdue when it it's a pretty. Smelly Reeves or -- maybe he'll say something you know it it's a story if he's. If he doesn't answer your question that he is if he's very short and he's snapping at people I guess that's the story too. People want to see that story that he doesn't like to lose young.

You heard it here first Sports Radio has learned. Maybe -- handle losing so well and that the bulletin to what just what you're watching how does the handshake those -- by and I'm about to call you up though so why do you watch.

Always watch -- exactly. That's why it's rare because despite the fact that you know what's coming. People like you still watch what you say it's a new splash at the bulletin your being sarcastic yet.

Sit there and watch like everybody Alley for Matt Cassel c'mon or you wait he wants to come on it now that you didn't watch it when they would have depressed. And people like you watched and you liked starting Truman as did you put in -- column next question. Will take equal open up lines you guys in we will -- check in Vegas.

To took it took me away from my my my point my point was the -- yes -- I have several arts. My point was initially. That I like watching this because. I'm convinced. I'm convinced that this interest in CC is sincere. I don't understand why the probably logic or the -- prevailing wisdom is that. This is just a charade to drive up the pleasure.

Rates not the right or or this is just and I was used know what that the race I would use his due diligence. That's in my opinion that's all that was due diligence is due diligence. You know what at least we can say we sat Roman we talked on. You know and and let I would meet -- every free agent out there and and I think in it's like it's like when when ballot -- interviews kids before the draft. Including interviewing -- that he knows he's never going to act. That he not that that aren't going to be there Democrats say this is why it's more than due diligence Bill Belichick doesn't do. Bill Belichick apple -- art exhibit but but right so they have to do with the scouts -- it. At times a coordinators do it the bill politic is not going to waste his time talking to.

The the fifth corner from Illinois. Knowing that he's not gonna draft him. You talk to us optics and Josh mcdaniels and a time when talking to the if we're talking about. Free agent high profile free agents that due diligence means. At least -- but the interest level let my my point is if it's somebody they're really interest that in. Then they'll bring him Bill Belichick -- in this case Theo Epstein and John Farrell and Tito Francona have too much to worry about to do due diligence. With CC sabathia they're talking to -- away from oh away from that the media at another casino. Their interest -- and they shouldn't be interest what do we reached the point. And Boston where we think all the pitching staff is also.

Oh I didn't I didn't say that. I don't -- it those -- I'm glad I think I don't sincere interest in pitching. Not CC's about why because. I think most of their free agent money. Is go to -- first baseman who played in Anaheim last year. I think -- then going to add to the pitching as well but they've got one primary target but it doesn't work out we gotta have plans BC DE. It's how they should operate. I don't think I don't think there's signature. Where it's CC sabathia side. I don't think they have any intention of signing how'd you how do you think he's he has I don't know where -- 4821 when so he's actually but did that -- that.

Okay a 27. Year old pitcher. Who has thrown 200 innings three times in his life. Who is who has been very productive throughout his career. Hasn't cy young. Has made a few All-Star team is left hander has pitched in the American League. Why not. Six years under 40000001. That's what that's offered cities -- Maybe it went pitch for the Yankees maybe I don't blame.

By the -- is twenty. I would want to play there --

Michael the only thing I'd get like that that is. I'm more comfortable -- the burial.

He'll be 29 Angel. I'm twenty I what world pitcher. In July. Right who you're gonna have to give six years to -- think I think that's -- the due diligence is about by the way right if you find out he'll sign a three or four year deal all of a sudden things changed neagle meant. Maybe I am interest that this is an organization that outside of Daisuke Matsuzaka. Has shown no interest in giving long term deals to pitchers. And in his case he was a lot younger than CC sabathia purports to be. -- this is from the United States of America keeps saying what he purports that he just hasn't looked. Back it -- It's like your -- Julio Franco. Julio at least from the Dominican LC seats from California. With 28 will take a break and outwardly wear it well India things happen get to the -- And and we got a lot more get to I'll tell you exactly who I think the Red Sox have been assigned who they're going to come home -- maybe not from these meetings which end on Thursday. But who will be in that clubhouse in Fort Myers. When they hit there in February will do all of that now we will check in. -- a body Alex spear in Vegas just a little while as well dale and -- Sports Radio W the.

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Mut and Lou talk about Steve DeOssie's appearance on the Big Show and his explanation why he was at a Giants pep rally.

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