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Wed, 3 Dec 2008|

D and C opened show talking hockey...really, thanks to Sean Avery's comments!

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  1. Rodney Harrison's14:53
  2. Wes Welker0:13
  3. Plaxico Burress17:30
  4. Dallas Stars3:36
  5. Ryan Clarke0:14, 5:46, 13:07
  6. National Hockey League0:25
  7. Gary Bettman3:06
  8. hockey league20:40
  9. Mike Pereira5:32, 6:07, 10:40
  10. Chris Rock10:08

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Let me see if I get this right I think backwards world the NFL is telling Ron Borges and anybody who will listen. That the hit on Wes Welker by Ryan Clarke was legal. On time within the rules and not deserving ugly. Fines suspension or penalty for that matter. And the National Hockey League things those comments caught by a hockey player yet deserve an indefinite suspension I don't know I resign. I don't get -- of an important in my mind yet. Anything -- any indefinite suspension after suspension for saying sloppy seconds or somethin' that we can even play and the manner I. Didn't even. In the news I want to -- dirty words that said that before an air about been suspended. All of minus slow. If you can bet you start suspending hockey players for crude comments there it looked like -- who have only nobody thought I'd try.

I have two goalies out there are no players. It is I heard it I laughed I said. Why can't we give players like this and that's what the Bruins need they need a guy who certifiably insane and I like. Watch and listen. This guy Avery because. He seemed like one of those guys who isn't fake -- I mean initially when I heard from the crazy things it needed. I thought maybe he was one of those guys put an -- and trying to get attention. -- a touch -- the -- here in the in the Dennis and Callahan Pamela yeah. Would you agree that he's genuinely nuts right. I mean he's like Billy nuts in a different way yeah anyone who thinks Billy's thank and it doesn't know believe that's correct I mean he's genuinely. Out. And in this is to an end of that first you'll I don't know why he had like call the media over the Sabres of -- insisted in -- shape.

Things -- was born we don't mature team yet I think call the multi talented he didn't didn't go to him call in this was at the skate in count all the stars. -- here's the bite yet again. You know what Indy.

They have -- that I grew -- Canada. I just want to comment on how it's become a common thing in the and it's known for guys to fall in love with mine sloppy seconds. Offensive but. Enjoyed into.

That. Locker room at it this say. Tuesday. -- it Tuesday in Calgary escape. That morning skate in and he -- ago. I'm bored I'm bored everyone's board let's let's shake it shake things up a little and a it's because it was the -- the list -- the -- got older. -- always want to like they -- beyond -- I could see why. She would be attracted to him he's he's just that -- our thoughts. And he's he he he she likes to play the field.

I guess so I guess so that Gary Bettman has suspended Avery indefinitely pending hearing at the league offices. -- that everybody in appropriate public comments not pertaining to the game. -- stars owner Tom hicks. And and also talk about the discrepancy between what owners and management say about their players it really mean. Says I completely support the -- it's a decision. To suspend Sean Avery had the league not suspended him the Dallas Stars would. This organization will not tolerate such behavior. Especially from a member of our -- that we hold our team to a higher standard. And will continue to do so you gotta be kidding me. -- well that makes our stars that's it's what it takes some time. For to repair the damage with in the stars' dressing room it's a situation have to address when that time comes. -- come back the damage in their dressing room yet he was suspended missed the game and that's going to number games two on the road trip. I don't think he'd he'd be suspended -- he thought it through. But I thought that from the of he might be offended you us. Yeah my spot -- not a very disrespectful comment players had him and his team it's him -- like everybody -- that's what's great about it here that -- up the goalies as we expect out of it out of him like we have all year Marty Turco said you know they show continues his own -- his own will now. So there's so that the -- sloppy seconds. Gets the an indefinite suspension indefinite yeah and and and being thumb medals second millimeter away from -- stunningly. Yeah is all well and good with the national -- yup yup yup and I don't know. I mean I give up. --

I'll give board discredit the disease defends the hit he he turns department Pereira who defends it. But neither of them says oh yeah you you don't like you picked him it was -- your Willis c'mon be man and soccer mom. At least that in gold there he broke down and analyze it and and explain why it was legal. And why it was a good hit. I still disagree. In this is the subject -- part it was late it was late. I don't care what they say I've seen it fifty -- seeing it as often as Mike Pereira has seen it. The hit was late you sell you want heated launch weekend launched by the way the most interesting point in boards columns -- is legal right.

And what -- in point of that is the official who spoke to Ryan Clarke. On the field after the hit when he threw the penalty explained to them you can leave your feet you can't launch so apparently. I obviously don't know the rules because I thought you could I wanted to apparently the official threw the flag. Doesn't think you can by the way my errors as you are unable to launch a lot of people think it's a file to leave your feet the NFL vice president of officiating Mike Pereira said yesterday from New York. Quote watching is not a -- there's nothing in the rule book that states that at all it's a misconception. That people out. But the least of which would you want to -- if Rusch right in this defensive back you can leaguer to do that that's why through the.

By the way this was at heart police crew again -- area -- hell of a year -- big boy I probably. Maybe should stop lifting and stats that he that he maybe the rule book and some video. But you know what the there was no great objection to the flag. Flag. Mean they view this do you sense but it bitch. Greatly because it was so obviously the penalty was a late hit you can't tell me. At that bull was in play the ball had hit the ground balls was not. -- is not making a play on the ball it was -- should Welker slowed up and turned his head probably not. And -- just makes that point Welker. Made a mistake by letting up.

It was a mistake is that a mistake. Anyway well McDougal planned football television to get the ball was not catch you you you yeah yeah well up. You slow and he Welker led more than Staley did the yeah I mean Welker clearly let up -- the it was late and and he wasn't trying to make a play on the ball in what is the term -- necessary -- exactly exactly isn't that's perfect that's why. That's why it was an appropriate -- spot because the wording of the necessary. Roughness right and I don't think anyone integrated objection to visit to the penalty but still think it was a penalty that was late in the it was a necessary and a -- was making -- play and the ball. It was a deflected gap and then hit the ground. Which means it's dead. Right unemployment in the was let alone. We know we don't know you never know when the whistle blew when exactly win the whistle blows. You know look what this agency that -- the afterwards -- great and they they board late with a whistle the refs screwed up in many ways. And and decide that. I'm -- It was hard to hell when the whistle blew. Welker stopped -- the Welker stuff for recent stop could play it was the ball was emperor.

Is unhappy with what you've been officiating crew did he said Tom. Officials are told err on the side of safety that was a tough call to make it and I love this. It's read this again and slow so. In the actual it was in a penalty but we're glad the call the panel yes the actual hit itself is probably okay. But the officials are told to hear on the side of safety -- does that mean bold. Ron Borges quote that was a tough call to make in real time. But we want to lean towards safety the rule clearly states if you don't leave with your helmet it's not a final. But we threw the flag and I'm happy we did. Because I think we need to do it went in real. Time what -- up what I love this it looked like the cleaver type it but it wasn't. Yeah what was once you do this this all this out if -- boy.

Just talking to assistant coach them retired official some. It just happened to be observing the game. That's -- that he's talked to the vice president of fishy. Vice president of officiating tells Ron Borges. That it wasn't a penalty but we're glad they called the penalty -- it looked like a look like a penalty. I mean it is unbelievable that this NFL and TDs all hopeful. All controlling entity. Has such lousy officials and in one goal and should be full court what do I mean I don't know it doesn't seem practical. To be full time -- seems ridiculous when these guys study how does it all -- overall yeah what does it Chris Rock Hartley going to do to spend all the time in the weight room. But with some Monday read through Wednesday read the rule book on they either don't know what they're doing I mean they don't know you liked it that the NFL has all the basis -- all the t.s crossed all everything pick they don't know what do you do. The head of the officials or vice president of this year x.s. It wasn't a penalty. We're glad they called the penalty. That's absurd. What is that Mike Pereira is that a penalty or not idea that you think. You explain everything and I got bush watching was penalty dislike the officials. And most fans the penalty the announces. -- launching was against the rules. Hell they told them. -- in the during the game he's on it because you left feet all right mark afterwards said. I know how to putt but otherwise. It's shortly how I don't leave my feet to make a guess what ride you don't remember that forget that dropped the Bible. So all the people who -- launching yourself was the -- pilgrimage they say that open and Wimbledon. Penalty that he launched us dead head aren't noted that I heard the term -- we watched launch slot -- a launch watches. So now he tells us now my -- says -- guess what after years of thinking watching was against the rule out against the rules. He tells Ron Borges tells all Boston Herald readers. -- okay. And then in the same interview he says want to it's okay it's not a penalty were glad they called the effectiveness. In high school football in that did this in the reconnect and -- or -- in my AA would have some explaining to do. -- fifteen yard penalty was called it shouldn't have been called but they're glad it was called the NFL. It's like. Finding out that you know. NASA didn't know you know what goes -- rocket boosters all. Or to know those tools can actually pull away. You're supposed to know these things -- the NFL -- Mike Pereira. I was expecting -- borders in have you ever. He's in the clear everything else is its kind this kind of ambiguous. -- I still think it is ambiguous I still think it was late. And I I don't think anyone has seen a set here yesterday while on the air and watch over and over and over again and -- three different angles. It's still looks late to me and I still think that's subjective. So the official could say late hit penalty and you can't debate and argue lately -- But watching. Is black and white launching is not subjective. It's illegal.

Gutierrez here is perera trying to clarify it even more and doing yeah -- thanks Mike. Ryan Clarke. Does actually lead with a shoulder on a high hit up in the area of the neck. But he left the helmet out of the contact chorus says we knew that when you look at it and slow it down it probably was not an illegal hit. You might have to factories and that it was deflected early. And does that make it become -- late but the actual hit itself is probably. Okay. --

Do this. Your career why wouldn't you just say. It was late he deserved to flag officials go right you could still excellent watching thing. Why. Again. The he -- looks like every week. Again and throw your your officials under the bus in LC and again. -- again he could -- aegis read the quote where you could say. It was probably late he deserved to flags that he didn't deserve reflect but -- in the flag and we're glad regretted it.

That main -- Clark helps -- throw the official under the bus when he's talking about the play itself is it might -- job. I'm glad to be out there having to find another way to take care my family. The ball got tipped but the official told me I should not have left my feet. That is hard to believe yeah official the actual game officials. With the NFL watching these illegal in that it's not that. Rare a penalty if it's called the line yet hasn't yet why isn't -- next question keeper. We sure Cabrera knows that's -- had to buy less cars were and it's a good quite possibly official knows the -- Mike Pereira doesn't.

And he's and it shouldn't that be a memo sent to every player clarified that he wants it's okay out of their guys like retired. Right now Rodney Harrison's Angela. I was little -- You be kidding me watching. Is legal the next thing you can send memos like. Holding that that's a bench that that's it it's actually okay yeah that's actually okay dropped ball opting we will call it looks -- but. First say okay. That's okay. Yeah I passed -- out it's a lot let's clear up some basement schemes okay okay. Oh looked bad though were political -- liked to hear from -- again political career thinking yeah -- was against the rules. The hundreds of who thought it was against the rules and we learn from my room. The Ron Borges that. It took cores. Today we don't Foxboro talking every single Patriot defensive back what do you think the rule is launch. The girl the story that war -- might do Gregory. On board 2. You don't have any help you think -- launch you don't need to go to Eric go to DBs. DBs maybe few linebackers and say. Did you know you know what they say to a man. It was against the rules is that ought to go to the now they Wilson well how do you expect. Anyone to -- I knew you could launch. They watch games like we do it's the month I gave him. The other games in the race here the announces that John Matt thinks it's against the rule Tony Kornheiser. Is okay is -- possible that. Everybody else's -- Cabrera right that's a good question I mean watched every.

Defensive back every linebacker every announcer every observer every fan everybody who plays the game everybody who -- and by the way the official on the field. Flag. All things watching is illegal. My personal one last.

That's a good point at Venus is an -- secret. Life partners what we're allowed my. You tell and -- getting the bugs today NC. I mean these veteran officials. -- here he's in June 27 he is greatness that pujols. Of them that have no idea -- didn't -- that he thinks it's it's nice and this year now thanks Mike yeah this year. And these mean public guarantees under -- you can play right now. It's in the announcers have -- veteran mad types of peer group that it he launched against the rules. And nobody out there right now Plaxico Burress is hoping somebody asked Mike Pereira about -- off the leg. People I think there's a misconception. You'd think it's old. But we're not -- actually in the rule in the rule that you make a good point but the officials and I don't see it before I'm like march April may June and -- again. To.

They've learned the rule book based stay in shape they look at game all too well I think to. Pitchers take three months off definitely don't think him host Eagles to but -- basically three months and they let the athletes have I'm off they should have time off as well full time that -- you bank vice president or whatever he has bodybuilder professional body but whatever does steroid deals steroid dealer. Sick in the back in the locker room with the GM could be better prepared if you work working forty hours a week as an attorney Eric -- I don't have no I don't usually serve.

There's just too much down time is going to be so maybe it's in the middle between. Obviously it in my purposes. There's nothing in the rules to somebody just assumed it was in the rules the rules this in the -- pistols yeah each yeah. I mean they're too busy being asked to read the rules and you're making a one flight. One long flight get the read the rule book somebody read them all read the rule book cited somewhere in the area was just -- rule. And let's Alex W changed suits like a thirty year rule on -- Well if she felt it act of -- for cry about it changes -- coach -- so little hold it hold it changes in the -- he's okay with. You're thinking that a lot of things okay. Belichick knows. That's a good question dissecting launching is illegal it's a good column and I think he's -- in this indictment. Charges I thought it was illegal. I thought it was legal on three levels and now just that is legal more on late and I I don't question that term in necessary roughness. Isn't unnecessary roughness and what is. Now is. Why don't they get that arm. Because those sits at my -- next -- is actually no such thing is another -- the and it now looks clinical element and you know and Borges is right according to them. It's okay it's okay to articulate guy and a ball hits the ground agers aren't that could go at bat -- and that's a -- that's wrong. And if it was. You know if somebody. From Pittsburgh. This was a crucial play. He -- who was thirteen and when the -- yeah it was critical play. Would someone from Pittsburgh would Mike Tomlin over the -- and enough with the Ryan Clarke. Which he said and he want teams okay Charley casserly knows -- it's good -- bad. You don't don't know he'll tell. You know they'll -- title pretty old for example is that all of us quiz if he doesn't know all right opening yeah well well well I don't know I should know. And hockey league in the guys on the field with the stripes and apparently the don't body. But -- is probably don't know what you think you know and launched yourself kid in and Ryan Klesko and it would beat them -- this is how we mixes live yeah. When he should he know. Eat the funny though physically can't do it going to figure out how to tackle about watching myself. Rules which in my prayers he rules -- 1. -- wrong about what. -- announces the media the fans the players the refs. So we've wrong about like maybe maybe you don't need yards. Maybe it's only nine yeah looks like and -- does anyone actually measured that -- between nine and then it's injury. Alright I Charley -- 2 o'clock or your phone calls a pro sports.

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