Tue, 25 Nov 2008|
Adam Schefter from the NFL Network talks MVP, Matt Casell and Josh McDaniel's next coaching stop
Related Audio:
Head coach of your Patriots Bill Belichick joins the Big Show for a long-form update on the Patriots comings and goings this off-season.
Charles helped break down the game of Julius Peppers and the rumors surrounding him coming to NE
Schefter tells John and Gerry that Julius Peppers will NOT be a Patriot this coming season
Chris discussed the possibilities of Julius Peppers being traded to the Pats
Automatically Generated Transcript (may not be 100% accurate)
Welcome back our 3-D NC because of the Thanksgiving holiday Thursday this week becomes Tuesday meeting. We'll talk with Doc -- at 9 o'clock in different from the NFL -- Adam -- after right now good morning out of how are you. Good morning -- Jerry happy Thanksgiving you guys never will be out there. And do you are you working the Philly Arizona game. I kept -- headache Thanksgiving at home and I don't know how long you're used to. Is credited it. Sure lose it and you've been hanging around football coaches do on that hey look -- the -- first what is important jobs will Matt. Light be suspended by the league.
Well spend it well I don't think it's a suspension but I can't speak totally insane I don't know that. It's Tuesday morning. I'll say this if you don't hear about it suspension today. You'll not be suspended -- not happen tomorrow so just -- That my guess I get I'm just guessing on that particular point so I don't know exactly rules say I know what the league reviewing it. And -- will -- do you think you are suspension.
No hell no yeah I applaud -- did -- and let's face it the game was chippy. Not his fault the proudest moment came off what do you suppose that often welcome to what is supposed to back up -- take advantage the only edge.
My guess -- part -- in order but no suspensions but it wouldn't be the first sort of raw.
Only one fan didn't enjoy that. -- Azteca well.
Panthers played always like. They're like fighting in hockey -- kind of concept.
Three stooges moment I'll handle Larry's -- like -- on top of that the fifth as opposed to punching last year came out as well that is true that hey we you're information -- you are in fact. Fountain. You need any help here because on this station in this town there's so much confusion about Matt Cassel situation he's going to be an unrestricted free he's going to be hot. Does anyone on the free agent market and the other QBs -- Warner and Garcia. And and Collins old guys old.
Yeah more water Collins Garcia Orton.
He's number one of the lowest at least now he's got five games keep up the space and then he'll be number one on everybody's wish list. If the Patriots want to gets in the not going to keep a month convince you don't keep him and say you're back now map in the ghost that probable. Texas team in the playoffs they want to get something for him out of they go about doing that.
There would be in my mind only one win at it make more -- in his book my my guess should be you would have to franchise in. -- tune of fourteen million dollars. And then once you franchise and you'd think -- ago. Trade him to another team but. The risk you run area there's not another team which would make a deal for him which I like -- leader already. If you view my and I get beat -- you want because. Of the money involved. And you have to deal him so let's just say this franchise and franchise in. -- unfortunately it doesn't make it. -- and trade his rights to another team.
Can't they make that dealer at least Lou you know in the and they start the discussions conversation. Before franchising and -- Could they do and now I mean you could talk to another team. Gauged the interest in the team ago. We'll offer you whatever second and fourth round pick in new franchise him and after we acquired him we'll hammer -- long term deal.
Well I think the probably that is you're looking at teams Soviets acquiring him was just -- last year okay. San Cisco Detroit in the city. And Minnesota. Oh look we're happy that list they're right yeah. -- ratio of one of those teams might have. Coaching -- front office change yeah. So how could somebody go ahead India persona -- literally you know they're going to be there.
the deadlines February something right nineteenth or some. --
Something in that range I have it in my office right now but I'm.
At least two weeks after the Super Bowl. I don't think the timetable. Is going to be in and an obstacle that you can overcome. You do you make a deal -- Verbal deal with somebody. Franchise him and trade him and then the new team can sign him to a long term deal correct they can. Tear up that -- one year franchise and give -- long term in a six year eighty million dollar deal.
Correct they can do whatever they won't and they might even be from not mistaken where. He signed. In offer sheets. With the Patriots and again and it chicken is more but he cited the offer sheet says these -- actual contract. The Patriots trade that contract to the Lions the Vikings forty now wherever given may be.
At a posada but the appetite for this kind of deal let's just say the Vikings just make the conversation -- you if Minnesota Vikings would you not be more encouraged -- or more willing I should say. To trade for Matt Cassel as opposed to roll the dice with -- unproven college senior Sam Bradford pick out -- that you might draft to to take you out of your quarterback doldrums that you have would not be preferable over any college senior.
Well Asia and Minnesota Vikings when Donovan McNabb the most preferable right now.
I'm not so sure now where I'm also sure -- Cassel.
I don't know I think they've done that -- preferable right now Tutsi led Missouri no -- we -- with Minnesota that would be an isolated example I think McNabb will be preferable to Minnesota I think most of most of the people would Cassel be prepped well. I think it but we will in Minnesota we're telecast so there aren't Jack Cassel would be preferable over rookie where. I think Cleveland Browns two years ago when -- third pick in the draft what Beckett did study every quarterback top two quarterbacks taken in every direction 1970. And I think -- there was a 60%. This rates. So that means -- for every Donovan McNabb and Tim couch and Achilles Smith -- atop the draft. Basically. Only two inside naked protest but don't. So it gives you an idea what you're looking at in terms of drafting -- rookie out -- hitter Rickey you're set there but. The Patriots have shown that somehow. This more teams so life seems to come up with quarterbacks in the later rounds they did with Tom Brady they've done it again with Matt Cassel. And I looked say that I guess is really just come on -- scenic and it's almost like the Tom Brady succession plan without Brady came in initially. And at a very conservative game plan very simple attack and then as -- where. As -- gained more experience they opened up the offense for him and I would think that the Brady. In castle -- charts from their rookies Europe almost identical.
Yeah and while people of analyzed his growth and admired his back to back 400 yard games and look at him as you know the rising with a bullet on the charts of of quarterback lust for other teams. I'm wondering at what point or will even happen. Where people will say but you know what he's a system quarterback will -- naysayers come out of the -- work between now and February whatever Adam.
Well you know if you assistant quarterback and people that argument. You know what and I think just came up there we -- for the goes Parrish Josh mcdaniels bring this system and put back together right. So it that's your argument and that's your. Casey inspect Cassel both bring the system to new York City College taking care of the Detroit mindset that the gesture recruit to combat the mcdaniels special ticket -- really want -- publicly purely.
Pioli mcdaniels -- ticket to Detroit.
One M let's split the entire. It's great organization to.
Now check would take hostages at that point I don't think he would. Take that line.
Do you feel that I don't.
Could find ways Bill Belichick. It league Peter King guarantees that mcdaniels will be one of the guys who retired. You.
It's that I knew how -- don't remember -- so. You know avenue I don't remember going into the --
Your right now the whole week we come -- an opening just that we went to the team's ten. It wears you most likely to land.
Public debt debt debt that's that's a tough one that's a couple of again I Gillick say this that he go back Gillick every years in 1990. There have been an average of six to have a coaching change per year. And you can always bank on thirteen every two years last year there -- that those either -- nine this year they're already been three St. Louis Oakland. And they're just so those three runner Pete and so I would say we're looking at minimum six this dusty didn't. Somewhere 69. Where Josh mcdaniels windup will be what I would guess would be the best situation or in -- when he finds most appealing. --
Anyway -- look it -- Ohio something good Cleveland and Cincinnati will both have openings.
B I don't know I don't think his senate ever open -- I don't think -- they inevitably I think that Marvin Lewis is too much time but his contract I think for the first time yet to wonder now and we've never had this conversation either. How do these economic times factor into whether owners will keep coaches are not going to be years in their contract. Right. I mean more Lewis kept pictures cheers -- in his contract and you read it -- look in his contract in these times. Our NFL orders is wealthiest many of them are are they going to be -- could just. Eight and swallow and throw away millions of dollars I don't know.
As long as were in the habit of making listed it lets make an MVP list with five games to go -- out a breeze Marvin -- on there are removed or add anybody you'd like.
Remove. To me. Drew Brees. And I say that because I can't get it -- a guy had a last placed team I just can't do it and I don't see the Saints. Finishing anywhere any other place the last -- division so I'm I'm not over Drew Brees and -- great SC has he had as and it could receive their veteran.
If -- throws for 5000. Yards -- be breaking Marino's record.
I don't care date secondly we get my vote. But they have it now they make around a -- guard spot and and some help pull it out BA you know I'll definitely have -- the cup molest. How valuable could he be if you can bring him in the playoffs.
You add anyone you can -- Favre.
I have you here again we gotta get my -- take Cold War. Carlo also was unfazed by the way to break Dan Marino's all time single season passing record. I would put. Booker and medication there. Eli and -- About that -- Chris Jenkins inept.
Yeah that's what Chris calls were says that you -- and those guys not going to win MVP.
No I don't think so but it certainly you know what else. If the Minnesota Vikings can -- to win that division we're jumping they came with some of their players facing suspension. Adrian Peterson will be -- there's.
You were where you front row center for Pittsburgh -- Cincinnati.
Are we added I guess.
Do Pittsburgh's number one across the board defensively. The Patriots have this week Patriots are banged up does that Miami game was just them. No real blood -- what what do you think Pittsburgh is legitimate. Like. Best defense in the NFL. Just got to the statistical thing they.
Oh illness that's sick Dick LeBeau there's defensive coordinator. Is a Hall of Fame quality kind of coach and you're talking about the great deep into much in the game. Dollar check in there as is Dick -- I mean he's that good and that smart -- his deep benches are always that effective. And that physical and Beckett game on Sunday that I am really focusing I mean really --
Patriots carved them up last year and they kill them and Brady had his way with them. What's different now.
My guess is -- it is not going to say it's --
Think you're wrong that he says he said. He said that. Your theory is that they asked me again I'll say the same thing. Where the number one deep Smith told the Indiana is that we play like we've been playing and offense comes around as a good game and -- click on all cylinders we're gonna win the game. Who started just off the Patriots again and his office.
Oh yeah he got that paper our shots you've heard me I'm he's and -- today but. My second question what the panic at Indiana gazette.
It's. That Indiana Pennsylvania.
That.
Okay well that's amazing that he would say that -- And what's different base. You know cash so. Again he. Is going to keep in the last two games I think you what you do it over time Norris came duty is great defensive end. I'm not questioning him up on the on the believer I think he's tremendous I think he can get the prick like you just want to see -- big settings right in my.
I had two big settings in his last 2400 yard games yeah Jaret and there and won one. -- well but -- they lose the game of the Jets because that Matt Catholic you're right it's a big test in the field if he beats Pittsburgh --
This big deep -- big Turkey event. And and again he's had so many tests any proven so many things. And the situation -- almost along the line if they go out and win the game began 2417. And Matt Cassel throws for 225 and no picks. You know say -- After the Pittsburgh I mean solid big guy -- I think that now already but it just. Further validates everything we've -- look. It's a week to week week and you get tested every week and get assessed and analyzed every week and if for some reason was put it the other way. The Patriots don't play well against Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh and sit there and really slowed down Matt Cassel. People this rule. It may be like hitting it got to get to top brake deep bench at all. Questions can be raised right. Okay you guys can be talking about a month they right.
Yet. They album or let you go I'm sure you're aware that the big theme now in New York circles would Jets versus the Giants in the Super Bowl yeah hey we always say to the network would love that metric or not love that matchup with the network like New York versus New York. Network in general but this -- your network.
The -- NB CW bush you wouldn't be keeping up with an all New York Super -- yeah I guess should be yeah I think that they would I think look -- but. It's a lot about quarterback -- and Brett Favre an issue -- you taken any time right. Did you finish -- bowl champions. Trying to win back to that you'll take any that I I know that. That again like that would make to certain people in your area roll up and and -- Dunkin' Donuts in the morning but. You know it to me it's it's an appealing interesting match up and you know it. They wouldn't -- Super Bowl and you double -- by injuries yet -- collected Jersey --
Right right and Springsteen halftime. So I guess that would mean the AFC and NFC Jim Duke game would have to be on separate days.
And not less New York beats Tennessee in Tennessee is Tennessee if it -- the divisional play -- it almost AFC championship. So New York would have to. Suppliers and keeping an arbitrator right now. Odd -- record right now I I think. It would not surprise me if the AFC championship game is. Under the two options New England versus the Jets are New England versus Indy.
That's nor -- at the Jets I think it's about destiny these two teams meeting.
We'll evaluate we've got surprise you that -- get that get a day I bracket totally seek. The Jets Patriots -- championships and I really could --
It's going to happen. Yes.
Until that happens. I don't see anybody beating the Giants in the divisional playoff so that means that that's championships Sunday would be disjointed because one game would have to be switched. Either Saturday or Monday with both your teams playing in Giants Stadium they were not built to do that on the same day.
There I don't maybe make it 1 o'clock game at 8 o'clock yeah -- They're too much private parking lot -- played him actually tested and get back you bet that place is aim Abbott's back to back days -- be typical Saturday to Sunday.
God that's easy that's easy -- I can do that. Before that would not be nearly as challenging is doing the city you know what -- They used to the same day in and turned into an event in. That -- I think -- be really cool.
Yeah like go on the -- just a free beer and -- maybe I don't know. And weapons. And they haven't hardly and I -- hardly -- ago I would be -- after good -- you have -- happy Thanksgiving we'll talk it actually.
Happy Q did you -- carry out yet. Adams after the NFL network with the doesn't know him.
Patriots punter Zoltan Mesko joined D&C to chat about being labeled the most interesting man in the NFL. He shows off his multilingual skills, who he idolizes, and his upcoming charity event.
Christopher Price joins John Ryder to discuss Wes Welker signing his franchise tender. They also discuss what a crowded Patriots receiver corps will look like once the season starts, as well as the situation in the backfield.
Wes Welker joins Mut and Merloni to discuss his current contract status with the Patriots, if he thinks he'll be at the mandatory mini camp in June, and if he can see himself missing regular season games.
Celtics radio analyst Cedric Maxwell joined D&C to chat about the Celtics lack of effort in Game 6. He discusses how Bradley has enhanced Rondo's play, the C's lack of depth dues to injury, and what the Celtics need to do to win Game 7.
Sean talked with the coach about the big Game 5 comeback, and about the team's different configurations.
Paul talks with Sean & Max about Avery Bradley's health, and about the Celtics' history with closeout games.
NESN Red Sox analyst Jerry Remy joined the guys to discuss why the Sox have been playing better since their players only meeting. He touches on how fun its been to watch their makeshift lineup play, Bobby Valentine's shuffling his roster due to injuries, and Adrian Gonzalez willingness to play the outfield to help the team.
Bobby Valentine & Joe Castiglione on a rare no-move day today in Baltimore to preview Sox/irds
Red Sox Manager Bobby Valentine joined D&C to discuss Kevin Youkilis' return from the DL. He also discusses juggling his lineup with all the injuries, Adrian Gonzalez volunteering to play the outfield, team leadership, and how the players only meeting influenced the Sox turnaround.
Bruins Defensman Andrew Ference wraps up the Bruins Game 7 loss. He touches on just how the Capitals beat them, what his thought were on Ovechkin's performance, and how Tim Thomas' decision not to attend the White House visit affected the team.
NESN's Andy Brickley joined Dennis and Callahan to discuss the NHL playoffs and preview game 7 of the Bruins and Captials.
We're joined by NESN's own Jack Edwards after the Bruins knocked off the Caps in dramatic fashion to force a game 7 showdown this Wednesday at the Garden. Jack says: Bet on the Bear!
Celtics radio analyst Cedric Maxwell joined D&C to chat about the Celtics lack of effort in Game 6. He discusses how Bradley has enhanced Rondo's play, the C's lack of depth dues to injury, and what the Celtics need to do to win Game 7.
NESN Red Sox analyst Jerry Remy joined the guys to discuss why the Sox have been playing better since their players only meeting. He touches on how fun its been to watch their makeshift lineup play, Bobby Valentine's shuffling his roster due to injuries, and Adrian Gonzalez willingness to play the outfield to help the team.
D&C discuss Lisa Salters interview/lovefest with Allen Iverson in the middle of the 2nd quater of Game 6. The boys talk about the timing and length of the interview, how broke Iverson is, and the impressive run the Celtics had during the interview.
Buster Olney joins Mut and Lou to discuss the latest on the Youkilis trade front, Bob McClure, what Cole Hamels will get in free agency, and if Hal Steinbrenner is really trying to sell the Yankees.
Mut and Lou try to figure out why Daniel Bard is no longer throwing in the high 90's.
Tim Legler joins Mut and Merloni to talk about the Celtics loss to the Sixers and what he expects will happen in Game 7.
As the news comes down that Gonzalez is playing in the outfield, we debate how smart a move this is, and what, if any, alternatives did the Red Sox have?
Former NBA player/current analyst for TNT Steve Kerr chatted with Glenn and Michael and gave his thoughts on the Celts/Sixers, Heat/Pacers and Thunder/Spurs series'.
Even with the Celtics make a nice run in the Eastern Conference NBA playoffs, watching Oklahoma City and San Antonio play has made it abundantly clear that one of those teams will likely win the whole thing. We discuss.
Kirk wrote a column about David Ortiz that Mikey didn't completely agree with and a debate ensues.
Ryder and Kirk talk about what the Red Sox might do when their injured position players start making their return to the lineup and what that could mean for the struggling Kevin Youkilis.
Ryder and Kirk Minihane are talking about Josh Becketts impressive outing against the Seattle Mariners. They also talk about the Celtics-76ers series and how much energy the Celtics will have in game 3.
MOTWU tickles Michael, Ortiz feels the heat, and the Celts get their props.
The goon croons for a lost BeeGee, and Metallica on the accordion never sounded better.
Rhode Islanders vs Schilling... and they ain't happy.
Celtics head coach Doc Rivers called into D&C this morning to discuss his team's dominating second half performance in Game 5. He touches on how the C's clicked in the second half, the character of his team, why Rondo is so special, and the keys to Brandon Bass' big night.
More from this showFormer NBA player/current analyst for TNT Steve Kerr chatted with Glenn and Michael and gave his thoughts on the Celts/Sixers, Heat/Pacers and Thunder/Spurs series'.
More from this showCeltics TV play-by-play voice Mike Gorman joined John & Gerry to discuss the personality of this Celtics team. He also talks about if the Celtics are taking this season as their last shot at a championship, what was the key moment that turned the season around, and if KG will return to Boston next season.
More from this showMut and Lou discuss David Ortiz's comments after last night's game about not getting enough respect from the front office and media.
More from this showKirk talks with John Mitchell, who wrote Wednesday that Kevin Garnett could face backlash from racist fans in Boston should the Celtics lose the series to the 76ers.
More from this show