11-12-08 D&H Opening Segment

You know it just gives the boys on the other side of the glass an opportunity to delve deeper into their video library. Pull up stuff that just makes us gave a lenient. With the all of a safe. Your honor that event Basra. It. I was -- at that as much as them laughing at what it reminds me yeah. It is -- revised that exchange. Whose arm and the coach of Florida. Mike Keenan -- oh it's all about it toward coached the seventh while all. John girl yet in that exchange he had with the Larry brooks a medium that. Made it okay. Ignored post story. Has got it. That's my -- Is not a backup running. But it makes me lap and that's all that matters okay Larry brooks was once color commentator. -- worked with on the doubles broadcasts. In the newspaper business for awhile -- the doubles was color. This is good for him because it allowed him to have some restraint and some editors well that and the fact that. Work for me it. Maybe that was the most important reasons and and his exchange with John Rollins didn't surprise me elect. You guys strictly a look at our occasional you know two guys who see things their way in. If you don't see it their way. In you you provide some resistance then there's going to be a prop to -- I can't wait I'm making short -- it.

You know what that actually don't let -- on your part speaking of restraint basket it's actually good thought on your part because we don't need to. It ourselves in more trouble and will find -- plate for a few minutes here did you hear big poppy on with the NC the smart -- not -- big topic with them. -- are are heard them from all. He was can't that is all then talked about. He has wrist injury in the limitations. By his estimation. When he was swinging the bat the playoffs he said he was about sixty to 70%. Com and as John pointed out during the course the year it's valid unit here -- make a lot of those excuses while playoffs -- He wasn't saying while like in the ball away I usually do because my wrist. But you know looking back on it now he -- he at sixty to 70%.

And always happens though doesn't mean that's with spring training for spring training is really four for from -- fan perspective if you're not going. It is really about two or three days where you gave confessions. Spring training -- confession season right so. Early so you know with David Ortiz as has done his first round of confessions are really wasn't healthy we on knew that but. We got confirmation. Josh Beckett is going to have his confession. In January or February probably February palace. And I can't believe that eight run game. I've felt like I was 20%.

You know Josh Beckett is in a lot of ways. He's Tom Brady like in this regard. Brady is one of those guys that when the season ends. He just disappears. Mean you see him in the newspapers and the in the paparazzi follow on -- which I don't hear from a Josh Beckett just goes to that. Ranching -- in Texas and says CR later. A you don't hear anything problem in the offseason. You don't get the updates you don't get the interviews you don't get me I mean there is nothing from -- season ends he is out the door policy all of -- line. Right now rob Bradford is the certainties and -- just -- WB well docomo have not tell you what it would be daddy jail he would have the scope then if we did this course once the season and Beckett gets what anybody's going to talked I'm not to say this but if anybody's part to back it was going to be rough draft he seems -- good relationship with a man. You know was getting some comments from Beckett late in the season about its physical condition it. You were reading anywhere else he's just one of those guys who just you know -- And anti like he didn't talk much during the season. And I don't mean that in an unfriendly Steve Carlton get out of my face kind of way he just doesn't talk -- just. He tells the PR guys you know all the a couple of interviews a year you figure out which ones they aren't that's it for.

It doesn't like doing interviews as to that guys like that who don't like giving interviews and they have a lot to say that aspect have a lot a lot of good stuff to say. But I think he's more with the interview process. And and Garnett is the same way to me when he gets his press conference still. Has got his -- he gets his press conferences after the games. I mean. The last place he wants to be is in front of the cameras. And microphones. Talking about basketball for some reason he just sits there looking down at the stat sheet the whole time he's revenues. -- to just make it does not all the you know -- you know those guys get paid to. You know. We take it one game at a time blah blah but when he really put the effort into it. As some thought into it he's great.

When we have talked to her eyes and he's been engaging he's been in an interesting insightful. He then went -- he loves that late last -- got into just. Nurture our listeners got a I got it in them. And I -- La. Longtime listeners first time -- they got there ego and we need all of those we can get this couple of things up that I find interesting today in. We talked a little bit about this yesterday. Ron Borges touches on it in in today's paper -- it's funny lines that -- he did have some funny lines. How much how much this hi loss signing this week. Is a little Eric Mangini Frito got you.

Oh it's perfect it's perfect for him this is something that. Yeah I mean he I don't know I don't know how effective it's going to be but if there's definitely a statement here. He -- this is a big game for the Jets he's trying to get the Patriots attention but the fact is.

I don't I don't think. Ty law's going to help them that much this week. Even the -- and let's say he's in great shape aren't in the best shape of my life. He hasn't been with the Jets all year he didn't spend any time let them -- training camp with them. Yes he knows Eric Mangini but he hasn't worked with Eric Mangini. In four years. So there's there's going to be some natural rust involved in the Patriots receivers in this the most important part of the Patriots receivers are actually pretty good. You know Ty Law on Wes Welker I'll -- Wes Welker. Ty -- on Randy Moss out take Randy Moss Ty Law and Jabar Gaffney didn't catch the ball. I want.

Take me yeah. What you just wonder and and it it seemed a little strange we mentioned mark cannistraro the post we talked yesterday. When he first wrote the story for yesterday's editions he couldn't get confirmation that Mangini had signed. Law law was telling the NFL network that but Mangini was saying we've got no announcements to make so the piece that canas -- wrote for yesterday's post was restricted by that knowledge. But even cannistraro said this seems a little weird. I mean they've got some guys who can play the position well.

I I think that's that's one part -- brings a very good point. On I'm Justin Miller. Is going on behind the scenes that we don't realize from afar maybe because. If you look at it on the surface you have a guy at the end of his career whether Ty Law thinks so or or or not. He's at the end of his career right he's got one maybe two years left. You can't -- can't envision him playing beyond next yet. And he's not rod Woodson. Rod Woodson moved from corner to safety but rod Woodson was a blazer corner with a punt returning was out all around this tremendous athlete. Who still could rod when he was playing safety yeah it and move on to safety because. He couldn't run anymore he may have lost a step but he had 234 steps to lose. Where's Ty Law was never even in his -- was never blazer. Very smart very physical corner. But you move them and they physical part of it got legislated out of the game in large part because of him -- just joking and you can still do it to a degree. But this is not one of those situations where you know great quarter moved to safety and it's a seamless transition. You look at some of those guys who have doubted and they have done it successfully for a long time. At some of the greats who played the game. Rod Woodson is one and Ronnie Lott is another playing playing Pro Bowl level corner and probable levels safety. -- I hate it -- at the end of his career whereas Justin Miller. 24 years old. Great return guy at the beginning of his career and he does it he doesn't get it as much you want him to. I just think it's amazing that you give up on a guy. At at this stage of his career for a guy -- at the end of his career.

And let's assume for the sake of our discussion we don't look it may be all football related reasons why. And I and I assume probably was why the Jets sign Ty -- but let's assume for the sake of our discussion that is this is a little got you. You know and look what we did you know three days before the the Patriots game. Does that indicate within the jets' locker room that their coach is again a little worried about this thing. I mean you go back to the first meeting the week after. Tom Brady goes down for the year. Tom Brady's down for the year Matt Cassel making his first start since high school right at the meadowlands you've got a gunslinger Brett Favre on the other side. And you couldn't beat them. I mean it is at some point Mangini and his coaches got back into the bowels of Florian -- were evident how late they they get together. And they said what do we have to do all right how we put a dagger in this this beast art here. And almost think like this is this. Some. You know going out there this week at quarterback that was starting his first game as I was I was a lot better is that it I don't I thought I can't figure out I mean. The fact that -- that -- little motivational wild -- we both find it weird the fact that they were talking about playing league tie. Three days after they sign him.

Well if you don't want it to motivate themselves I don't know. It was a motivating in New York is going to motivate Brett Favre. Is going to motivate. Darrell Revis on him.

Doesn't it almost seem a little a little panicky year on the part of Eric Mangini a little you know something. We can't eat don't stand -- guy I don't think he would ever. I don't think he would ever and ever known and I -- away testing I don't think I don't think he would I don't think he believes that either.

you look at. He is history and it's a brief history with the Jets. Last -- I mean they did not have the talent right. To compete with the Patriots last year's Patriots were just juggernaut in and the Jets were were awful. And went through a couple of quarterbacks in the back and forth between. Chad Pennington and Kellen Clemens they just didn't have last year. China is trying to change over to 34 personality. Didn't have that the guys. That he wanted to place but this year Calvin Pace and got Chris Jenkins in. As as Marquez Karros against Chris Jenkins playing great football and he knows in his back pocket. When I have my guys went 11 when we went to the playoffs.

I think I only can -- I think that there's a little sense of panic. And it's similar to the sense of panic that Buffalo admitted to after the game on Sunday but not hopeful. Where where I stand taken it 63 nick says the because you're playing and we have to beat this team. I upbeat if you if you put a desperation scale up on the wall here which is the more desperate team year. Come tomorrow night. He gets -- and Marty lost to the Patriots once. Even though there tied their ineffective game behind because -- Marty lost. You know on the desperation scale. Their way up here in the Patriots want to win they'd like to win badly. Especially there head coach wants to be quite as bad there's a desperation you know -- given the scale the hatred -- out on the Patriots don't -- relative to their way up there right but but I mean. And we have to win this game. I mean. If we lose this game where in effect two games behind the Patriot well I think and we're not going to catch.

I agree they look at it from that perspective. Sure we have to win this game party lost. It in week two but the Patriot Patriots look at it. At least from the top. Coaching wise they say we have to win this game too. We have to win. Because he knows too that built to the and I can't lose millions to Eric Mangini right can't do here. We will do whatever it -- fix the rain it it's 96 it is in the nine it doesn't matter. You can not underestimate. The the amount of public but as a boat college word on the antipathy antipathy. That. That exists between -- I don't I don't need to give credit he screwed up the first I don't first but I back in spell. -- and it's okay I got.

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Here's an incentive no I didn't I tried to I agree with you and on the hatred scale. The Patriots away all the old you know Eric Mangini -- them a lot but but I'd say but not like -- and down on out on the dental operation scale. The Jets know if they lose this thing not only will they not win they want to win in the vision not only will they not win the division I mean in the wildcard.

I don't know I don't know what that deal but this is so close in the Patriots were in this game obviously it goes seven and three and as you said they had a two game lead over the Jets. Some of the other contenders and AFC we still have to look at the Colts as a contender and -- four. So the Jets the Jets were dropped to six and four here with with six games to play. Absolutely they'd that would knocked him out of the playoff race that they drop to six and four theoretically thickest openers twelve and -- they won't but they cut so. I don't think this is for their playoff lives but it is for the division lives.

Well it'll be interesting to see. I mean neither of us can imagine how many plays Ty Law could even. Hope to give them forget about good plays as you said. You know you have this visual in your mind of Ty -- try to catch Randy Moss down the field. And at a and -- and I -- our -- you know trailing Wes Welker by five yards across the middle of the field. Or more as you said Jabar Gaffney beat him on -- I just can't imagine he could give them much it just seemed like a desperation move almost by Mangini. You know why now. Why not a week ago went up two weeks ago has this Justin Miller situation just cropped up.

Whatever it is a really -- and we we failed yesterday we really should've followed up with -- RO on on Justin Miller and just how bad. Is -- we don't follow the Jets as closely as we follow the Patriots. I just can't started about the Patriots as closely as he does the Jets but I didn't realize. That. It was at the point where Justin Miller was on the verge of being cut. In being cut for Ty Law. -- I mean I -- gives number 53 on the roster. That does seem. To make a lot of sense to. -- but you know this is this is a time for we we need to pay attention to this is not the air right now that have rejected. Is going to be there tomorrow morning and that dale is yes Armand from the reverend Steve -- this Steve's --

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I will take a look here when we take the break up in in a month at which the Celtics yet virtually no breaks. Went their schedule get a break to. You know -- yeah I mean the Atlanta Hawks come to town undefeated but the Atlanta Hawks played last night in Chicago. And the Celtics. Are are finally catching a team where they -- the team grass that on the second night. And their catch and a team coming in play in the second night in in in back to back road cities look I'm not saying it's this major brawl well -- decides everything. They don't get many breaks this month this is one of.

I would say that if the Atlanta Hawks weren't undefeated. So you're right they played last night and that's and they needed Q expend some energy obviously planning game. But they're six and.

Sure I'm not take -- away from this is just an advantage the Celtics have tonight. I'm not saying it's the deciding advantage or this this clincher is that it's it's an advantage for the Celtics tonight.

But it's interesting to see the Hawks in this position because we saw him play in that series and went seven games. And -- you you wondered in the back of your mind line. At this point and we all have to be honest about it because and that that series change the way we thought about the self. You expect them to sweep the Hawks it look like they're about the sweep them after the first two games of the series and then. A real live in BA series broke out in that series went to the limit. But you are wondering during that time. Are the Celtics really. There's really not as good as we thought they were they -- are better than we wrote their roster choke or. Our our the -- just a good matchup for them or are the Hawks. Going into the 20082009. Season. The Hawks gonna grow up. -- going to become a team that challenges the Celtics in Eastern Conference well early on it looked like a team that's grown look at the east right now yeah. They really have to deal.

Other than Boston. In the Eastern Conference I don't know what happened. At at at one point last year you were saying to yourself. Yes the Celtics are the best team in the east but there's some worthy. -- that the top four teams are are worthy of dealing with the dealing with the Celtics can't really take anyone lightly. While the tree to me and I won last night they're gone now I you know -- mean it's on Sunday night so. Philadelphia. Maybe they need to get into a rhythm or something unexpected. I expect a lot more from Philadelphia. The Cavaliers. At the best player at least they're always going to be yet but I think teams you fear right now and I know it's early. Boston. Is that is the class of the east. In Cleveland. That. -- like -- no but but in Atlanta and Cleveland there's not -- without LB to what that's what I just that -- thing. Atlanta doesn't really have a lot of teams to jump over with eight -- last year they're not going to beat eighth seed this year I'm not sure believe in them yet. But they don't have a lot of teams. To really really battle a lot of teams that can say we're better than Hawks. We can keep them that day. They're grown up team now and I say that knowing that they gonna be without Josh Smith for about a month.

We will love breakdown Celtics basketball was our regular weekly guest on Marshall Comcast sports net. The Celtics host the Hawks tonight. The Bruins visit the Blackhawks in Chicago. And with their 83 in three record on the line Aaron Ward will join us after the skate and and after the team -- so in the last hour of today's program. How will talk with the Bruins defenseman Aaron Ward. You know we we mentioned this yesterday and talked some hockey with a couple of callers yesterday. There there right there where everybody else needs to be and you know and and they still haven't really clicked yet. You've still got Patrice Bergeron and Michael Ryder trying to learn each other in trying to figure each other route. They are not offensively where they want to be and where the Bruins need them to be. So even though they're not clicking on all cylinders offensively. They're right there with -- all the best teams in the east.

Yeah -- physically fit. Totally begins. We know we did. Frustrated -- on me you know we're not know we know we get. Until it was certainly feels against the heat of the moment because of them we've played we know we did. We know we did what I went there. It's questioned went -- You know -- did brooks if I want to explain it to what. Next question and out burger place and I don't coach for your coach is talking to him. Dressing to dressing and known I don't know exercise I get into a flow I lost in the first period and it's what happens when you don't play well that's what happens you put on the outside and I lost in the first and sledge singled out to. I think what most guys locker. Good. It puts. John McClain you should ask him. Okay. I guess that's -- slam brooks and he did that's -- hit I guess. What I'm doing just the out of here that I can -- Next question.