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Hey Lenny and I dominate knowing the good -- And it you know act I have never -- believe -- this station on base and I have never heard -- more idiotic fan base in that of the Boston Red Sox. How in the world do you under estimate. Many that there is potential residents of that lineup for the Boston red spot are you kidding me first and foremost. I understand that you could have been doing a good job Jason Bay has been doing a good job.

Well isn't that -- answer right there.

Not put up as many this with a different that the difference. If you have many Rivers in Atlanta its -- about it till the green foreign spies that's very dangerous which is.

know elevate Ortiz has -- you think Ortiz will be that much better.

You know like -- and that there's that element here that people are not exploring okay and I and I know people want to talk about that that's aren't. But how much of the fact that many they're hitting behind him in people talk about them being protected or whatever is. Is that the the little element that the small element that might be an okay okay.

I don't know inside are innocent -- And it it and why if they got -- out of habit -- it every day if that's the Madison's is protect you buying in the lineup and why do you can't.

Not let them because you know I Lenny because he did they operate our preacher --

Well they are bigger I. Ortiz has been seeing good pitches he he just has been hit them I. Candidate. To pitch it around in and that.

There might be a spotted said that that would put me back that the that they might be as small -- that might just one element that's.

America moral victory if if if you know -- seeing good pitches well would it matter who's who's got a -- I didn't aren't.

I'm just saying that it might be a small element I hit -- that was the mediation not debating that I play it wouldn't be -- is. Is that you cannot under estimate his -- present when -- pitching -- into that lineup with Manny into it and Atlanta. You have to change your approach is. No wait any pitcher in Major League Baseball whenever I'm Manny Ramirez and then there -- a lot of do you have to take a different approach the question becomes how to that are both of aspect the entire. Off as the Boston Red Sox and -- what went well call that calling a debate where many wasn't up clutch hitter. I only gotten a bit but the -- he's -- I mean eighth but tonight it would the badgers. This -- plate presence in that line.

This is out with the Dodgers have been I think and I have great hitter or not he's a great -- I think he's one of the best hitter I.

Ain't done that and I eighteenth that they that they -- 98. You don't think that they could've been up possibly a lethal outside aspect I agree what about the prank -- I agree with you about that are right. But what do that in many was available during during that game that maybe -- ball right.

I don't hope you know victor Kevin Youkilis had three it's nice to to rent Jason Bay had three hits and knocked in four runs and and both those guys at home runs and we don't expect Davydenko five for five that I I runs in that game in the.

Okay again John what what their lineup quiet to Manny being traded did not Uga sit yet so when you take a bad guy put enough I poll. I can't keep them you can look at production and adding Manny Ramirez's production that specifically -- that. I mean people allowing they're very -- emotion and little --

The offense has been struggling clearly victor but. Isn't the biggest problems so far in this series been the starting pitcher.

Absolutely I agree with that as well I'm just making an argument that part of the public the Rockets thought it'd -- topic but that I think that I got a different.

Art all right repressed phobic impacted yet you -- contention -- protection for Ortiz right and a -- lineup. That line. Not as much that you think not when a guy like Youkilis is going lady's going. Yeah but it by letting it be batting a bike a not to the point is Bulls got a hit behind Ortiz that would that would yeah Manny. Got a lot of -- just man it wouldn't be any better than that recent days -- for a six --

And that's what we violently quality that we gotta look beyond that bad. What what kind of late president in what kind of take you cannot deny them any good.

I agree with a victory point out that that pitchers would be more afraid facing Manny Ramirez than they would be. Jason Bay or Kevin Youkilis out what Manny is done historically but at the same point when I don't agree with is that Ortiz will be dramatically better.

Any better I didn't make that Communists say that I think there's a part of it. A small part that it in his head I I I do believe that I'd be glad that it got back there but.

I don't think it's a it's a dramatic gap in that I'm still I still think pitchers are also careful when they're facing Youkilis and bay right now because those two with a I don't.

I -- I'd I'd put the I think it is doubtful but you you you you have more confidence. Facing a -- other players that you don't may Ramirez. That. -- wonder about the plane very small when you're facing Manny Ramirez pressed the big debate you can make a mistake it would -- admit.

you know I think. I think it babe Ruth with hitting behind now Ortiz. He would have the same numbers in this series that I did something wrong with him we know the -- system problem. -- those you know talk that he didn't hit well at that BP today and looked a little discouraged. It could be physical could be -- may be needs contact lenses may be this.

The -- department maybe but my point is ignite the importance of Manny Ramirez is flat in the middle of that lineup don't let you -- I think that I.

This wasn't pretty don't -- then you'd have a good at it.

You -- you go to the production Pedroia but that's in college as is.

The only -- Manny Ramirez.

Well you know we had to be careful about victories and I I am not -- I I agree that Manny Ramirez is a tremendous hitter and a tremendous performer. The only thing I question is whether he would still be doing that here in Boston when I hit.

Historic but too -- that brings a different argument Johnny -- a bulk.

You know what about the red.

I was different argument -- is it but it's an argument that should be brought up because that's what I would be doing that here what what he's doing and LA out of the I -- the players. Wanted to -- here.

that's the that's about it you know what that the budget topic you know what about the -- is quoting an an an eight I mean come -- I know what I'm going to defend you have seen on on that. I know they're definitely no doubt about that at least let me ask them -- contradict I don't I'll. And that the play is very is all of it's one and many up between then why did David Ortiz will -- is when many numbers.

He was the only one that won an embarrassment.

I I hear that got sort of that -- does not a game -- I don't -- played another play that the that they don't want any off the team. Okay because put -- one does not with a comfortable lead back crap please don't don't ask.

They'll believe me it wasn't just involved there was so many other incidents -- I don't.

I can't see what the opening goal to cut included Barrett ticket ask that question because that's that's the bad the logic.

It's not clearly -- about a -- it's it's not clearly the -- victor Manny just did want to even beat out -- but it.

But that that was that -- product of something that happened. Well maybe weigh in spring training that BO and demanded.

What they want to sign to a five year contract then when the season started. This was decided to like a four year extension -- I used it.

If you want to win a championship in it that's what you want to do. We definitely wanted to win a championship. It you know that this guy is what he is better than not surprising many behavior AB with a much when he won without a direct dot. He was in my when he was playing the clear that we understood that you knew that he has. Do so -- back that given them a two year extension on topic options in almost forty years and they -- that would the red -- they win what one or two more championships like.

When when these athletes get the contracts they gap right and long term contracts 357. Year. They don't say squat and they've got their daily -- okay. So you'll live with that right now -- yup by hand they kept the dull and I mean opera docent at what if yeah I'm not mean he didn't could be dead right. -- get to at a point where it's a team option correct yes we have business and what lately any way they handle it was correct.

A lot many different what you make a mistake which you make a mistake and I agree with you. When using. Logic. In a situation that illogical. You know what I understand what you're failing to it it's why it's in week you understand it -- and we all Hispanics like talking about baseball when we're talking about --

Well -- we're not -- with tiger about a very unique baseball player and I limited change and that's kinda like the weather.

Big Ted chilling I'd say on this station that is what they thought about the player option if you've got players that they're not going to make him do it about the art it was basically the -- of the clubhouse attendant. A couple of probably the playoffs it's definitely not just. Many admit that the baseball in general I think if you want it. And meet Minnie and keep them happy you gotta do what you did people when you -- that club how well you you get out of bed and -- make them happy with Emeka.

Costs are -- posted change everything.

I'd like to count on your -- got an eight when they. My grounding in what somewhat they can't I can't they kept giving -- to the given -- whether they want it done so happy that don't allow any unit on the thing that they -- you know I would I don't entity -- Peter -- able to -- and you just got to emulate it got to a point of no return with.

Yeah because they let it get bad are on base hit that. They let it get FI you know what he -- he kept pushing it he kept company -- and you know what they became what it became but the Red Sox. Now -- that many not to be axed and not people -- but it but he is what he is in the Red Sox are out but got got a problem.

That dilemma tightest what Schilling said about Manny on this station. And what happened. At the end of the season at two different items he's talking from the past I'm which is a good sauce right which we all have a suspect that. Only a guy. I happen to come out and you know a team make him out and spoke about -- on this station right. It wasn't around when it really really got -- in essence -- which Schilling was saying was. Why should we be surprised ice are now you -- know it you saw how the team just wanted him off the island. I met it's not out 25 guys regularly to evict a but that with the rays and white Francona with -- real pay the last couple weeks or even longer with man right -- improbable. Two man Miami because that manager could see it affecting his players.

Yep but listen pitted late I agree with you the point is that as as well I'd disagree with. Could have this been all for --

I don't know that you're definitely -- at center regular I have yeah.

B I think I'd he'd done eggs like that at any -- my point is that I am patient and pick what. Money -- obviously.

I did not.

Right okay so yeah I kept -- I don't much like hit -- productive -- that you know why don't we extend this guy.

It became to a point that it was just such a distraction that's like a regular I got to move onto. Here is Jim and Quincy agent. Jim hours of.

Yeah what the.

I can't say good you say not bad just say good I want to -- good --

What I apologize that I love it glad you the lap always it's just. Well there are gonna get caught -- blacks that epic back is it true that made it that spotted but it would I credit for going out -- Well one but it sure they'll be like -- like -- a baker and have a bit about not nearly knocked that they got that out we knocked off the plate have a bag but.

Yeah Bubba Clinton said that's just one batter one pitch in my just make -- rest of the guys more ferocious I mean yeah you gotta get -- yet don't have his stuff and then you're done you know -- Richard guy and think that's -- they know you don't have your staff that best I can do that you know -- do that you do that when you're going good.

And I -- the very end of the paper the other week.

I was actually surprised Becky didn't throw some of the game to just because of what what happened there in game one with the J. D. Drew in it.

I've. Every every at Q are you the -- you thought about like our.

Yeah -- that. -- that would not have changed anything in that game he just didn't have.

What now 8. -- statement is the guy you know not pocket now. It what. Are going out. They shot do you believe and it. It was the right to equal. Not. Out pretty. Well right ought that. Your blog man alone beat beat. All but. It grow and everyone -- That. That.

Policies ad now he's I think he's clearly hurt -- he's not seeing a gem. --

I like about Mike you know probably -- have -- belt light not.

None of us now -- right now I don't avoid the question. Well I don't their --

Well our tail. Lights and I like every article people all game but. Usually have a look at about politics. That record. It might get what Patriot. I I like a walk in at bat and --

It's exit well I mean I'll tell you -- that was an awful game the other -- I was just read it.

Other -- not have a audit that back yard. I thought I had that great Brady back in -- or if they get it but -- makes it go away.

I I quality -- what their pocketbook all of -- that I predictable read in the I bet that could be it is all about what impact pretty spot right.

What what's that Jim missed then the producers it's not a I let it all I have this right you're the -- and predicted that is going to -- okay. I'm ready said that before the before the seasons there -- Jen wants Dallas admit I don't like now I don't like I don't and operations Jerry Jones LE eight actually Jim let's -- what do you think Pacman Jones and I was appeared that sent to --

It can't be expelled only it -- have locked up over a lot Beckett -- I he would that I that.

Agent -- you gotta go see legally blonde.

Well what I -- what -- we -- Patriot but -- the DelHomme talked about. I don't.

Well okay I like the wages pressure over that you know you'd have a career and now radio that way.

I liked it -- what are not over apple. It might be where the end of the season nominal.

don't is that not there one aspect of like go live that failed -- Lotto though the reds are into the radio. I really -- RC immediately average net party he's not at all.

John if you let that everything I don't eat it eat out terrible.

issues and then cited Douby you'll you'll kind of update for you. Until I.

But knowing Ottawa is put the yeah I it is like what happened the other diet like.

deals by Dave O'Brien is believe as it as some other work right now but. -- Hey Jeff thanks for the call as always aren't we -- we got -- move we're up against the clock but did its job -- led to make -- here. And that's Jim yes. I think people would like you can people arguments and I doubt it. -- It's -- writer letting regulated for Mikey data the played like he should take your -- 61777. Odds are right fifty toll free 88852 fives -- at fifty quick break. And -- right back to your calls after this. But I know a message for anyone out there who was just thinking about changing. Man our world destroy your. Right destruction they're here on the WEI Sports Radio network.