Bill Belichick

After the big show what is up Patriots Monday and it's done for county with a coach until brought to you by Dunkin' Donuts America runs. On Duncan. As live as does every Monday coached Patriots Bill Belichick congratulations coach -- went thank you -- paid our inability. That it -- do that -- give a bullet -- a miracle. -- chance I think Olympic team go way. 2000 -- Q how do -- I've heard it described a lot. Today about how the Patriots just went out there and Matt Cassell just manage the game that they. Re you'll do everything in and seeing that conservative to me and we were talking about it. The course of the show public did you really change from what your normal game plan would have been against the Jets and Brady even in the game.

I'll think too much fun. Oh I want to -- those are Olympic factor in the game was that the Jets played. They -- Latif safeties and it pretty much roll over top oriented whole game and you know the one time they didn't man made a real good read on the play and and toss it up -- and we almost out of you know we we -- that touchdown that put that. Is that just signal from Randy put some -- you know recovered to a you know well yeah and and and Revis kind of squatted on -- and so instead of run and the Ralph. Right in -- he just kept Conant. And that read it he just couldn't quite get his feet set quick enough to get the ball far enough out there and you know -- is shut out with a bat anyway. But other than that they they pretty much stayed over the top of Malan and and so the place to throw -- underneath it and and on the balls a good option and you know had they come and play more wrestling give us more chances now on the field would have those. You know another -- almost there and instantly took all the coverage and so it over to Welker and Moss. And you know that was so. You know Vienna and in other two inches on the football you know -- that tipped it and for a slightly bit back soon if everything went we have right wide open. For -- 2 weeks of experience laughs and over that -- and touchdown. Yeah -- but I'm descent terms of the game plan you know when he opportunities were there again outfield we try to go to anfield when they weren't you know thought that. -- we did he would comment that a good job of trying to take what you know with the statements give an -- I'll think you'll be lobbed the ball down their carrots that's that or hit the ball.

What was Ernie. One point of emphasis what emphasis -- to -- met before. During the whole week was there any one thing that you stressed more than anything else or or two overall floss for.

Well not tickets -- situation -- of course every game we go into you want not turn a ball over and avoid negative plays in Saxon. And you know negative plays that plays a -- look Regis don't have a chance he would and penalties you know obviously want to avoid those plays but. You know when they blitz to make quick decisions get the ball out now have a couple times and some third and short situations -- you know cut the ball out to Sammy in the flatten. Dave Thomas there and fourth quarter and you know stuff like that so making quick decisions when the pressure and and and sandwich and turnovers and and you know no no problems with formations and alignments and things like that substitutions that we analyzed different. Backfield combinations. Where we two backs in the game there was a lot of different combinations of backs and so the formations and all that we're a little bit more than what they usually are on but you know -- handle that fine and so that is the issue the real attribute the safeties I think there was. They -- Mets won't do who you know and -- all I think they went against San where where that we're not a -- Moss kept catching deep balls on us you know knock on to a Kansas City didn't. I think you're up a hundred -- in the first quarter. Or what have until last year in this in the opening game -- weren't going to give many long balls malls were going to. You know make can be just on the ball make can be thrown underneath. There's a much improved team from last year the Jets him the offensive line and linebackers defensive line. In but you ransom trapped inside -- with -- would make him a couple times and look like they're penetrating to have the -- demanding get a few perhaps make some decent run. Yeah in on the fourth Cora thought running game was a good we -- some said very good angle blocks in there and Logan -- around and got a four linebackers couple -- ran against a sub defense the times answer there 34 defense. You know Jenkins as in the he's certainly a factor in the running game and he's our -- a you know block and there but you know at times we got a man and make that your took the backs ran well there and -- and and then Nimitz and deposited here.

We're special teams yesterday huge factor in the you guys always seemed to have great field position many times in jet territory. And yet they were pinned back on the twenty on a consistent basis had to be happy without special teams players.

Yeah you know was great planet the three big things is that I think you always want to try to have in your favor and every game mark. Field position penalties and turnovers and if you can get the edge in those areas. Then there's a lot of hidden yardage there that doesn't always result directly in points with a lot of hidden. In the yardage and points here and and we had that we have the field position advantage when it two penalties. On one of those that was at the end of the game that there really wasn't a big factor and and they had one turnover -- so. You know all those areas we kind of came out on top on and and -- Kevin gives a big boost in the return game. On ponson and in a steadier it is great -- on the kickoffs and one that they -- return. Mentioned down 120 -- and our plumbing. You know it was a big a plate umpire. -- Chris at 59 yarder on the sideline was an -- place so you know as they field position swing there so we we had our opportunities there of course these. Kicks on the field goals make all those field goals it was so important to so special teams that nice to --

I thought his first victory since the kickoff just looking at and TVI figured he's get the wind behind them now suddenly reverse field and he's doing the same thing is this kid got a stronger weight this year. I mean just seems to be kicking the ball better than he did a year ago.

I think it's a little bit better you know he general golf season is one of our offseason Award winners and and I think that's indicative of is his work ethic and his performance in the offseason you know it translates and maybe a little bit more like speed and you know maybe a little bit more distance. It was a warm day the ball traveled and flew well and so month that he hit it well to sit on both directions so. I think the win was a little bit favor and gone from. In the first quarter we -- you know -- from the tunnel down to the down to the other end and to slightly against us the other way it he said both ways he he comfortable. What goes on on the Hoosier to be exposed to play if -- ignited team real one of those big kickoff returns and it goes on the ends of the reload -- on the twenty. Demoralized will be become all flat -- don't have that MG. If if -- one of the ten abrasive with thirty gods that ignited change a whole game the whole affair especially the Jets kickoff return them what wheels in Leon Washington and Justin Miller before him and and you know they've they've had great returns down there and and it could kickoff returns at right at the ultimately fruitless. You know 56 years ago that was big neutralizing factor that they never even got to go going to play and -- file. How important is the V fundamentally sound you're zero run out of the pocket and throw back with you -- bushel on because. If you cut chasing him electric guy down you can be big problem. It's it's very important in there was several times are we did a good job of that and we stated -- and we made some good plays and some negative plays and and there are a couple of times or we. Kind of lost leverage on the ball and you know past articles that came out the backdoor for fifth here whatever wasn't. Stuck believe we let a mountain and you know gave up along when there on third and twenty sounds so. We didn't do as consistently as we need to do we can certainly learn from those -- plays and you know he made us pay the price on some of those we you know we got on to win and the trident. You know I'm from Verizon and to sling it around a little bit longer in good position and they need to play as a step style changed at all -- books -- and I think yep I think -- you know -- he's going to -- he's going to make some great plays doing that and then he's also going to. You know have a couple of he probably wishes he had back but you know any enemies is all -- quarterback these middle market once and that -- but. I think your points and it is is. His right on the money you know -- discussed it on the got to do your job he can't. He's better at that and we are and if we try -- and planned next and -- loose play game with and he's better at and we are. We play more disciplined game and then you know we can minimize the down side and that's really want to do -- there. You know given ample killer plays against them from actually change different because obviously supervises and always have -- how much have they changed. Their office for him. Oh quite a bit and it's they change quite I think he says and a huge influence on what they're doing offensively. As as you know last two years we've played and that that no huddle right you know come to the line and and and don't substitute except when they want to substitute that kind of control that the fence in the tempo of the game and all that. It's that you know that's done they changed their cadence they've. You know that change of philosophy of the passing game a little bit more bootlegs more roll -- more. You know deeper throws you know like the go pattern that he threw. That. We got the interference call along with Deltha on Cotchery -- here at that position I'll think pennant it would of made that throw last year I'm now think -- thrown you know was. -- well advised play could about a big play had -- compound -- It could -- a bad play too because it was O'Neal had a pretty good position on that but that's the kind of play that Brett that's kind of plays Brett makes and that's different than the kind of -- thank Pennington.

What sort of -- of that's it let's assume we use a lot of low LaMont Jordan told the leader in the game was a part of the game plan or. To bring a fresh running back and play quite well.

Yeah he he did you know we we went into the game saying in Italian all -- our backs we want to play all of on the we have a lot of different combinations and there aren't. You know Lawrence while for a little bit and and Monica and an -- and ran well and move the pile and at the holes Harden and picked up in a 34 yards after first contact so. I think we have good production out all those guys it was good to have Kevin back it was could have -- bald. You know Sammy made some plays and he fought well known you know Lawrence Gibson sent so. You know I think that's a position of depth or -- in quality and hopefully we get that kind of production you know or get production from all those those players include Kevin in the kicking games of the stuff that wasn't so much to say okay -- LaMont until this point time it just. You know sort of worked out that way but we've we did want to play and we certainly want to get in the -- the have few carries and and you know we felt like that would. Analysts say wear down the Jets defense the kind of game a little bit of a change facing keeps -- fresh backs in there with. You know different run insults that you gotta tackle -- differently than you tackle and Sammy or Sammy -- differently in the long. So you know I think that. That that kind of works in your favor as long residents -- you and I don't think we can let's not forget you know cope. Doing to open a replay against that -- ignited -- B oh yeah a buddy holly and they're pretty well against Jenkins and he's a Kansas. He's tough and he's going to give anybody problems you know he's he's. He's a load in there and he's got a explosive quickness where he wants to shoot the gap and hit it and he happened to be around that way you could you know he can run into a big bowl so. You're not -- to move him it has got to try to you know chemo play and for the most part you know -- that with some help from billion. And Logan but you know -- kansas' that they can upgrade to their that your defensive line from last year.

I thought the end of the second quarter beginning of the third quarter where Cassel got stuck by him by Thomason and did you for a quarter of again by Thomas than Harris but. And -- as being a little bit at the end of that play in the second quarter but really remain poised and it didn't get to -- just. Par for the pick after the death of -- you know we stay focused and and and at the bottom I think that would -- a lot of people that. But in his position hadn't started since high school but he remained poised throughout that whole time that you won a lot of people over when that and a couple series.

Well we were certainly realign their for those cultures -- right you know we we end of the half there was good field position -- all back after. You know couple negative plays and screen pass and and and make it stop there and and we couldn't Manning with you know went the wrong way in Iran dropped the -- is an and the given on the ball back. For a daily basis academic come back get the balls or third quarter and you know have another bad series with a couple sacks and you know those negative plays and all that so. But you're right we're -- play through that really I thought of all the drives in the certainly the first was key but. After they scored touchdown make it sixteen -- come back and take the ball and you know on on on 71 yard drive and and kick the field goal and keep it for over five minutes. I was -- that was really a big that was epic series and then. You know -- sack came after and that's. You know get the ball back and -- hang onto the rest of the way so that's always liked and the games you know from pocket.

Analysis when you I'm -- you on what the fifth inning outline that mask if you -- yeah seven yards it was sort of through -- because people talk about being conservative view didn't you can -- the ball the middle you have some clock what you chose -- he thought Thomas to reopen until for a touchdown. And you went for a I'll always about the fourth and three -- of them.

What a while the sound of balls on the thirty yard line -- and so about a 47 yard field goal that really wasn't play at that point it was a nine point games so. I think -- was the play either. You know how much you really can pick up on land so. You know if you could just get three yards there and and what we did was begun to the formation that we had been run and that kind of off tackle play with. You know Mankins polio -- you like so much and and so we while we agree -- that exact play and and slip scurried about the Welker you. In -- correction it pretty good play on he came up and he hit -- right at the line of scrimmage that. You know -- was able to get his pants down kind of break that tackle and you know stumble for the first down -- You know really more good run by Welker than you know great plays that was you know wide open or anything like that he -- You know the good run and knows it will you know square through their for the first down but that was kind of the idea on that -- think the percentage isn't and kick in the ball. -- Like the kind of got messed up in the protection -- little bit where they ended up leaving Washington on on Thomas and that's option that was what they want to do. And and he kinda hold both of man anyone gotten gotten there has proscribed.

look at described by people who or two game yesterday the fuel and saying that at times they thought that Randy Moss -- this interest that'd. And an aloof and -- giving up one on route he seemed to be pretty feisty and what he said when the game was over did you sense any of this during the course of the game.

Well not think that you know heat it was pretty obvious what the game plan was right right from the start. And you know just we had some plays as we always do -- he could you know get down field a little bit but they. You know he and they they they put Revis on who's opposite that doesn't Boren in the put roads over the top of them. You know most of the game and you know we had a few opportunities or got the ball to him underneath on the slant patterns crossing pattern and then. You know when they finally did play single coverage when they're trying to get the ball back into the game and then usually you ran right past Revis and you know we just couldn't connect on appointment. You know I think it's frustrating for Seaver when they you know when they know that they're being taken out of the game but the same time. You know that opens up some opportunities for somebody else certainly open up some things for Welker open -- on offense and running game. Into the back you know -- evidence and Meehan and things like that and so that's in which undertake what kind of more with the defense has given us access and lob it down and care roads. And you know let let him make plays on the ball on and be part of the field that that was ago.

Go Austin. Maybe wrote lol references who made two when Tom took over the team no one. As compared to the team Mets taken over for this year and and always. How those two teams compare similar or different --

Boy that's a tough once it has an article players but those teams that you know -- when Tom came in there we you know of course throw into and then and that would be Indianapolis lost to Miami or one degree. I don't know we're a little bit different dynamic it's there's so many differences on the -- our mission there -- Analyze you know I think our expectations are. You know -- prepared on win every week -- you know not that doesn't mean you know. Our expectations -- win every game but. -- each gain -- our expectations to win that game and that that's the way they were then. And I think that's the way they are now so we'll just take it one game at a time -- you know see what happens but. You know there are some bumps along the road that season quite a -- as a matter of fact and you know we'll see what the season brings -- you know right now we're just focused on Miami deterrent if the three you know one of the -- and you know that's that's a big challenge -- right there are so we'll just take that as it comes and and you know at the experts -- compares.

We'll do -- don't make Cabrera -- offer it to your submit a question number five a local one what you'll teammates Woody that it was a on the Jets playing tackle well. It was in my imagination was he's trying to strip -- some of the pocket that's a tackle Derek. It looked like he pulled a close other guys at least six -- seven times when there are few holding. I'm holding its -- below the top of the plays and I was comfortable positions it was. Did you hold --

And you know it it's. I -- Damian -- the music because it's play at all three positions in the NFL and and really I always those best position was as a guard and any senator you know command college and and we kind of needed to center when he was here so we played Johnson but then of course in the shotgun situations with foot -- guard them. So to play in Russia and you know -- tackle Detroit that the -- I think he's got the ability well three positions and -- the Jets. You know want to attack they would put him at tackle but. You know it's not really he was so -- those positions probably Toronto amassed in this most standards epic -- it would decent quickness but to actually go rule and a the movement. -- There's a lot of lot of things can happen out there tackle between planning -- big guy like Ty Warren. Or planned against you know more athletic like Mike Vrabel -- Thomas. -- like that's a big you know big range out there more space to work and song. You know what I think Woody's Woody wouldn't mind -- the.

What we depicted DOC's best position. Safety is able Wanamaker sent -- big -- safety. -- and I was. Well he was to -- usually have recourse if they questioned by intelligence who want to put those tackle but -- go to -- absolutely delighted to have recovered well after that I -- escorted -- elements that definitely goes directly to -- half minutes while breaking out of nine I don't know whether I -- in the -- that happen -- I don't want so that's what it was one of the -- those tackles and we're. We talk literally everybody. These -- and -- common. Doesn't work for it won't work. -- the poison Matt Cassel and return but this early in almost seemed like after. He gets the few times there when that happens and you would think things at that point could -- you know -- That's what he seemed to show even more. Poised at that at that point did you notice that something happened there for pitchers but -- possible. You start to gain more more confidence at that point you figure all of -- space and some real adversity out there but he seemed a little together at that point.

Well I think that you know that that the toughest points of the game were the opening game you know with a crowd wasn't too with a lot of momentum opening day. Lot of energy in the stadium and and we had two good drives to start the game. And then you know as we just talked about we stumbled around a little bit there at the end of the second quarter the start of the third. And then. You know kind of bounced back from that the interception came and got the ball on the -- on their minutes -- screen pass. And then they scored to make it sixteen tan and now everybody's getting back canceled -- they get the ball back you know they got the lead and and you know -- Texas on the long drive there to eat at the clock at three more points -- and -- point game. And so that was picks so you know beginning of the game and then. You know these the turnover and then the end of the game when you know they're they're trying to get back in -- you know those are really critical points out -- he.

So. I didn't notice anybody making a big deal about the post game. Coaches meeting did you can't hardly do weight than it was really -- a week that we might have missed relative not a thing in this it's a signal that they announced story just because nobody thought about -- here and shoulders on the rest tomorrow for us it is -- amazing what they make is that. They view on you know I would. -- try credit rightfully so -- trotted out of one of active coach I let's get to the to the Miami Dolphins new coach. To running the whole operation out -- remember him think about it and how much -- fifth -- yeah. How much how much it's changed what are they doing differently obviously new quarterback what do they do -- definitely. But.

Well that's an interesting Oakland defensively they're they're basically run in the the defense at the Cowboys ran last year that we saw movement now that now switches the San Diego's defense that weight -- brought from San Diego Dallas and now. Paul passed on east -- certain uses and in Miami and so it's -- the San Diego Dallas. You know Miami I -- confusion my record yesterday I noticed in their game. They would be in the 34 they would switch to the 43 they would about what it's well I think that I think the switch back and forth had to do with. You know with their zone -- you know try matchup against -- on the receivers and some -- the that's thanks like that. But their 34 team and and they offset the nose in the talent to bring outside linebackers like Merriman and and and and you -- from Purdue. I'd get from it you know it's Andy you know where in said the same thing you know it to bring outside linebackers on some you know man man man free coverage. You know some with sandy -- play offensively. Dan Henning as the coordinator and they run the old Carolina off months ago -- Super Bowl Super Bowl 38. And the offense we saw -- and defend very well know five -- Carolina where he has. Early in the season so. Shift -- a lot of different scheme blocking in the running game. Like throw the ball down field line and the formations play action comes off the running game. A lot of outside toss I plays. Close formations -- bunch of stuff like that. So it's kind of -- offense. You know Wade Phillips is the fence that's that's him on by some details -- and think that. They've won a place they've really improved on the offensive line personal Jake Long do that smiling. Helps on the -- telling house in the second year thesis counts owner. Kerry's plan right tackle and you know had a real you know -- from Connecticut and was playing right guard got injured but he isn't very good pre season. So they they move one tackles inside but. Under much better on the offensive line you know on those give him a more physical -- and with David Martin's so there. They -- much better fundamentally. Offensive lines -- Pennington. You know we don't know how to quarterback he has beaten the decision maker's mark and and you know -- game very well Ronnie Brown Ricky Williams. You know -- want to try to run the ball in and mix in some play action passes and take advantage of you know us on the -- players like that again and get the ball outside you know win when it's there. LeBron can do damage to the Rick Monica -- to a outside from the prince it known. -- is -- well I -- Ricky Williams a vote by explosive players.

Coming new players they have an older and a major rebuilding program but they've got 2324. New players on the roster.

You know it's a lot miss a lot Steve and and defensively you know it running Gaza Ferguson on the nose and you know -- Roth who was at the fence attack moment -- at outside linebacker. You know public it's -- actually you know and -- some of them. You know Channing Crowder playing very well form he's been very in order for the guys are from Tennessee this and so. They've they've added you know an -- few players on both sides of all opponent kickers on the return as secure from lines of there's there's a lot of new faces them food into school -- they brought him guys -- lead two minutes companies and other they brought a lot of young players but they also broadened some veteran guys guys that think -- familiar with. From Dallas and then you know on the pleasantly as well.

Which kind of judged team this surely is Torre sixty places obviously have a mesh well -- I mean it's going to have a lot of mess ups a lot of gaps because is no coordination a lot of kids. Get used this new system. So as they progress they'll probably get better about a seen a lot of film and looked. It looked disoriented but once that team plays you waters who probably will be different two more improved team.

Well you know they played very well against Kansas City mandate. In the third pre season game they they really handled that. They handled them. Pretty well up there and we did it and and against the Jets you know they they have the ball placed down inside the ten yard line. On down by six and and you know we're able to score either time so. You know they can birdies of one of those possessions that he's -- in the Jets and some of the very competitive game right now and list the last couple plays and and I think there are solid team sure there further improvement and you know that probably have some bumps in the road a little bit. They're much better offensively. They run the ball better they're tougher that'll that'll make many mistakes that make you learned. In on -- Warner had a good day against some yesterday and I haven't seen that film yet but. You know I think they're much improved team from last year.

It's pretty good there's no. That so bills at a later rounds -- Pretty well -- about it -- there there. My coach here we go to oblique clean energy action that count coaches question of the league drum roll please weeks that question comes from Eric Moore. Eric asked on what -- more on. There are more or a familiar. -- Minute we will -- I always -- who grew up before. He had to play against Reggie white ethnic problem credit goes started Buick that the -- right I was so scared. Q has probably I would assume that it. I really album I've definitely I here's this question what do the distinguishing skills and responsibilities of the outside linebackers. Versus the inside linebackers I was going to ask the ask you this question but I didn't think it is just sad that adequate answer and so -- who wants more. --

yeah facing a 34 defense and it doesn't really matter what defense you play 3443. I think that that the nature different to me is. Playing on the line of scrimmage like outside linebacker does. Versus plant off the line of scrimmage you know -- half the five here it's off. And having -- and the line and -- blocking schemes in own work and different gaps when your on the outside you you kind of know your responsibility is spree while sent. -- the outside guy hired you the next outside guy and there's one guy outside the U. More pass rushing to cover the flats inside linebackers. And running game at the film you know from pretty much signed on asylum and use out of the ball. And a pass -- responsibilities. You know very quiet day double play action passes and different passing combinations that they have to recognize and and match up with so. There there's quite a bit difference between those two positions that's hard line. A player that can play both inside and outside and you know we've moved Vrabel. From outside the inside -- we moved Thomas from outside and we moved him inside and went back outside. But overall it's hard to find players that are that are adept at both positions -- it's usually. I don't want to work or the other. Who define -- got a question rights of people that is that right yes it was ironic probably probably the one guy could have played either spot you know at at that level you know -- coach was -- you know Taylor played on the line but. When we played them off the line that's kind of -- will linebacker in the Mike on the goal line situations like that. You know he Hewitt and.

Welcome you. Choose Zoellick well -- have to have to deal with glory -- nose tackles and jump ball it's okay topic I'll coach you always hear -- misleading the public but go to another in silent and yet that's different than -- right oh yeah now yeah today not this okay. I don't outside linebackers ever.

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The guys are real quick through Mike -- this yesterday were you gone through and while I think that. I think you go for tuna situationally that is certainly were considering our -- was wing played concern how it's gone and and if you don't. Now if you don't feel good about your defense then sometimes you you know you try to win it -- offense and you know we've been in that situation before and and you know where you're not numbness O'Neal -- goodbye defenseman think that's a Mike was saying but. -- you know we've had situations at the end of the game where we did. You know make 11 down. You can and the game. Or you could run three plays kick it back to them and and try to hold -- And you know about a number times in that situation -- and you know kind of an aggressive from the ball try to make that you know. Ozzie current size for an all -- but now you know the bottom line is that if you know if you can make that one play and you don't have -- you know play another. Government anymore and and side you know I understand strategy I don't know I think each game's different the most important thing is you feel good about your play. If you feel like given that two point play and you know that's one -- to run I don't think -- want to go for that and sadness and like this morning and we want to do so -- and there was a based on whether if your office is moving the ball you feel good about their you're defense gave up three touchdowns in the last three possessions but the other team you don't feel good about them. Right but I know I I understand that planet and I'm with you there but I'm just saying when. You know a player and call in that situation and and you know -- sometimes and you feel good about those plays trust me and then there's those times when you don't and same thing. You know on the goal line -- sometimes or you say I feel 90% comp and we're going to pick up this fourth and one and there's other times orders and boy this team's really good at shore -- you know not many people moved it against -- were kind of struggling in that area. You know we're not going to do so you know I think how you feel about that success that play. You know probably has even more to do with -- then actual strategy of whether that caller.

I do get a kick out of the fact that. Most impressed with decent witch -- and people buying or Oakland thing that -- thought that was that was not that was based on have you -- at the -- at the end of two. I'd yeah we did pre season game. In Cleveland. Reports now it is going to Austria Indonesia sent Baltimore and it didn't go Petroleos five minutes ago it was lastly. I was yet thank god that would go over that the worse -- no we have 11778. Incessantly. That's at practice now. I coach Jeff congratulations on the on the win yesterday in the -- and you'll see you back -- aren't thanks in -- if he plants they thank you.