9-2-08 Ken Rosenthal, Fox Sports

Our number three dale and -- Sports Radio WEEI the expanding WEEI Sports Radio network. Now on in Portland Maine and Bangor Maine and so. May be the first opportunity for listeners in those areas to hear. Our fox baseball insider joining us now on the eighteenth -- hotline from fox sports is Ken Rosenthal make and I don't. -- out Q you've got a great article was posted a couple of days ago about the GM carousel and and where you when I have a disagreement is not so sure Brian Cashman wants to stay in New York after this year.

Well actually we're not disagree because in the article and mentioned. It's not a lot. That would be it starter if -- left on his own terms I do you think that because. He is a lifelong Yankees -- real -- He's comfortable there and at least there but they are about to impart on -- Shift -- from. What you'd try to do we payrolls now focus -- all act more like realty. If they say Bryant going to go out and explain these these players is like. And certainly there's possibility goes right. It's also possible that these state we don't want you back or like -- league that long.

I want to ask your GM question. Eventually but let me ask you this you -- trying to do some things act like a real team. If you the New York Yankees. Why do you need to bring the payroll now.

You don't but the but the Red Sox over the last few years and that's from pop but the -- Not only -- they spent money when it's appropriate and they haven't always spent wisely but. Really the whole marked what they've done is pretty. Pre master apple. -- every other young player old -- group that is something the Yankees unable to. When you're able to do that. We're able mixed in younger cheaper players. If you more flexibility to go out of reach the it makes it more of may help the payroll situation.

I observed and can have a -- the -- Yankee fan and I'm not but if I'm a Yankee fan. I I point to the Red Sox say they are the -- but I'd also say. He spent 51 million dollars just for the right to negotiate with Daisuke Matsuzaka the overpaid for J. D. Drew the overpaid for Julio Lugo why because they could. And I don't want my team to cut back that much although I do want to see that infusion of youth that you mention.

I'm not suggesting this year and looking back Mike was certainly that should aid trade and -- Hughes and Cabrera. On not what they worked value like year. But. At the same time like it. When you'd -- one of the reason you can make mistakes. Because what individually. What. -- in boat wherever else in. That the issue up it is now. It also. Vibrant. As you have you. Won't that are in the yankees' problem has been one of them. They're 2 they're too athletic too stuck with players -- long term -- away from. It would get away and number of those all these. But if they go -- and they Teixeira and just possibility. And they're kind of entering this same territory.

You know Kenny playing off your article with revolving door general managers. I wondered about the Red Sox I'm only going to get way. -- just two ahead of myself on this analysts say the Red Sox. Win a championship this year three championships in five years that usually means you're going to lose some people going to lose some free agent players. You know loosen people in the front office. Are are we in danger of seeing as some of Theo Epstein. Assistants -- you know gobbled up by other team.

Always possible though. There're a number of -- and it's out there right now that. I would guess our head of those guys. Those guys still very young still relatively new to this and I don't feel was too but I would suggest that there's only one the trying to disrespect the jet lawyer any of the other guys there world out the right guy but you know is unique. So. Yet it's possible certainly that they when he in -- they don't win again. A number of jobs open they could lose someone it was just for some time ago so. Yet that's the -- team works and I can.

One GM -- you suggested you know might not be too comfy with his situation. Is -- colliding of the Dodgers with all the moves he was able to make. From -- of the offseason move to bring Joe Torre in there to the in season trades -- he was able to bring in Casey Blake and Greg Maddux and Manny Ramirez. Why is it failed so badly.

Don't -- the great question and you look at that he. There's certainly not count.

in the younger players. Camp. Loney each year Billingsley. Broxton. All productive there 2 okay. It's the older players. And the lack of players surprised that I think is very dot. Well I mean is that Jeff can now. He's in surgery. In Nomar and the other guys just. Two or not -- to be with you want to be and they don't have players. Who were 28 point nine at the peaks in the rear there's younger -- That is one issue the other issues. Have to use on our chemistry in the ability. GL immediate because they don't have that -- kind of prime player. -- The young guys the older guys there than it is great. That -- outside observation. Total observation. Is not quantifiable. And no chemistry issues but that oh -- your -- and for whatever reason that you're working. Those certainly. Was good the.

I Kenny the last time we talked we argued about CC sabathia. Want to ask you about CC sabathia again on another issue hit or error.

A Taylor bothered me. It goes from now it is last score. You know the scorers that guys do basically law enacted which they do that. And him as soon as he pitched no hitter and he got out where that error there. Either way actually. Ridiculous -- that's like saying hey. If only. Pedroia had gotten and and somebody is a home run -- that were tied the game. Certain situation. I put too much is made it even the appeal is distasteful. You know the pain. All the wrong calls wrong I -- it.

You know -- Al's gonna say yeah we're not going to argue on this one I'm surprised that the people who were so passionate adamant. That it was an error how much I looked at it fifteen times. OI don't think so.

And that's why. The reaction to view was really that -- Little -- of professional at least. Eight. I -- the plant here 45. Oh and I never got a clear field.

And plus it is the official scorer his judgment his -- her her judgment is that it's a play you're supposed to make. So you mean to tell me yeah he's a good fielding pitcher. That he supposed to come off the mound you know grab that flaw in his make a great wrote a first that's like a nice solid throw to first base.

acquired shortly ordinary effort -- hand in. You can look it up to wait and I would have no problem like Kenny editor Erik -- I can understand Matt Pickens in both sides. I just don't understand. The action I think.

Needless to say because of where we work. We seed Dustin Pedroia a lot more than most people do in our opinion of Dustin Pedroia is probably colored by that. And yet I get the sense that out there in the in the big wide baseball world. That more and more people are kind of coming around. To the the line of thinking that disguised pretty special.

You have a greater insight into that anybody in this. But there's a general sense on baseball that this guy. Terrific player and I these comments in the backhand way actually serve you. Heighten. The awareness approach because of but he said it was -- Out particular read that guys. Get hurt before most people would have you pop perhaps take that. He I don't know the MVP at this point but he's in the discussion. -- goes about every game has these -- every bat. Hand eye coordination and makes such each hitter in all it's really special and -- it's good or Michael backed this with him all the I don't know that it ever a player who -- I'd happily buy outs in the league is. Ira at all and -- And while that's the -- thing. Oh right on -- lack.

Now it's funny our our our colleague Alex beer from WEEI dot com did the research so I don't want to take credit for it but. If you look at at a second baseman hitting 325. With fifteen home runs fifteen stolen bases and a hundred runs batted him there'd only been two seasons. In Major League history turned in better than what Pedroia is done so far this year and they were both turned in by guy named Jackie Robinson.

To -- a lot and we can always make the numbers thing for our various purposes. But what you look at that kind of thing we just read. -- That is very impressive these yet he's also better defensively. Than a lot of us thought it would be. And I just what the got a watch them play.

who are your guys these cities in the conversation who were three or four guys. And in your opinion that are that are in that conversation as well.

And I would also -- Josh Hamilton.

Really this conversation is kind of difficult because there's no jump out standout guy on campus. Cause quit against BBs right. He's. And so -- round. And I hit it would be his shoes but. If Pedroia -- not -- them in or is that that. Those guys a lot of attention to I just think quick start finished has been wrapped. There.

It was funny to hear you say the Red Sox fans criticize you if it it's really out of character their social I have observed I don't really express themselves. All that much which you know what you could have said this to the Red Sox fans who criticizing you. Some of the Red Sox own scouts. Down on Pedroia but I want to get.

They had I will this -- In general any organization and by. Theo Epstein. Baseball people for the most part. They deserve a lot of credit because there were questions raised by others. Yet with the -- I remember asking. You about this. In spring training they wrote about about hey this guy. I was the most is. Second -- championship team. And -- or anything at the World Series -- out there. This guy ever going to be that good players well now that it's just. And you understand why the big swing. Lot of flashy who beyond -- And -- He can see it but now. As with a player like these next. Plays better. But there are certain players who trains and all the -- you.

Do you remember any of the good stuff that you got from Scott and anybody just really. Killed them anything stand out team.

It in general Michael people saying. -- Swedish rear end. Too vigorously to Italy. Never going to use succeed defensively. Those speed all kind of thing and actually that was archery is pretty well but. It was Warrick you know. This case for the player impart this goes back -- can be. Hole out verses is. That the people always. There to what it and it was pretty impressive. In there was some resentment of him because they knew he -- at that people like.

While I do understand that that reasonable people can agree to disagree on something like MVP. It's my personal opinion that you can't be an MVP in the league. If your team doesn't make the playoffs that's just personal preference there Josh Hamilton's had a wonderful year this team doesn't make the playoffs how valuable can be truly be. I don't think that way about cy young for obvious reasons and while I do think that Daisuke Matsuzaka will be in the conversation and be in the top. 2345. The Award itself you could you could start writing the name on the plaque today because Cliff Lee has owned this.

And I agree with you about -- MVP thinking. Me it's different when -- performing routine -- contending. Team. Different pressure that comes eat everyday. Cy young is. The league for best picture. In BP is not the best players. So we talked about the best pitcher in the American this year. Really difficult to say it's not mostly. I -- Halladay. Ice skate deserves mention is no question about that. Frankie Rodriguez. Had to be somewhere in the conversation. But he has done this for a team has not performed all that well. Start which really great story the guy opened the well opens spring training competing in the fifth starters out with Jeremy Sowers and Aaron laps too little left him. He'd. Been demoted in my last year and he just went about it that's all these -- hale. I remember. His agent telling needed you -- he would be. -- cunning use other kind of funny things. Like during the period where they would be waiting in which honey I can't speak to all about the.

and l.'s all time -- He'd never he'd -- shouted and things that's that it wanted to go there and I. I. Well my number volleys the Cleveland Indians are four games under 500 but Cliff Lee is eighteen games above 500.

Pretty good statement right there were and again the consistency of that is what. Really stands -- neat he was released earlier you know ridiculous. He's been very good the whole year and that's talk about the idea. Halladay. Need like Mike so -- of the year race he can win any year that he is deserving every year but please --

Guys pounding caribou are worried about his -- and didn't touch ups and sit. I can't. Is it do you do you think march of Cairo. Late at night says -- I may have. Given up on this team a little too early when you look at what Cliff Lee is doing and you look it was CC is doing -- Milwaukee. At least could be in the wild card race could -- they if they had held on to CC.

When you auction pyro. Got to judge where you're at that moment how. I don't know if there was any real waiting to date in inning. This point -- before. So. What they got. That it would be very good major -- Players yet to be -- But he's the audit prospect. And the other. So. Long term the better off. Even if it on the -- It was yours now so. Given their bullpen issues in particular losses of -- Ortiz. He did the right I would not question.

I thought the minute Dustin Pedroia is Grand Slam cleared the left field wall Yankee Stadium the Yankee season was done from that moment on. And and I know that some Yankee fans hold out some slim sliver of of hope but. I mean their team that looks like they're going through the motions they looked like a dead team when the Red Sox were in their last week.

You could -- it might have been even earlier -- Pedroia slam. There are people in the organization think that -- job point and it was -- taxes. That after that. Just what. The guys that. It -- happen this year demy you know there's -- vacation. Game perhaps it's wrong by. They've known for awhile. Game. -- going to be really huge. How to respond. Because they don't -- knows that but. There's don't have a lot of the same question on the same players under contract that are decline. From the same question about the young starting pitchers like Hughes and the they mean not command of -- so quick.

Well I think you've probably answered my next question. I was gonna say with bad teams usually like last year with Tampa they were bad team but we said. We can see this team comment right next year they're going to be pretty good. With New York right now -- a bad team. Not a championship level team and you see them. Bringing end some Sosa do you see some of their kids being ready in 2009. As we look at this new Yankee Stadium.

But let's look at the best case -- figure this out like it. Want comes back Joba. You got a very that we didn't and a really good and it's yup. -- That's no mystery that one but whenever you get to share or another. Now in addition to that trade Samir pitching -- a position player to maybe -- can now maybe just we -- a lot of different things. Someone suggest section shall Sharon purple -- final and a that the kind of move that they need to make in my acting and a lot of energy rod worked great player.

Old dog loved the.

No dog is he's one of the great personalities. In just two people. So if they do enough of those things they do. All going to happen in the that I have off he's been. In the.

Can we always appreciate the time we'll talk when you next week. They -- Ken Rosenthal from fox sports brought you buy AT&T with more bars in more places switched to the wireless network with the best global coverage AT&T. --