Fri, 8 Aug 2008|
Michael and Dale talked about the Patriots first preseason game in which the Pats lost to the Ravens 16-15.
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If we didn't do what we do Furlan -- how much of that game would you watch last night. Pretty much what I what I watched live about. In three quarters. What happened three or it'll you. Get along because you know you look for certain things that now. I'm not shocked that Tom Brady didn't play Randy -- and play. Last year and earned preceded me had a great year why I've messed up a good thing I'm not surprised in play. I'm a little surprised that I saw Ty Warren and Richard Seymour and Vince Wilfork and Tedy Bruschi. As much as I did. But you're looking for little thing you want to see how Mack Matt castles. There was -- council does. And the backup spot want to -- the rookie to rod Mayo. Sterling. Watched Matt play last still can't tell them that Matt Cassel has ever talked that. Brady because he did not let -- he was off his game -- you know what. Fortunately for him. And and I'm sure Bill Belichick is talent with the team today fortunately for him everybody was not real for for the most part offensively everybody was -- Not defensively. I thought -- sets -- some things that I started with the with a lot of back and group. I -- Gerard Mayo. The one hit when he knocked that guy's helmet off maybe he would have his chin strap on so what. Forget about the details when you -- the hit and you see guys helmet popped off. That's video game material that's what fans like deceit so about -- Mayo played very well about Shawn Crable played up. Now maybe the coaches are looking at today and elect you know. Don't don't listen let these media -- holders -- they don't know anything you guys down. Crable use -- Mayo Hughes Duncan your rookie -- and I would any. Exactly everything in your rookies you shouldn't say anything don't talk to anybody. For three weeks.
ever paid a threat don't speak geek. -- is it was a piece in the early editions of The Herald today which I get a rent them. And it was a piece in the early edition -- talking about how important it is to have a guy like rock Ross Ross -- on on the team because he can hear feel and there. Course in the later additions we'll -- that -- that is I saw him limp off the field and it'll look that great when he was limping off last night that's the thing about pre season. In you to sit there with you holding your breath. The -- what does Demi Tank Williams. Off under his own power but you know seemed to have some sort of right knee injury when he went off and you just hope. That you know and and I don't mean a slight Tank Williams has doesn't matter. Russ Hochstein doesn't matter they do you just hope that you know you don't see. Tedy Bruschi went off -- or having your Richard Seymour Limbaugh.
Your big guys but I think. Scrimmage is like this are refusing star almost start calling them scrimmage which is what they are. Pre season out scrimmage and I think scrimmage is like these. Are important. Because you want to see them -- guys -- and no matter if we're on the radio or not if if you're a fan of football you want to see. What these new guys bring into the table I want it to see Slater. I wanted to see like my.
By the way slate and and and I know what's special teams thought coaches talk about he hits. I mean when when he gets the ball on a kickoff return there is no east west in him.
All not even that and not only that I is that there was another play. There was a -- on a basic punt. He got down the field so fast and Eddie was a first guy down the field as they look for right right he has he came into the league. With the reputation of being a special teams demon. And after one scrimmage. It certainly thank you live and up -- I. Once he LaMont Jordan last night and see them much -- Laurence Maroney was going to do. Wheatley so there were a lot of things to look at but as far as the backup quarterback competition goes it's a fight. Matt castles. And got herself some competition.
Yeah and you know the kid who's the draft pick. O'Connell and and O'Connell you know the one thing he did do that got everybody excited was he -- run and you know and thirteen hundred yards or something at San Diego State that offensive line and on. I understand that. But -- in the words Bill Belichick that's not or looking for I mean it's great that you know play breaks down in you can use your feet and you could scramble. That doesn't exactly fit seamlessly into the Patriots system you know if he's the backup quarterback and god forbid Tom Brady goes down with -- an ankle injury. I don't see how his skill set translate at this point you know what when I was watching last night how his skill set translates. Into the Patriots offensive system he's -- very exciting with a foot.
Ball. Down made all the all the back of court all the quarterbacks such as they played last night. Have have a long way to go and have a lot to prove. I can't tell you right now with the number two quarterback is now to make a lot and get a veteran quarterback and keep hearing though he talked about this show me the veteran quarterback and that's -- yes -- now. As a veteran with Vinny Testaverde on it -- who who Steve Grogan I cannot close out there now. -- Chad Pennington he's going to take a back of job they've got a chance to start were a few teams. And good for him. I think Chad Pennington. Depending on the situation -- ironic that he's going to end up in Minnesota starting out going to say he's going to wind up in a better situation Brett -- if you go to Minnesota Chad Pennington and Minnesota is a really great for him at the perfect fit. Nice running game. Good offensively to get running backs. Got offensive line. Short passing game Brad Childress west coast offense -- perfect don't make a lot of mistakes. -- the other kid Tarvaris Jackson is going to make a lot of mistakes want even -- he's starting quarterback. You know brad Jones can't feel too good about having him. As the number one guy.
For two guys who don't believe that much in body language and reading into what people think -- don't think and we don't generally like it. You talked about it a couple of days ago I'm going to talk about it today. Has anybody ever looked less enthusiastic about joining their new team and Brett -- did last night. I mean -- liken him I just watch -- highlights and sports and while we wait for the shall start he looked like he was making a hostage to. I and and I mean I -- list until he talk much more about the Packers than he did about the the Jets it seemed. You know he talked about how you know he never said he didn't want to go to the Jets well -- we had that impression want to go to Minnesota or Chicago. That the Packers wouldn't election you were forced into a situation where you ended up with the Jets. I wonder how much he's going to help them. I mean how many years going to be.
Well let's say it or he'll be there a year and that's it right yeah I think -- I think -- okay now how how much we help them. That they're not a really good football team and by opinion I don't think the record improved. On paper they improved. Made a lot of changes pick them Vernon Gholston from picked you know you know he's always family even even if he's plan for the Jets you still family. You know picking up Chris Jenkins and Calvin Pace. So -- you know. Alan Faneca Damien Woody. But I don't like their personnel all that much offensively. I think Brett -- had a lot more to work with the Green Bay then I'll have to work with and New York.
I think to about. Yeah how how important offseason programs are. You know especially as you advance in age and Rodney Harrison has talked about that and all the veteran guys here Tedy Bruschi. You know as a guy who always it's one of those offseason parking spaces because. He knows that at this stage of his career. It's harder than it was when he was 25 years old. You gotta work harder you gotta put more into it Brett -- hasn't -- offseason program to speak -- unless you count on a high school kids in Mississippi. -- the I don't know what kind of follow up to yeah it's all about that he has helped I don't know what kind of physical condition he's in football physical condition he's -- for a normal human being but. You know -- he's got no trees had missed two weeks training camp the first pre season game. Unlike Minnesota where he would have been at least familiar with how Childress likes to do things he's got a whole new offensive system here. All new terminology I don't know what his learning curve is on how quickly he gets up to speed here. Bob -- he seems to be up against it.
You you -- you play anyone offense. For fifteen years. Fifteen consecutive years you're playing for lots of Mike's. Mike Holmgren Mike Sherman. Mike McCarthy all the -- are pretty much run in the west coast office you don't have to change that much. You're you're an institution in Green Bay and now. You going to the other side of the country -- outside of your division. Going outside the NFC he has never played outside the NFC now. It's not like baseball you know National League America rightly -- that much but still football's still football is his entire career. In the in the NFC east and the blackened or NFC north whatever you want to call it both names. And coming here not playing -- west coast offense with receivers that he hasn't worked with before. Tougher competition to he went from the best team in the division at least they were last year. To maybe the second best team but could be third depending on what Buffalo. Buffalo does this year I think Buffalo and Jets I think it's awesome. Yeah Jets fans like to hear that oh we spent so much money you make the playoffs the year before and we had a lot of close losses in. We were distracted by spy gate -- throw --
Off. We're guessing your which you -- up and -- You think Eric Mangini thinks this is great idea. Obviously. -- it. Went out got some -- and Mike cannon bomb went out and got on the.
Now -- now that now now now the mark that way. Day they are they are one and one -- hand in hand. -- Jeff whatever you want to got a bad manner Robin whatever. They are duo. And if if man Jeannie mentions it ten -- tries to make it happen.
Vice versa so they obviously are there -- everything we've just set over the last two minutes is crack. They think he's going to jump -- and make them better. You know give them a better chance to win and Chad Pennington and I'm not talking long term because there is no long term here. Everything is short term with Brett --
Brett -- a had a good season last year had a really good season at Yankees still a good quarterback. But as I said yesterday if you've if you've got 32 starting quarterback. I want to rank Brett -- On the high an apartment a really good mood -- want to rank him fourteenth. Okay on the low of fourteen to sixteen. You know men middle of the pack top half of the league barely.
Ranked Chad Pennington nineteen. What. So he got better quarterback. How much better to get a quarterback. And Chad Pennington isn't a great situation for him I think goes to Miami. I think that's a good situation for the Dolphins maybe not the best one for him. Because anything like seven wins for the Dolphins would be an improvement right they'd be so happy you know what we did last year. We're going to go winless in now we won seven games on our way back. But it if you go to him go to Minnesota a really good team. The wind up in the playoffs -- why there was some pretty good numbers get get get Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor behind.
This of this the big story I understand that I'm not an idiot. But do you think it's as big as ESPN is trying to make it yeah I think -- the -- the biggest story in sport and in sports right now. As mandated it is all Brett -- all the time on. The entertainment and sports programming network I mean it is they -- shoving it down --
Well he knows how to play the game. Brett -- knows how to play the game he knows how to play Peter King knows how to play Chris Morton's in. He knows how to play people in Green Bay national media Greta Van Susteren whoever he knows. What you're looking to hear what what those reporters are looking for I think he's identified the NFL's so called NFL insiders. And he's worked. I may have everybody they they're been so many Brett -- reports and he spent in this thing that's the Packers had a higher Ari Fleischer at a.
David Brett -- beat the Packers to departs. I don't know how you hire -- Ari Fleischer I can do this in my sleep I don't need act. --
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