Thu, 7 Aug 2008|
NFL Network reporter Adam Schefter calls in to talk with Felger and Dickerson about Favre and the New England Patriots as they prepare to begin the preseason.
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On our hotline Adams after of the NFL network truly one of the best in the business. Adam how -- this morning. It boarded MI don't worry I'm doing terrific our long national nightmare is over.
competition -- mind now you have no idea. I'm thankful I and that that okay I'm sitting right now actually people are getting to net a lot facilitate that -- to bed last night about 4 AM. And this is going to ride it has not stopped for 67 weeks now it has been nonstop I've never seen anything like pitched. And fortunately it just comes to a -- you're just going to -- ahead with -- sort of division of the New England Patriots.
In your opinion is -- a good move for the Green Bay Packers more importantly is that a good move for the New York Jets.
We -- find out and I think that is difficult to judge right now I would pitch tomorrow. From made standpoint. That -- look at the jets' alleged illusion dish mean their their petty Chad Pennington. They're certainly rest for a quarterback. -- standpoint it -- projection Q somebody that is a relative player. And they always -- during negotiations but there's always a question about the quarterback -- those -- be a question about the quarterback because. Going to be difficult for Brett tipped learning off clinching game used to his new life has no existence to New York it's going to be a big transition -- Again they've given themselves a chance this year they put god back here that's one of the all time greats. He good he was what you -- twenty disposed of thirty now I'm probably not but again he upgrade over what they had I think that the answer and Eddie Ashe. And so did she showed tremendous deal for the Jets from that standpoint the Packers. I could never understand why they would not allow. Let's try to at least compete. With Aaron -- what they were so close to that. And meet there a better team whispered fourth and Aaron Rogers. I mean -- you gotta like this would you rather have on your roster Brett Farr and Darryl Rogers Aaron Rogers.
Brian -- Aaron Rodgers and Brian -- because Adam because Adam in my opinion. You can't win super balls -- part anymore he's just not a post season winner look at the numbers what. Trust which eyes are telling you. More often -- not. He is going to give away simply Adam -- all the way up post season game then he will win it I don't when the Packers at all for cutting the cord.
Again that's. -- viewpoint that many of other -- and I would tell you that. I would I would take my chances in person or -- that they're dead but we could agree disagree have Mike I would take my chances of any time. -- gave British champ Michigan that you implied he would interception to Corey Webster looked.
More he gave away the divisional playoffs in Philadelphia up first -- overtime Adam. Just wrote it up to the Philadelphia Eagles secondary Packers go on to -- he threw six interceptions six in a playoff game at St. Louis in 2001. A stopgap at three report. Not Brett he threw interceptions in a hole playoff game to Minnesota a year later eat through a couple not to terrible loss to Atlanta. Alcohol at Lambeau divisional playoff game a couple of years after that look at it both into. Acrobatic but the good thing -- not a diehard packer -- remain really solve the missile what I have eyes and hit it. It drives me crazy Adam that the people at ESPN and and to a lesser extent you guys that the NFL network. Don't report that don't -- you treat him like he's Joe Montana he's not he won once. The last ten years -- lost Holmgren he hasn't been a winner has not been a post season winner. Period. --
Well Michael would suited up those shorter pagan to and I guess we got out went public Chad Pennington.
Those -- opinions. Look at the record he's played eight playoff games installments lefties won three. And the way he's played in over capitals late 8 playoff games Adam has not even been mediocre it's been terrible old that's not an opinion. It's not just look at what what he's done. So I mean -- I think everyone over rates and now I agree with you he does make the Jets batter but it was just got checked themselves at the door about what this player does.
Okay well again so he makes -- better word agreement on net and and he used. One of the great quarterback to do not get a blister out there like exchange capital lower dose of just say you know predatory bird park located at some cash should there. When was the last player on the Jets had real connection.
Cars Martin I mean. Do we do they don't have one right now that in the making the move. It does yeah -- that I hope it is during check out Beckett.
Out of -- it it it puts them in the back pages of the papers it puts them on equal footing with the New York Giants. But how much better of a team. Doesn't really make them is that enough but a tough start with two games on the road the first three the -- the Patriots are going to go at San Diego does that. Really make this steamy legitimate playoff team.
I think there are legitimate threat to the -- really -- Okay I think you look at the efforts of rod definitely Russia picked deputy speaker just got a lot of speed and good players and Darrelle Revis and David Harrison linebacker. During boasting can development anything and Arnold and he can't he struggled to really -- camp. Carolina how to -- a solid football Christian McGinest was too pretty good and get what he wants to play he's a beast inside. I was seat -- expect you -- get a team that remains formidable okay we're beating the jet Giants you have to have last June judge what was the Super Bowl. There have been some games with Egyptian at least played with the Patriots were just more than some teams can say. So too many I think again it makes him better -- makes an improved to make some relevant and that has -- the -- have struggled to do for a long time.
While certainly with the stadium situation there are and that you know their place in the market there I I guess those are not football considerations but they are still important but I. I agree with you Adam on the way the Jets have bloated up the last two years I find it fascinating I I think it's really. It should I hope make this division interesting. You know all the money they were around from Faneca and Calvin Pace and the aggressiveness at the draft last year trading up. To get Revis and then the Gholston pick this year and all those things that they've done. It seems to me they're just hell bent on catching the Patriots.
Well. Question -- we know what you did exist between the GT that the rivalry that there. And again. You want to torture and beat them and so I'm -- make any lucid we just thought the Patriots in light it is played hard give us a better chance to beat the Patriots. -- and and and and despite at least. Shortcomings that -- I think injured yeah.
And I agree with you do. I agree with you he does he he does he's going to mean regular season went to the Jets he well there's no doubt about that. In my mind to the Jets have internal discussions Adam about brats. Off field willingness to do everything that he needs to do more in the playbook learn the offense adjust his game because he's really had. For all intents and purposes one -- his entire career and as a reliever worked that hard about playbook to begin with what makes the Jets think he's going to work hard according to hold don't think.
Well it's a crash course he's about a month toward everything and that's going to be this good suggestion that's not going to be easy -- he's got to get everything together I think that in the heat. Who would -- mediated most -- and debate okay that most Americans tend to be. And I think they'd be stepping it -- situation where. He's got a good look at everything that's going on right now because clearly it's an overwhelming challenge for him right now to step into this new system new offense new team new coaches. New city new -- to -- like. And he's going to pick up all that stuff and get adjusted in private -- regular season opener Majid the head to big challenge. And it's going to be expect to see how he measures. With the Jets offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer Enqvist elite -- ordered that Bryant shot -- also older than Eric Mangini. But again the judge although that mistake like we've got elite player with a lot of possess an illegal to produce the proceeded but again it made him a better team.
Whether Minnesota Vikings every. Legitimate contender for Brett -- was at the world legitimate option.
I'd -- to back in the day. We outscored. The Packers hard. Feud heated up like in July okay Roger I want I'll take it came out that he wanted to come back July 3. I only noticed because -- admitted he terms of how much like had been ruined since that. By that particular day but basically. Before that I think you know people -- that did you have a conversation with -- doubled to brighten -- French Quarter the back of my mind. -- the Vikings might entertain the notion of I didn't touch a member of the Vikings my office if they have maintained at least did exactly that. They never discussed a trade for Brett -- which again they could be the Orvella guy I think would be great triple and and I eleven guess Mike is regulated like you can even get on the Internet like you you're -- without being without quarterbacks. I'm like okay we'll look there we go but. That is they're stepped out. The Packers were clearly concerned and upset in the deal projects. They put -- a -- until that point until say that the Jets were a -- rather trade Westbrook for the Vikings but we do we get 31 round picks. Back on the -- so they kill the possibility that happening right there.
And that tells you how paranoid. Ted Thompson of the Green Bay people war of Brett -- going do within the division which I have a problem with Adam if they don't believe in the player anymore. And if what's best for the football side of it. Is -- body you don't believe that he can win at a consistently high level anymore. What are your division and we don't just like Bill Belichick -- Drew Bledsoe in 2002 I think it.
He's not really think if there's scared to -- was that they were unwilling to give up anything what she was. And Packers had a chocolate dipped rejection clearly was the best interest it the best golfer now they could hold I think Dick -- the Vikings. The Vikings pulled me derby two weeks ago we're not interest in trading for. Believing in Green Bay along the Vikings. They -- not -- to get any type of Church they actually significant offer even left vacant sank.
Give us CI -- traditional terms that by this interest in what despite have to do. For the Packers only get a fourth what does he have to do for the Packers to get it a first.
A guy I think I had not memorized I guess go to a black -- admitted -- replica. It's conditional draft -- so they hit -- pornographic no matter what now what -- 50% of the plays this year 5. Then that people have to eat a third round pick in. The -- make the playoffs and our place in the 70%. Of the snaps it goes up to 82 round pick and the rejection. Blown Cameron this Super Bowl and a hard place to 80% of the place. You're becoming first tropics.
And I'd -- that Adam totally reasonable creative and all win win if you're the Jets and Bret -- pictured the Super Bowl. That's worth a first round -- period it's not.
So little bat period -- twelve injections you don't want to lose first round picks.
What is jumping off point for a for Tampa. With those conditions.
Doing and it being -- technical side yesterday. Air temperature particular teams to receive more but the deal was basically done. Well Michael that that was the story like. Doesn't want to beat somebody into the billions and end and -- part of would be -- magic -- And -- Green -- never really spoke to Tampa bay all day yesterday kid who was waiting to hear what the -- much. -- really never responded and clearly had to do was going art became obvious that it was heating up with the Jets at that point out.
I just find it fascinating I think for those of us in New England this is the best possible outcome. Of this story I think they'll ballots act is going to kill Brett -- the very reasons we just talked about Brett -- the mental part of the game having to learn Bryant -- offense. And that if -- Dalton is going to try due to -- I just think. I think it's good at but it's such a great storyline -- you know that. The -- to playing at the Jets in week two. In until today he was okay to return to spy gate what's the handshake going to look like in all these storyline that we've. -- just to death the last couple of years and now Brett -- out of interest in --
Well it's. I mean this really. Distinctive -- would be of football. And he's now back in the game in the New York market. There's so -- kicked up he AFC east yet Bill Parcells back but at least get pressed forward did you expect. Did not force real poor team -- become you really compelling division. And you'd think about a quarterback the issue right now Tom Brady -- or Carson Palmer Derek Anderson. -- Manning David Coulthard Ben Roethlisberger looked whoever commits. Well. While that's serious star power there.
Outside of Brett farce than with John Lynch going to end up.
Where you're at that included John -- about Japanese. We really didn't okay -- can get despite all -- I don't -- by -- I was thinking about it for the more resembling embedded. We have a chance achieved its candidate candidate -- didn't want to -- emerged that a that they can't yeah.
I guess you know I -- Where right. Here because if you look at the depth chart behind Tom Brady you got Matt Cassel Gutierrez and Kevin O'Connell three kids at a rule I don't think comply. And there's no insurance is paid receivers always had insurance -- it was Vinny Testaverde or Doug Flutie or Damon Huard or Jeff Miller go to -- on the line usually -- politic has kept that one emergency guy there the veteran who's been there. He doesn't have it now. Pennington is available I would love Chad Pennington as a backup quarterback.
So -- personal plea to Bill Belichick was such a thing.
Sure it is but if -- suggests start somewhere else you know there's no pressure I mean guilt.
Military got as well aware Cruceta inept Kansas City. Chicago Bulls don't seem biggest developers Bocachica expect there. -- Minnesota now -- interest in him. Possibly. Could -- ample ability take a look at every other quarterback possibly.
Baltimore bring advantage to kind of hold the fort.
Right if -- the chance to start does no prayer here but if he would take a backup job I think he'd be. A perfect guy adds up NFL network joining us here on DNC. Patriots open up their pre seasons late tonight Adam. Against Baltimore I'm looking at some of the young guys on the pats defense I think that's an interest in storyline early on here because. They don't need to get younger and faster I deepens that was they're calling card at the draft six or seven picks on deep reds. I just think they need some younger fresher legs Jarrad mail in the middle been working with the once Terrence Wheatley at the left corner spot as of working with the ones both the rookies. To think either of those guys can be impact guys early this season.
I think they're drug that -- the impact Ireland and she's not mean that's a heartache at the used on him I think of their county ever do that I think. We live together and showed a lot of talent and look at second round pick. The Patriots take out of district have been out for like sixteen years and it becomes our quarterbacks so why reject rapid with a lot of talent not be able to impact that team.
Brandon Meriweather they have some of the biggest pressure on anybody on the team.
I'd obviously it is a lot of pressure and expectation -- and I -- mean. What I -- do I -- pick up -- wanted to get back to their worst you know reporter's question about their condition bull Brandon Meriweather really had to step up.
I'm -- Chad Jackson. Like tonight and I think it's like the third straight year that I'd say about just because of his talent what he could bring those.
You know coalition they they -- you submitted step up their killed or they're loaded deposition and -- please what they -- arm through the mile per camp but it's wanted to do think kept noticing they actually do it.
At least he's doing real well at least he's not on the field -- in this camp. You don't opportunity right. Adam in talking to all the people you know and are close with the the Patriots organization what has been the impact that suitable loss what will it be this year. Is our Super Bowl hangover that that that they've got to guard against.
I played Michael a lot of things have really shouldn't change here and I think it's fascinating. A concert is the fact -- It's seven at -- Super Bowl losers are not made the playoffs now which would have changed except -- that it's really not I just think it's. Big psychological blow to lose that game. And you play somebody more games if you look at the Patriots double postseason games they played the last few years it's it's so much in particular -- regular season package to walk.
about an animal look at those Super Bowl losers and compare them to the Patriots how many they'll.
But not a television mention that you don't finish okay now I will tell you that's. When you look at -- Bill Belichick and Tom -- take my chances -- that team any day of the week. Okay I was looking -- accommodation the Patriots still do I think they're going to struggle I do not -- I just don't see it. Despite the fact they didn't think there's something Q all these Super Bowl losers. I'm Rebecca next season and board of -- struggling.
If those other teams also did not have the track record in the past at this Patriot team as he tells -- that he just admitted that but there is something Adam. -- with those other teams and I -- impacts this one but there's something about playing an extra month. And that mental and physical --
Sure exactly like I'm sure.
K so that's real now the team that wins it gets to play with the rings all offseason long and that sort of makes those. -- those swords and those sore body parts of that extra strain sort of go away but for the loser. You get back in the weight room in March Adam and you get down -- and you say. Well lifted this weight last year I did all the right things and it still wasn't good enough. And I it impacts the loser more than the winner that extra month the football and that mental -- and physical toll being a superbowl I think that's. If there's any common denominator that's it.
Well it's a lot of black -- again I think their Big Blue are that good enough to -- good enough. And local option up to overcome that if anybody is they -- they are the only wants to do that I would -- really.
Okay Adam -- you can see him on the NFL network truly one of the best in the business I think at a mutual life back. A little bit now right.
Children are and I'm bookkeeper work that Michael move look -- you wish you this morning move. And have been nice to get these mostly could that be -- called me to get me out to these updates on -- what's in the best of.
it's a bad separate thanks to that of the time catcher down the line your thoughts Brett Clark to the New York -- the best scenario we can hope for. This season this division just got a helluva lot more interesting to the Jets get -- possibly batter that's up for debate your phone calls next on DNC.
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