Thu, 31 Jul 2008|
Dino and Gerry set the table for the day's show on the day of the Major League Baseball trade deadline
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Loss of her Aristide's Aristotle Ramirez's correct. And the Red Sox don't deserve him. I think you can also say Boston baseball fans. Don't deserve to watch that kind of garbage last night at Fenway Park -- show always started it yesterday that pretty well. I think this. I don't see how they could survive with a -- no none. You'd trade a -- this team fall apart. This unravel the ball around your your ace will lose three wrote pitcher -- and -- in the process. Looks like if there was ever game a game in the history of trading deadlines. Compel the general manager I can better -- and an entire Red Sox Nation to -- react and make panic trade that was well.
Panics a strong word. I I think the we we talked about this a little over a week ago said. This year they don't have to do anything. And yes yes what we were that was a week ago this is now and I think when you look at last night's game and look at the play in this team in the last since the all star break. You say well maybe they do have to do some area and the question is what. The answer is something in Manhattan and an idea what about there. Malcontent. -- gloss over errors yeah. In left field he wants to be traded is is you you can't make a movie can bring in new bad you can't you can't shake things up. By trading the guy demanding to be traded yeah. And I'm talent I think it sets up perfectly because they're going to play better schedule is much easier. They're going to win games in the month of August if you make this trade now there is a good chance it will work out at least the short term the way the Nomar. All and a Cabrera Doug Mientkiewicz deal worked out. I I. I am almost a 100% convinced. That they will view this bomb by 5%. At 99 point 8% and point eight among not quite so I was missing nine well.
Does have a zero. What I -- I was up zero. And I'll collect what I don't want to say you have to trade him. It doesn't feel right now like it'd have to tell you I'll post up further -- further is it outrageous to say is that beyond the realm of possibility. But what we witnessed last night and by the way what we've witnessed since the all star break. Is a cry for help. From this baseball team to get this bomb the hell out of -- anyone think that anyone in that clubhouse will be disappointed if they get a call this morning and Louisville millions and end Tavares are still there he would be as well nobody has run head.
And those guys matter. I mean would very Ortiz would popping. That would Pedroia what you -- Lowell and Beckett when he these guys be disappointed if -- You know what their first reaction would be Manning gets rated the first reaction would be good in the second when would be. Four home yeah you know that they. Obviously want to get some talent back here want to get a product that they want to clean up -- blocked. That's secondary. To opening the and Clinton's. -- in the breeze in the stand outs and -- they know better than we do wanna wanna bad guys this is an in the in oh. What a selfish guys this is Regis assume they know they know well. Priorities. This guy has and I welcome a change and you know what. Everyone will pick up the slack matches the new -- Jason -- someone else the new guy. The pressure's off the -- the pressure's. Going to. Jason -- it will take the field whenever it is and you'll cheer as loud and long for him as they have remaining in long long anything short oh domestic abuse -- the history. After a drunken night out is why I'm Jason -- and -- why. He can't he has an -- can't like veteran. But he you know if he keeps doing what he's -- in Pittsburg. It's evident that you meant which gets what he's going to have more RBI opportunities here. He's going to have more people just pull a form here. I think she handles -- is of course -- in the win for the reds. Is the real world today is a better -- the man and base runner Jason -- Don't that you think initially when you think of the guy taken Mays was home watched the pressure. To fill the shoes I think it's changed I think the guy who who comes in here I mean he's he's going to come in can be embraced is not going to be. This morning his heart is that was Roland took a pray and -- to replace Nomar because. No heart and shoot his way. And -- mean this -- made it impossible to keep him and I'm telling you heard that quote read that quote. Thought I was kidding they don't deserve a player like me Red Sox don't deserve a player like that sound like it's almost self deprecating like you know I'm I'm not doing the job here yeah it's -- somewhere else he's right. Yeah -- that let's. Say they don't they don't deserve somebody. Like Manny Ramirez and this club it's it's -- it deserves this. Guy who does deserve remarkable when you think ownership has done. Just for him for the players the team average as a Red Sox Nation that won two titles they've invested in this team the expanded. That break in the clubhouse so Manny wouldn't be too claustrophobic. -- they literally. Knock down walls of this -- And he says they -- to you know treat superstars.
Like me right and it's come out that it's come to we -- going to hang out if indeed this trade happens he very accurate gauge. Of the level of desperation. Of the Red Sox front office. And it will be a numerical gauge based on how much of Manning's salary. They end up paying to get his ass out of here goodness it's going to be all all of all of that I'll tell you that's it's a 100%. Level of desperation you think you to get along well -- absolute -- does that -- abscess. Out of that clubhouse. Do you think you get the Marlins to the table without hungry and very narrow little bit of light or light and most like it. Pivotal thrown his yacht in the ability to Millen --
Honest to god they -- he. You know what if you want to keep up on the situation you catalyst analyst as we've been all over this and we've been right. And we have told you have in the victory for weeks that -- weeks that they worked in a pickup the option and when people -- of course -- of course the Olympic course did not pick up the option. The -- that the movement on his. Superstars. Always get there way and and sometimes they have to act like total -- and Manny has done that but -- tell me. What they can do short of trading him they have to trade him he has made it. Impossible to keep him that's what superstars can do that's what they do when they want to get traded that might have to take. Desperate measures like -- has. But you can't. Contractually you know you won't come contractually you hold the leverage here. But that's. That that doesn't matter if the superstar. If the petulant prima Donna wants out he gets out you look at it historically it's always the case these superstar who wants out. Always gets out and given that imagine how leveraged deal has as his make of these phone calls of these teams that know this abscess tested yet the only chance he has to get two teams involved -- three teams involved that's it in media has no. He cannot. With a straight face say they will just keep him we'll just keep them and they would laugh and say yeah how's that going lately how is this guy. Affecting your team lately and I I know we'll get a Manny moment we won't Morgan a Manny apologist -- Yeah -- in 370. Who since two weeks. Posey affecting the team as a whole I think it's pretty apparent. That they are tired of them part of his act and they are looking forward to moving on to playing that the moving on into the post Manny.
You're and other many people now looking at the way. The Red Sox are playing and losing looking at the kind of baseball they're playing the consent. Has nothing to do with the distraction that Atlanta answer a question. I'm sure they're out there there will hear it will hear it look at I don't to trade. If Jason Barrett tech -- he can make Youkilis --
Exactly exactly -- did Manny make abject Josh Beckett not. Back up the throw from the outfield what if many have done that you'd be called him this guy who always calls they -- used to call everybody in and just defensed Manning who placed the most teams. Plays the most games look at of course he loves to play tick as seasonal caller called for years and just. He goes to a litany of excuses for his hero Manny Ramirez. I think he's such -- from the case yet if baseball coach that the those numbers are dwindling mainly a hell. Have you seen tide turned quite like this mean two weeks ago. We'd come on let's -- fountain about mania that Beilein not to to defend -- correct in any case and you know you your you friends of the bandage you.
Manny and by the way everywhere you read in these guys around the -- all the time whether rob Bradford Tony master Michael so -- settlement in his game story rights the recent distractions that Ramirez has caused. Have hurt the club's focus which likely. Has led to the sloppiness. Rob -- Red Sox beat. The Ramirez situation has seemingly become much more than a momentary. Inconvenience. In this clubhouse. You're exactly right if the workout today sometime before 4 o'clock although -- not gathered together since -- have a day off. But Everett's up when they hear the word that Manning has been traded for a bag of balls and whatever it's taken he's out of town their first response is going to -- And that is going to be good to go back to that clubhouse tomorrow and welcome a couple of crappy teams Oakland and the and the Royals in the town without having to deal with this.
I -- more pressure on Mark Teixeira to replace Casey Kotchman in the will be on Jason Bay do you say to replace Manny Ramirez because. Kotchman played hard you know Kotchman. It led the team in hits in touch and play good defense it was a popular teammate. Manny. Just the opposite I mean you can sit here like you assess talk about stats. Bay -- stats are comparable and based plan in enough in the Pittsburgh Pirates lineup in his stats are comparable to Manning's.
The Sox are four and eight since the all star break one and five on the current homestand. Josh Beckett got his ass kicked last night they booted the ball around the two and -- four errors after the game Terry said talk about today's. Off day in and coming back and an and you only to read the line read between the lines understand what he's talking about. Terry Francona quote. Will sit down tomorrow as a team and try to make sure that we play this game a certain way. When -- even when he needling me tomorrow and Friday night. Friday team meeting before the Oakland a.'s game of the NC tomorrow he said -- accident OK yeah so will sit down as a team and try to make sure that we played this game a certain way. -- that require running up Morales now.
Yeah but no hitter if they trade the left fielder. And they sit around gathers a team what do you think the mood of that meeting will be it will be relief he will be here's a chance. To start playing the game right and winning and showing that this guy wasn't as important as people thought he was. I mean I think they will play their asses off it in hopes of going on a -- kind elected did when when Nomar was traded. And and showing that they can they don't they don't need the gaudy stats the Manny Ramirez has put up in the past. They can win a -- they can win with a different guy out there -- I mean it doesn't even have to be Jason day.
To be -- Munich could be and it could be Brandon Moss and we'll still play harder right and and and with more focus. Than they did before the deal obviously is more important get him out as opposed to witnesses for it which is remarkable -- used to be the opposite yet had to get someone in the head revenue for the if you traded Manny without replacing him -- they. With the cardinal -- Orlando star right Cabrera type who brought some other things to the table that Nomar didn't. You have to have someone out there. That people could embrace you don't have that that know what you just have to get this bomb the Eagles got dimes and dollars and gets fair market value per man and they all matters is that -- he'd be --
And if you want to embrace something you embrace the next guy. Who will play better defense who run the bases better harder. Who plays harder who won't be. Distracted by his comedy situation held on to be in the line don't ask an auto DO sort exactly exactly won't come up with some fictional injury. Will allow Terry Francona as as -- point is that to actually get some sleep. And stopped. And stop -- now blood I mean will take the pressure off in the different way you know might not. Drive the ball as hard as Mandy in and so McCabe will do other things and that that those that the things that will focus on is.
Outrageous to say that what we witnessed last night as has -- the cherry on top of the Sunday was the Red Sox players cry for help. I notice a dramatic get itself melancholy and -- melodramatic as word I'm looking for -- and ideas but there's no. Tangible way to explain to say you know the ball on purpose -- maybe -- he wanted to help with the words that are just on the opponent is the ability to to concentrate on what they need -- a million times in ten years. Give guys an excuse to pale and more often than not the embrace whether they try to bring with a sub conscious or unconscious there's a reason that this team is on. Focused right now and -- reason this almost pattern how many million dollar payroll 35. Million dollar payroll team with all the talent in the world can't get out of their own way right now at eight. What that is that it that Beckett and and all the pitchers have got into some sort of funk who had a subtle things that got -- yes but why. What has happened to make them lose their faulted to give them an excuse to say we're not laying up two more potential.
I think it's unconscious for the NB any punches element. Planes -- is because of Manny. But also there's this element to it's. Inexplicable. To them them play it's baffling it's it's. -- will during the -- Manny the reason Manny has created this. Distraction. -- they don't get it means a game and pick of the situation. In Boston right these guys to look around guys like Ortiz and back at me and and Wakefield and their tickets. But here this is the best place to play this is the best team to play on this we have the best chance to win. The owners have committed to this team the manages -- a terrific job. What more could you want and then someone maybe explains -- reason. To this -- situations we have but he. He wants a long term deal but I -- next year. He's going to make twenty million yeah he was here after that they won a million but that's not good enough that -- that has to back even the most. Harden grizzled -- victory in the baseball that a guy like Barrett that was Boris is an agent who's -- some wars in the in the contract. Even guy that has to be baffled to steal. I kind of players have to be looking at this and saying where's the beef and say where people where is your problem what is wrong. To make you do this and they know that there -- guarantee they note that that many could. Tactically. Get out of that option they know that he has probably already pulled that off within a -- option. And they -- is going to be free agent and they know we can do is break for two months helped them win one more title. And walked away -- and get a big deal but that wasn't good enough for him so they have to be looked around this room look at this eighth holes and you disrupting our whole season why like to get out of this situation where in this great situation you're already out. And then there here in -- Florida. This this god forsaken better. Tropical hell hole in the middle of summer and that's where you.
go and and and to -- tapper on the disconnect that is -- his -- and reality he -- yesterday the Red Sox don't deserve a player like me. I. Irony of that the Odyssey of that that arrogance pain and the arrogance that is absolutely insane I swear they don't deserve a player like me and you -- it and you'll read it and we think about it. He is absolutely right they don't deserve a player -- dog they don't deserve a player that you give twenty million dollars Duke and turned around and this is all over your shoot hoops.
I was honestly that it was kitten. People said that deservedly to break yeah program that -- it was you know me I'm no good you know but it was Carolina's. -- the next going to be tongue and -- you know kind of funny like. -- room and I'm not. Spain they won that -- get younger they think they should have someone else deserves no -- you know they got these other of these unless these lose these guys. Ortiz tied you know -- guy -- lol you know you coolest through that. These guys that those Red Sox I -- soccer's these -- Maybe too good for you mean he has successfully. Shot and so now which is sad in the and he will win which is sad but he they have no choice at the one I look forward to the post Manny.
Have you ever wanted to give a vacation -- back. Tomorrow -- it is yet to be here you want to. I won seven -- I 8523888525. All right -- we we could talk about it.
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