7-28-08 Dennis and Callahan

Giggling chuckling -- my TV room when they came on its low you know couldn't be aware that at all. What -- get them back from all the blame and we got -- And I think we get an historic question of does anyone in the -- news suits -- watch and and realize how bad there Sunday night in list is. And only needed to do was listen in the field horse or no opening -- right -- say. Along advocate -- and analysts who were actually paying attention or actually analyze a lot of people -- about what's going on a novel concept that every time these two guys open them said. She wanted to Joe Morgan would have gone yet answers. There is -- could -- the beginning of the end of Joe Morgan was let wolf see her germane to the sports flashed him a comedian meter. In my pocket so much. Superior to what you had. Well -- option on. Fortunately he's got this hall of Famer. Reputation. If they. Actually if they work on marry a minute that's that work that they were merit he beat on today via that your seniors. It. Well Phillips in Russia as a couple points -- these guys should these guys this month that worked well together and went Phillips. When gerchas was from Boston. Ortiz inside -- got apartments. On the inside and -- that goes. It's comfortable that's looking for the instead pitch. And he can turn and -- pitches and Bo Ortiz put the seats. And they look at. You know what you. Mean Joe Jon -- Jon Mills public. It's like that guy a baseball guy who knows this is all ages his brain. Game and who's not is lazy fraud like Joe Morgan's -- the pitcher I don't think either these guys -- cut now. There or course is certainly knows pitching better than Morgan but he never and it has a point or did -- ripped Jaric definitely impact on how how they had to couched. Hammered away it was -- race stock. -- Double play. Morgan ever would have done enough fastball and a good point about the fact that -- in his past the box and I hustled. And and beat that out fast but he beat your house is playing hearts -- many ups and Census Bureau you know you talk about you know I.

That's our first un answerable question answered that was what was Sunday like baseball and ESPN actually be like about the -- Joe Morgan but beyond that. Some other unanswerable questions -- I thought we'd never find out and we did this weekend's what would it take for the Fenway rump swab to finally. -- Manny Ramirez the actress -- have him quit on the team. EM and an important series the first game of the Red Sox Yankees series is the answer that question yet what not all of them.

It was a mixed mixed reaction start somewhat -- you gotta start somewhere there's no question I mean I've been right about this guy all along until Friday night in play you'd have the played the Yankees years knees don't -- and he would play and he would never ever get -- goes wrong -- those things. And that's about the only things that was wrong about a two. A couple of weeks ago the I was -- and he doesn't want to pickup the option. And they don't want to pick up the option -- him when he -- about its twenty million dollars and and listening to people again and of course they're -- pick -- the option. Meet these guys I don't know if they're paying attention -- there they realized what a problem child we're talking about we're talking about a guy. Who. Is this in July beginning his campaign. To make cute. Difficult make it on the on -- yes Red Sox pick up this.

yourself more trouble than he's work and I kept hearing all day on this patients and the Red Sox hold all the -- on November pickup the option what's the big deal twenty million and UBS. You talked about the guys the ultimate 21 child. Who gets his way at every turn. And feels as if he's not in power and not in control the first time -- guess what what does Manny do when he's not control what does he do when he wants to. Have his way he wants out he shut down assists and what do -- do you want it to about eight faked a knee injury all the stooges -- apologists. And and and and rump swab out there and got a wake up. It's going to continue many doesn't want a one year deal that's exact.

The point here that's what we learned for sure there was speculation a few people talked about it. Most people said no we don't know what many once we can't read -- we now know with. No doubt whatsoever what many want yet though that if you listen to this show more -- month and more money is what Manny -- more years and more money what many once now you know we we we learn we learn. Beyond a shadow of doubt. That man is tired of Red Sox ownership and management. Red Sox ownership and management is tired of -- the fans based on the reaction are getting tired of Manny. And here's the most important thing annual -- single solitary. Teammate to admit this. But I guarantee you have a clubhouse. Full of Red Sox players who were tired of this garbage as well do you think this weekend sat well with the likes of Dustin Pedroia you think men these actions or lack thereof. Fed the sense in sensibilities of the Michael Bulls and about the Kevin you classes in the Mike Timlin and the people who were are. Workaholics guys who care about the team with the team first and would never do anything like -- in the course Red Sox --

I told matters unless it's at Olson playing ball for for 25 year degrees. Of 3034. Four for a and he is probably never fake an injury and never. Intentionally. Dog and take that you Kalus and -- Pedroia and David Ortiz was probably dying -- get back. Had a legitimate injury couldn't wait to give back in the lineup it's what he does it's who he has. They have to look. At at -- with more. -- Missed confusion. Than we do look at him -- I don't understand why is he faking again faith in. We need him play in the yankees' Joba Chamberlain's pitch and it's a huge game huge series and he's walking in here. Dallas is knee hurts in -- and and and basically.

Quitting quitting on us right how can not a French. Not as confused as much as his disdain. It was a one nothing game that they lost Friday night. My memories are in clutch that she could -- animal middle difference about that Israel those knees act up against two nasty out and I said Friday he's not plan -- a job did you handle that and you'll write him that was -- I said he -- that much of a dog he quit against Felix Hernandez. That was one thing in the -- quit against job at home you know is another and but he did that he did it -- and he was back in the lineup when they face the.

These wars aren't as well -- and -- some battles that we thought was unanswerable is that much of a stretch now to go there. With the concept that many just might have left the bat on initial three time of course not solve all Rivera on the mound to send a message that's only -- raped anybody.

And again you gotta stop listening that likes computer games and can -- since these people they. They still look at him like he's. -- like -- I have enough back is one reason the only tonight -- I mean he's he's. Excuse the term commitment treatment value so Eastern Conference. Let's be honest. -- if you do this oh he's worked with him in the this the glass were up. Which you're here in the days of the show -- me. So -- this -- that's all well and good god bless them with good and eye coordination. That make him any does that give him any redeeming qualities of the human being and let's face when he leaves we're -- your stories. And they gonna come from inside the clubhouse and be on the record and oh what a self standard. Petulant spoiled. Narcissistic. Punk he releases and the owners know and in the nose and Francona knows that. And the teammates know it and they just couldn't tolerate it in the -- up with a jacuzzi in it -- in at 703 runs and at some. Tired of that do because in the last 76 games he's been produced by David. And hunter pence and Cody -- and aids and I name's. Tom you this. First -- play -- that we listened and he goes drive home in the rain in the Mike minutes he's taken the calls eighties and both bonds let's talk about -- hall of Famer as you'll lose today. They -- of world production we know we won the MVP in the world's you know -- Numbers but look and hits and were twenty million next actually. Number -- million. He agreed to a contract the club option yes you know it is agent Mora had no. And then he decided at some point on them an option. Have a one year deal I don't want to be at their disposal. What I'll -- I'll. Help force the issue.

A pause there to -- how to get to this logical assumption that this is what I'm going to do at the end of July. They hold a club option for twenty million dollars everybody in the world everybody in the world but Manny and I'm sure Scott Boras does -- But you're not going to do everything at least until this point on that option until the first week in November it's only are they old it's the -- they are going to wait they were going to watch many latest thing out and that make the decision by and large -- it was -- So the logical I don't know. Mental progression Manny said. This doesn't feel right feel right to -- that it's it's it's -- July come home from the west coast in the Yankees accompaniment these people just won't tell you what I'm going to do. Answer -- you probably knew they weren't going to pick up at all medical -- is more money. More years and he starts the campaign for now in the British team in the middle.

Know what the new clubs not going to give my five year deal and rightly gets. I mean it would be a new match in its place in change of scenery and all that. And maybe he would get -- agree that they wouldn't pick up the option but I can't imagine that that's why this trade thing is so problematic yeah he's still a man whose contract. And you're still. Insane if you don't. Pokey rights as a club mean you're so the canoe club with a G Manny will be unhappy if we keep the option club option will just -- Upper back and a more self centered self absorbed player. In the middle group veterans against the Yankees in July. And he's already made a hundred -- 6650. Whatever million almost 160. And he thinks his contract situation takes precedence overall teammates -- manager. Of the club the pennant race all that is secondary to his. I don't know peace of mind. Going into next year and he is civil. Selfish it's just beyond words and I can't imagine that his teammates tell you that's accurate.

Imagine how he in his own mind defends his actions how he how he looks the ceiling fan at night falling asleep and says. This this is the good thing to do this is the right thing to do I need to be doing this guy who's been underpaid and -- you know. No not avidly on grant yeah all right who who'll earn the top of their game and never got a dime out of the game and a wildcat strike us house. Tell Billy Sullivan rocket -- As the guy who the top eight perform -- three top performance in the game and sent. We need more -- we need more money that one or -- like money.

It's never been an issue for as long as he's been in the game it's -- that all the money could spend a -- has been here. Seven years he's had insane amount of money money can buy anything have anything is no need I mean I need to know where I'm going to be that. You agreed to a contract had to club option years and again we heard over and over the -- whole team holds all the cards. Well what many think he can just quit onion -- it is the most players have pride. Most players consider their teammates and their manager before they make -- Not Manning it's all about him until an and the one guy. And we've said -- here many many times score -- Scott Boras obviously has easier Scott -- is that -- advising him. What. Recourse does Boris have he wants to cash in here he can't -- Beckham's option horse gets nothing veteran so Boris. Is I think fully supportive of as -- this dog fakes an injury Boris is that they're going this is working out well I mean if he gets. If they don't pick up the option or he gets traded and in forces and the new club sports caches --

Last week as they were about the business of sweeping the Mariners in Seattle bullpen was performing well in the masters and experience seemed to be you know. Taking -- flying colors we said. Oh as a relief job now between now answering to get -- settled back on the Nantucket Nantucket go play some golf relax sale -- every needs to do. The -- job could copies that has changed dramatically because now finds himself in the position along with John Henry and -- as manager the way. Freight code -- so with the all a bleeding ulcer. At the end of this rough road trip. -- felt bad about that you think I better get it to them all done it to mental put him in the hospital anyway. John Henry Theo and it'll now and sometime in October that make the playoffs the answers yes and -- and and and and do we put up with that do expect that do we allow that to happen and not trade him away. We trade away for pennies on the dollar gets something and get this get this. All of our clubhouse. Just got there I mean the Cubs are just a -- debacles at.

Third scenarios there where he quits on them and they win anyway which is what's happened in the past -- not every year it's time to quits on the -- cost them. Like you know six but there's times -- take his little hiatus and and and fake an injury and and they'll say. We can survive you know get through weaker too maybe someone will get to mania come back and he'll -- cumulative in the post season tickets -- loves the man is back I think they're going to look into trading him and find out it's pretty difficult pretty difficult thing to do. Makes a lot of money. In on the club. Has that option which he wants to be traded John. I guess someone told doesn't have an option on yeah because he thinks that this will solve his contract situation.

John Hammond are fringe on payment on SI dot com writes the following the matter what many says there's no guarantee. Many would okay -- trade unless one. Of the following three conditions are met number one. The acquiring team. Agrees to -- the O nine and ten options with with them make -- free agent after this year some one. Number two the acquiring team agreed to extend Manny Ramirez contract and number three at the very least. The acquiring team guarantees both option years right.

You go out there and make him happy now that -- definitely not he wants 45 year that's right. And and and game is right about one thing he wants a hundred million he thinks five years under a million respect where yours. It is on did you think you. That's restricted both Gammons report -- on 425. Million a year for a two to play nine C Milan did -- 37 in May effort DHC. That's the hardest thing Epstein could say. Listen. We could make a deal with Philadelphia we can make a deal with the way and time of the that the -- But the biggest turnaround say. We'll Philadelphia or Anaheim just agreed to his every needs every whim and why would mean. You want to acquire him and and you have the curtain leverage you have the card you have the option to discuss it up he's 8900. Million.

Manny is always be eager to the end this operating into rage on at Fenway Park he will quit on them again it's a matter how they respond with him in the clubhouse with him in the lineup with his.

Sitting on the this is -- demanding to be traded whose virtually on trade the guy that used before we go to the calls knows. The mcdougals and who geez come on Hala. Does -- my college guys. A 173. While I'm running one World Series ever want to ego like that matters now but. He says he's set meal listening to. I'm tired of them enemy as. You were hired of them. The -- XY. How can you possibly be tired of the Red Sox who have done nothing but you. Insane amount obscene amounts of money well -- granite -- Purdue that allowed you to do ever believe you want or seven years they've done nothing. But roll over and enable you not thing. And he's tired of them even come up with a reason other than sandman. We got in at the MR -- place you'd get the cut in the line let's just take a look at those that lets look at -- Let's look at which -- issues that that's the only thing I can imagine John Henry's comment. Point personally and yet was nothing but response to Manny and he followed up with me he's greatest these wonderful we'd love -- he's awesome and he was so afraid even the wrong thing. Why on the year has just tell me how like Manny be tired of the -- itself as the best team in baseball. He hits -- he gets that flop around the field would have known mines he gets the -- when he feels like will you call it ownership leaping white doubles two years ago. And -- so it would obviously what is -- Possibly the -- okay -- and only excuse me what is he tired -- United are what could part of it was him over the years I mean I don't other than the mistake he -- the we don't or whispering in it's good because no one else could ever. Encouraged his behavior this attitude doesn't make any sense. There's nothing the Red Sox could have done more for him well. We slap and teammates in the missing. Happen. I don't understand is tired.

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Enough with a Manny bashing under is Jason Varitek this. And -- is back and help out as it were you figure when he hit that ball -- a bloop but. -- gonzo does an RBI policy on six. Exactly I know Sidney Ponson -- 61. Now six and -- but you -- maybe eight and a half runs per game might Mike -- equal if they're given them but he's awful I mean. Brutal pathetic miserable. Five nothing seven nothing Red Sox -- we applaud David Ortiz in that moment was -- the turn off the moment are on the TV yes yeah yeah -- is alive at that sort of moved up yet a nice 9 o'clock start nine to two victory.

you guys have because the west coast to see that they weren't in it via a threat against important to act bad that's important of the Boston audience that you know on the LA folks captaincy game reasonable hour. Soccer -- That's good hopefully aside Jon Lester pitch another outstanding game. On Santana has not to instill analysts look at -- point excellent point. Q what does Jon Lester done now and he's making 700000. When it's make in and Pedroia make it as a made his first 1000500. And Boston is that Youkilis regardless of under under Nepal and -- reducing Manny in every. Statistical category. And now while play is a little bit better defects to. Yeah but it was -- now six you know his last ten starts with a two point 77 may meant we were joker month that 234 weeks ago no no joke anymore disease and -- this year's -- starter. In the flooded involves the -- he is definitely the case -- off Beckett. Nobody on -- back to school and play better form he wouldn't quit he -- start to -- now -- that was a wacky fifth inning Tuesday that when he loaded the bases with their -- denial that.

He you know -- Diaz kind of weird inning. You know the first two better today excuse the pitches that I want to that's curve ball up -- fastball up to. Molina and you know couple. Three infield hits it wasn't a road and a walk so. You know as it is tough inning but got out of it kept the damage in the morning and you know different you know.

I -- I missed himself -- did you stay at all fair and joke where we're like an ambassador up their. If you think about it while.

Yeah I was genuinely -- I -- I'll say it was much more joy of having those two guys are actually added there's Hillary things. I don't want -- I don't know eighty ample Phillips is an excellent analyst or so's Russia has.

Very involved in that these people -- well they've had eighteen years he -- I mean there's been a Hall of Fame ceremony the last eighteen news via -- missed. This is the game you missed -- you know so -- they haven't -- But it is all about Lester and the same as the afternoon the penalties and all. Enough is enough and if you. -- a -- three hits Jerry last offered what I mean honestly what does the team dubbed him. Have you read Ken Rosenthal. Fox sports seamlessly halfway through it. -- I. Mean it just didn't just target -- this I. -- Ken Rosenthal foxsports.com. What's Ramirez was out he told some teammates that he might not play until Kansas City. A series that begins a week from today. After their nine game homestand so he was prepared. To sit out the entire I guess the thing that's tomorrow yet they pulled him call his bluff and found out he was -- late Friday night into Saturday morning there were phone calls from the Oakland manager manager term to Manny Manny and it. Sleep. Losing hair they're losing rains over this guy innings and I'm not only do I don't know no no way -- And east. He's probably like yeah rip pitches -- his daughter for taking a 6 AM flights through that the good -- out of the airport. Sports is all -- entrepreneur because -- at the airport six. So it's meant trading deadline Thursday at 4 o'clock. So he's not. I would now.

Complicated that would be put -- deal together with -- Manning and Boris. Sit and now working on all the details to mean they they could not satisfy him. Theo can work -- 48 straight and then mansi. No -- going to Philly now. Not.

On the interest for the -- fill in say are you willing to at least pick up the next two options and it's a year estimates there was enough. Right John Crockett -- with at least a third year at another Tony Crocker the best idea many from pat -- straight up I was waiting for me say that. And -- I was right rhythm I've incentive for the last month the pepper as a replacement in left field next. I know I know Jerry divide up your whole affair -- yet but. Now obviously when the whole World Series MVPs. -- here's another matter and -- manual for yanking for defensive purposes is that he's that bad it takes -- like the seventh and eighth inning. -- won't mind that he's going to be like hey can DH man Lola -- Means the national league's dominance of developers Manny Ramirez and last semifinalist it was a few weeks we'll get your flu as shields flashed David and Pacers. The Kansas City Royals David days whose idea -- a bit. Bengie Molina and when he -- getting. They're a television not by -- and -- a target home runs and RBIs and averaged easily out produced by animal league yes. -- And -- ball -- covers on this list. -- them Friday that it was like -- and I heard that. He had the depth. Belgian football -- that I -- he. Does does each of the get -- and I'll bring. Is but gummery. That's if you get away without built around not -- the draft we are not -- we have to government that saw Arnold everyday catchers sizzling. Sizzling Islanders don't cry all right our callers get you right now.