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Welcome back Dennis and Callahan had been now sometimes since we've had a chat and visit with our good friend from SI dot com John -- John joins the ball lines as the -- trading deadline approaches the orange. On how aria as reporting Dennis and Callahan are you guys do very very well. -- start you off with what dumb. It in enough so build reference to the marketplace BO said yesterday you have to. He said the price for relief pitching at the moment in Major League Baseball is outrageous. That indicates I think. Where he is going or this -- not going to go as far as you can -- and and yours to Indian as anyone to what's happening what's being asked to what's being offered. Is that true is the price outrageous.

I'm sure that it is very very high and I think that's somewhat typical of this. July 23. I I think that teams are hoping to get a lot of effort for -- that we get close the deadline things change so you know they still would be surprised to the residents -- with somebody but it may take awhile. You know obviously Arizona made the plunged. I don't lot of guys that there are guys in the markets and no -- except forever don't know what is at stake in the legit point date has been out there for awhile Carroll would Baltimore. There are some good relievers on the market. Marte with Pittsburgh and I think eventually. Some of these guys could be traded it's going to come the July 30 July 31.

What would the price sale by about Brian Fuentes the I'm sure the Red Sox have inquired in that and -- probably the reason the -- talking about these exorbitant demands or would you guess it would be you're -- a couple.

Two good prospects in probably interested in guys like. Both men -- guys like that it you know. At this point I'm sure it's very very -- I could see that Colorado is looking for. High prices for guys open. Clubs bite but that -- deadline I think betrayed will be made and I do think that Colorado is almost in the race but so that may change things too. Even though they're terrible in that division terrible -- the race.

All of the guys like that they're talking about it would be went days and -- in -- a huge history. Made they all going to move I mean these guys that teams will definitely move. By next week.

I think what this would be more likely than not to move I think marte. You know I think that he's more likely -- not to move. Gerald of that other guy from Baltimore. You know I think it you know it's -- 5050 -- the better it most these cases. But you know someone's going to be willing to give up a good prospect in most seems like the whole lot of those -- included and it's obviously served them well so -- to keep the prospect.

John say the from the Red Sox standpoint their motivation is greater not to do very much as opposed to do something on a number of levels -- they got burned last year with Gagne. The Masterson experiment as the bridge got a Papelbon had just -- the play itself out. They they still think I assume that they can get Okajima. Right maybe about the last juve level of course the you know the reintroduction to the lineup offensively of of Ortiz -- seems to be all those -- to the back of their less likely -- more likely to do something.

There may depend on Masterson he if he can do it than they probably won't won't do anything because that he he's the type that -- that would should be able to that's the way he projects as a yes setup type guy. So he can do it they've they've -- got beaten some -- teams. May actually need to -- Boston has. Enough there where they may be able to get by without doing it.

How motivated as far as you can tell -- is Brian Cashman on the New York Yankees to make a splash or do something.

Well they're they're trying to do something -- you know I don't know how big display as they can make you know I've heard it Xavier Nady it submit their interest in and I think that Pittsburgh ultimately will trade Nady so someone's gonna get him. I don't they're talking until about Washburn. My noticing is that that is that the Yankees who also like to stroke he galloped over to Seattle so they're really trying to make better. Dubbed a double blessing for them we'll see how that works out -- to watch president of look at that in terms starting pitching it's hard to make a huge -- right now sabathia and the Cardinals were it really goes -- the guys and if you get one of them. You know I'm not sure who. One other top of the rotation pitcher going to be traded didn't like anybody so. -- like watched her from afar he's been a guy who's I've been very good against the Yankees and I think that that trade is. Real possibility.

Yeah you as you may have guessed John we spent a little time talking about many room yeah that's and his future here and bought and as. As everyone knows you have a good relationship with Scott or -- she used to do you still he got -- bodies.

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thousands. A you ride that Manny doesn't want them to pick up the option but they're going to anyway is that just two guests and your part is that do you.

Well that is it's easy access is accords. You know I I just feel that forty million dollars -- what you're going to twenty million dozen a lot to meet you but. For a one year contract. -- million dollars in the bargain if he's if he's a free agent he turns it until.

I tell us give us your -- if they don't pick it up and he becomes a free agent. Where does he go in for how much.

Well I'd bet if you like to play at -- time first. You know I think you like that and they liked the idea of playing for a good team words -- low pressure. You know I guess. That probably the most likely. You know I get Arizona they would pay that kind of money but I doubt it. Sort of be my guess at a time but I don't believe that's going to happen I think that there going to pick it up I really don't see any reason why they would.

Jody Gerut -- this by you if you believe that Manny would prefer to get to -- the first the ball prefer them to -- a bowl two years at forty million dollars which of course are not going to do.

You know I think there -- I think when he was Tuesday could be set free or did it get an extension from Boston runner at first go to private extension from Boston and then. Big bucks extension and then the second course should be set -- we could do his own. Big extension and then the last choice would be. What it was going to happen right in particular.

Well you're you your your question was what would motivate the Red Sox not to pick it up and I would suggest you want to -- doesn't get the extension. Where you don't pick up both years of forty which are not certainly not going to do I'm not sure many would be. And happy about that so nothing illustrates the -- a guy yet another twenty million dollars to Larry another tumultuous year because he's not happy about the future. If you were security droplet in financial securing the whereabouts of of of where his career is going to be the next couple of years doesn't that motivate the other say maybe we cut our losses at this point and spent the twenty million on something else.

Don't you think the baseball people increasingly look at him. As a designated hitter than John and the Red Sox obviously have one of those.

You know there's a lot of -- left fielders in baseball. You know he's going to name the great ones there -- to be -- very short maritime. I just let mallet pretty decent but. There really aren't too many great ones you know he's been as good defensively. This year I think and you guys feel more that I do -- is that is that he's been. Before I mean not good he's he's he's he's. He below average but -- you know I don't know I haven't seen. He -- guys haven't seen him a major drop off but you know he's been -- pay property owned newspaper that he doing the young man he was not a good. Left fielder.

Speaking of holidays seem destined for one to leave Colorado and getting huge deal the V. Like Teixeira guys are going to the highest bidder and in a big market.

I think you know -- looking hard to see where they get but I mean look at those asking prices I think it's going to be tough. They've got a a year to go with him I think they're going to shopped him in the winter and they'll be more teams involved not to the teams in the race but more teams involved and I think that they're likely trade him over the winter not now. Teixeira I think the better chance to be traded I think once Atlanta wakes up and realizes. It's not really in the race and rather to draft choices you can get something good. -- Teixeira not bad ruler that's on the Internet of Brandon Wood and Robb Quinlan married I don't think somebody was having fun or something you go -- you'd be up against some pretty good. For marked here.

At there will only be two teams in the race in September would be the Red Sox and rays for the Red Sox and Yankees in your estimation generate.

My guess is that every team at least discussed the name Barry Bonds for maybe ten of thirteen seconds icing on the Yankees would be one of those today at consider bonds seriously. Before they went the sexson --

I don't think so. You know they could still -- hitter now put I think they like respect Barry Bonds that they've they've dislike Barry Bonds for a long long time even before all the steroids stuff I think he they had meetings set up with -- apartment my recollection is correct if it was 2001 and ended up signing that Giambi. And I think he blew them off he used to northern New York at that time he was superstar and he depicted Hendry wants to go now he's got a big play anywhere for the minimum and you know the Yankees will have none of that I think that you know they look at him his 45 isn't played and mostly it's it's a lot of baggage to taken desert there's like one or the other thirty teams not doing it.

Yeah based based on the fact that he goes to trial I think -- next spring march may march or April is he done that we see the last of him and --

I I I am afraid it might be. So. I'm surprised that brought somebody won at thirty -- logical bit surprised that -- union. Is considering pursuing. Collusion case Sunday and in this. In this case but I think it surprised it's okay to make considering all of the issues here -- play. But the other trial you're you're you're right next year's schedule for next year and it could be pushed back who knows that mean that. Really never was big great excuse but I think effectively. Verizon. And the fact it was a very nice fellow a bad break the -- about that think that was the overriding concern.

It. Doesn't make any sense of trials next year and if you -- side items that can be a multi year deal he'd get them for the next two months and -- Benson and.

That's bleed blue and Biggio who pleaded guilty to drunk driving been beating up front look -- the regular drug prize a lot of people that it drunk driving and beating up a friend on the and the good pleading guilty and he he would get a Japanese anywhere now but he hit -- Atlanta's side Yemen they're giving him a chance so in our I think. But is legal. Problems are just took a small part of this I think it's more personality in. And I should come out right now and said -- said something in. Also played the minimum and give it to charity and but that is I have -- is that our guys security kind of guy.

You might be the commission to him in the -- that word out that.

Let me just as good -- I don't know that you'd get thirty team but he -- were out that he didn't want. It seemed to pay big bonuses. For. The first year players -- amateur players you know. As the teams don't let that. You know I think everybody knows that very good would prefer. Preferred but not be at a game I don't think -- percent worn out I think that understood that you know fight hard pretty hard to make a case that that he they all got together -- over this one player and I understand the history of collusion that was Selig but we've I think it was. You brought in charge that time he had been in you know late eighties. So you know -- it's possible that the owners get together group that was over 230 million dollars or more. Not over one guy they didn't like I mean everybody is aware that Selig would not want part of the game and that's understandable -- been a thorn in the side but. And I talked me to believe that all thirty teams are going to get on board. And it had just do favored to Bud Selig that this doesn't happen.

John last night's Mets implosion notwithstanding. The what does Jerry manual was able to do the Willie Randolph hasn't with the Mets.

Do you think there'll be another bitter besides the Red Sox for the services of Jason their attack. Next year into the boards got.

I think -- be -- I mean I don't I think they're looking at the fact that the side I in his mid thirties got a four year deal and they'd probably like to repeat that and that's going to be a tough one to get a four year deal sorted out from Boston which doesn't give those long long deals to guys did their mid thirties. I don't know Biggio Alou I mean he's. Very good defensively as you know and leader and certainly going to be part of their championships in. I'm sure they'll be able to get some -- I mean somebody will want him by looking Yankees may have been like for catchers so don't be interesting to see him come over here with Damon and so -- see him be interesting to see him -- team they ride but wouldn't I wouldn't let out somebody will take him.

I don't this requires of speculation on department of Pedro Martinez missed six or seven weeks with a slight hamstring. This one's going to keep amount to what. Well at eleven there.

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