07-17-08 Steve Bulpett, Boston Herald

Good buddy Steve bullpen from the Boston Herald and see what's going on with the Boston Celtics -- yeah. Odds are you're right I -- you're right I don't know I know I'm sorry I apologize that we does that.

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will -- people what's cool I don't know what judge James -- of course he went to via a New Orleans Hornets there that's the blows if you will what happened what broke down on the Celtics who was it basically just play. He got that fourth or was it as simple as that.

Absolutely. -- the Celtics wanted to get him for two years. You know great feel like it at age 31 will be big and -- about two years. In terms of productivity. And they were concerned about the third year they went for the third year they were not going to go to war. -- and when. -- went in the fourth -- middle part they expect in a pretty good respectable and that other so that was work that that's when the Celtics that's but as far as we donate. I think they draw a line in the sand.

Steve your opinion about the move that Posey made him he's not going to flotsam and -- hitters got Chris Paul and some good pieces there and I mean you know oftentimes to me in these situations come down to they say they want to. Win a championship but then they go for the money but this isn't really a black and white situation I was pretty good team.

I think look. I I think James Posey did exactly the right thing for James Posey. This was his last big contract. That you're going to get -- and you know or -- by by mediate standard over his career and it was his opportunity. Is coming up the championship one of which Kia contributed 12 which contributed greatly and he was going to make his move I don't begrudge developing.

If anyone should begrudge him at all. Because you're you know certainly don't lose a lot ago. And when you talking about you know deep in the Stanley and how. People who come after him are going to live and be able living go to college and do all those things. You know. And it was great move by against Oden that. The Celtics may be you know made it calculated decision. That I think is rather risky. But you know kind of I don't fall into -- football -- certainly on this.

Steve what are we umps aren't with Steve what are we gonna -- James Posey are you want to -- gas in the camp and he's a great guys are glue guy they can't do without them or do you look at him. As Woody is basically here's the got a please pretty good defense but he seven points a game and he's replaceable -- out there place that's the next question to.

That's -- that's the issue being look I think -- who was important. He helped to look at his numbers it is raw numbers and say James Posey. Get what went in numbers happen. The guy who news. Better equipped. Then some -- start your teammates. To make contributions. In the last two minutes of the game. These guys fearless. This guy use. We'll get on the war he has no concern about. Hey I need my -- is that not you know. That's laden is look at Hitler and I'm not I. I think it's going to miss him greatly and beyond that beyond what you saw. Was the back beat James Posey had the ability. To keep Kevin Garnett aside in the walk from NCAA. And talked to him and have Garnett listened and I think that that is in and value.

Steve did that happen a lot to that happened more than we know about.

I -- a picnic in the sense that you know what what he can hit me you're screwing up but -- the gentle reminders you ability you know. James Posey at the kind of credibility. Not just because of what he's done but because of the kind of -- years. Q what is going to guide it's -- a you know do actually do what I'm going to be up there look at look at my stats came as both went out every night and plate for the who bought himself the name of one of the Jersey. And I think that the value I think the -- as the -- in the cauldron but can find good players. To replace James Posey. But can they find guys who are willing to buy into the bank to things as well James.

Also I think I missed the intangibles that you brought.

And in also. You know the Cubs -- better -- this year because. They had Kevin Garnett and James Posey there to complement guys like Kendrick Perkins it was a very strong. Interior defender and -- on Rondo was the heat as the beast to who really took over game -- against the Lakers early. And took away -- will salute. With his speed it's. You know it's important what those guys that. This is -- the things I'm not it's gonna talk about deep sense I'm gonna get my based on the war and do it and I I think that's the I think it. Did he gains it made you know he's an awful lot with this I'm not saying that that he won't. The other the right pieces and and come back from this and even even better position. Down maligned especially because of not having oppose these contract. In the last couple years. But I think it is the very least he's put themselves while on the line -- with I need to come up and have to fill those kind of situations that that Posey was great.

into nasty bullpen and Boston Herald Larry relief which stands. Excuse me in for dale and -- here and over the past they vote when you talk about James Posey of course he's have been on two of the last three NBA champions. How do they replacement who you think it will be with.

Well. I'm not sure exactly. The late now. I think you know at this point. This so what's it going to look at it perhaps some deals well it's good because he created there I think he may see a trade or sign and trade. But. They also may wait a while because you really want to see what we have. In JR -- who is. You know a pretty good player this guys active but I think. It itself it into them you really make it to see this kid.

Chris Wallace said he was the best athlete in the NBA draft this year.

Yet he -- aptly it it makes you think okay he's going to be going to go in the end. What is his jump shot it's going to look like he came weight room or something. That -- This guy and shoot. The guys who really intrigues me Bill Walker. Those guys to play your -- out and you don't know to what extent he's been -- issues are going to hinder him if at all. But this guy was put into play and I saw him in high school game in person -- OJ Mayo and this guys that stuff and I've seen him on TV last year. We're with Kansas State. This act and play real well and the question -- is. And I kind of alluded to -- to it today is that. You're the Celtics and -- he's got to win now because what you have up top what you're paying. Have to win now.

Since Steve about this clearly with at least the James -- just talk about most clearly in this situation in championship team. Has now taken a role player that was part of a championship that his intangibles. Were all the veteran type of things he's been there before done that they put -- value on that they didn't decide the -- we look at the current Patriots car Red Sox even go back to the eighty's Celtics and now they've decided the only option they have right now until they make a move. Are a couple of rookies kittens or walker. It's not -- can't work. But they clearly don't have the intangibles depose him I think of the Patriots adding in skill players we brought Laurence Maroney and stuck him right in the middle of this offense but then I think back to the ninety's when they had Keith byers and Dave meg going to go back -- the -- Celtics with. Ceased being in Redmond and even bill Walton that year. So it's not that these rookie guys can't work Larry and I before the show were looking at the stats in college when these guys that the play every day. And Gibbons was. Fourteen points a game 46%. Sure over four years in college and -- one game what I think Mike is he in the mix at all for any of those minutes are.

I like it could last week bloody -- in the mid in the mix it. That. You know that have been out -- and come -- he's he's going to be an X series he's he's pretty good player to the difference but that we talked about you is is are we try to compare to the Patriots because. And any in any given time. He looked he'd -- you stick out there at the Patriots want to weapons -- on the field this is talking about. What if we -- stand here and there's also the issue of exposure. You know guys who shoots 45%. -- call right. Won't necessarily. When there's -- in the game in the school hours and you're in the -- opened up an Auburn Hills.

What's he all I'm saying. It's. Right to break point and all outstanding it's not that it can't be done we've seen it on and when you have. Garnett pierce and Allen. I mean they're like you said. There it's kind of a risky move for them right now at this point if if if this is all we've seen. If there and I would I would be shocked if they don't bring in some type of veteran presence especially post leaves and by the way what is up with him.

Well. What is second went for what it is that you look at the two years. And the Celtics believe that -- in yet a backup point guard got a handle those minutes. For veteran minimum and -- becomes kind of a cot thing as well. Let's go over the looked attack which means every dollar they spend. Yet. Get taxed dollar for dollar so it only got two million dollar contract. Portland and they got to stand -- in the case of of what got you signed two veteran minimum. One year contract the lead. Reimburses you like about and so it but it's about the bat that just way to go one will think of the week it would collective bargaining. When coached teams. To keep it to keep signing veterans and keep him in the lead. So what is that what you what is our rest here and help a person is. I think what changes -- yeah I know he's not done with this thing here I think this move is where he. You'll look however at what he's done in the past. -- you have to go by suggests. That he'll fight his way. Okay little like the way out of it pretty well -- be a particular to -- All I'm saying is. You can have the ball Larry -- into the three point line with three seconds ago and the evidence suggests he's going to make the shot. But he's still going to make the shot right.

And we I don't have -- yet again. We have no proof that he's going to -- Christina ago all Red Sox calls 1000001 guy who wants talks Celtics -- going to put him on -- limit. -- that I just an -- that. Okay Dave there you go you got a question for Steve.

Yeah he played good good good. I I agree with most of what you're saying about James Posey. But here's the thing don't you think -- be a cigarette or he went to -- further away I mean most people don't even know that there or at once the game here. -- and honestly I honestly here. They're good -- that you could name five. On the on its roster the other thing is yes he has been part of two championship team. But look at the core players on the Miami Heat when they wanted to point -- point they do not win that championship without Dwyane Wade wade. Woods. In that you're thirty points a game in the finals yeah and and it I'm not this thing is quality you're the guy needs. Absolutely important contribution brought I think would be any doing here. It adopting in the -- agree with you is adopting the bell a check methodology in that. You know when when Vince -- and that but -- nine you know the Patriots are going to have options you know they're going to know how to deal with it. I think he's looking at this and saying he'd get three veteran guys -- a contract that -- for five years. If he tied up Posey for four years that -- thirty. That are going to be tied up with big money. And it I don't run out -- It better limited flexibility not next year -- And I just wonder what you.

I don't disagree with you all I'm saying is that -- is put the ball well I think he's got to make the caller moves -- they keep the team competitive. I'm not saying he will do it it's just mentioned at all evidence which if any it will make the right moves to make it to make the team good. But -- you want thing I would I would article about it so little bit -- is the stuff about what he had Dwayne wade here. Look of course at the the great you know players that are played in the big minutes and put up the numbers to win but look at this year so -- Debate -- in the championship. Without watch on Rondo. Stuck in your point guard that everybody was nervous about two incredible ends before the season. Debate with a championship -- without Kendrick Perkins. Who you saw what happened. You saw what this team lacked interior toughness without him. And in how important what you saw that in game five and LA. -- all the sudden how this all comes walking and -- in his fifties mister and we know he's not eat at Uga.

Yeah but Steve I would I would wanted to emphasize his point is point besides Rondo was an easy unique case -- just the position and the maturity experience. I don't think you can give me another guy that I could definitively saying no they don't win a championship without. Perkins I mean that means that Polk gets more minutes does that mean they can't do it would always always has trouble -- and -- you know once and I don't think it's that clear cut.

Well not upset I think it is -- regardless if you talk about beyond hope verses Kendrick Perkins you know the site different. -- and I know that right yet but I'll saying is that is it takes a lot of different pieces. What you haven't seen Posey was the guy who didn't or couldn't put all of the things that you were talking about it that. Which is important eat out the physical abilities. To -- make shots. To be defensively. To get out in our guys have different sizes. But you -- the -- the mental make up this. Well I don't mind the final either basketball. I'll do this job and I'll do with gusto. And -- haven't gotten it and and also. He's the guy picks and -- stepped up the game the games. And it is and likes those situations as important. -- go back -- Antonio Spurs. And -- their best player who didn't know -- second best player and has -- and in original was ankle was okay you've probably seen the Spurs in the final this year. But at what they have won without certain old guys that made key contributions. Throughout the -- now that old saying it unique apple or package. You know -- like that support.

But all I'm saying is that did those guys are replaceable much more so than the weeds of the Garnett of the Duncan's obvious.

Absolutely. And that and that's what -- now is that. He's put himself in position where now he's got -- replacement he's got to make the right move that they you know look if you look at it in him for immediate issues. Involving the Celtics -- like I mentioned today it'll played at night scored just doesn't matter right now the most immediate. Of what happened with posed. Is that the 88 not that -- is critical for people want the peace we'll we'll work this summer. But you want to pick a shot at and figure what Adam.

Steve let me ask you this and of course our group the impose -- saw him at that game winning shot to put the money -- about thirty seconds left in Dallas. Well to win a championship so we will be missed let me ask you about two guys. Darius Miles of course coming off the micro fracture surgery hasn't played the last two years how intriguing is the and what about TE Tony Allen coming back next.

My elbow and -- lot of agencies work. Good price or work out so it was. Yeah but I think you're you know he's got issues but what the Palestinians has been. Very much inclined. To to look at guys in and see how they -- to take chances with people like that.

Trash or treasure no disrespect -- really it's a way a lot of teams. But it's Abraham with the Red Sox -- taking -- again.

But he that that you know so they've done what it was that the 88 is made you know our our guys like that -- pick out of the world and you know got good enough players but not that -- what your pain -- role. You're expecting them two to settle. I think Tony -- to meet. Use the move very intriguing. The issue here because -- Tony -- I think would mean it is guys would cheer and the player I think the biggest problems with Tony Allen. Are are -- you know. About colonial shoulders. He came back with knee injuries. Fairly well. By his constant. And how he -- LIP. In the and so more. I think he's a they wouldn't even if it's. Has proved he can play. -- an advocate of bringing him back. If all week because if anything happens to Ray Allen. You're gonna need to throw guy in there who you know can can keep you twenty points and not when you needed in the NBA.

I can defend twos athletic too.

Absolutely. Look at this point -- would just you know this guy is is a gunslinger type. You know he is a little bit out there you know on the on the group leader. He's a good -- And he plays hard and he can do this -- in the NBA are panic that crazy people -- well he scored a bunch of points on a bad team. You know what was being guarded by good players. Okay and it wasn't just Jack it up Scott you -- and to my saturation score.

No he opened a lot of -- your right Steve I think he did in and it's the it is the chicken and the egg thing in -- some like him my question about him is what are what exactly is his contract situation which -- going to take. To have -- off topic.

Is that he's a free agent because they didn't have the opportunity for next year. He unrestricted.

You gotta move on got to make a three year for your commitment to this kid if you want him right. -- are signing to a deal that traded yeah.

Well that's not -- matter what people willing to opera you know. You know it. James Posey was war -- excellent -- If the people want to hadn't stepped up with the sport here there's the question whether anyone else what. And you know big big -- did not like he has. James Posey four years old that while they know they took on a contract. At the chance to be that. But the situation like this so that's what accurately say we need to make a move to get to that well. And -- stance somewhat you know the guys who pay your victory. You'll extent yeah -- yourself structure. The question whether it's what the -- and Al Jefferson who's going to be an all star winter and Garnett is suppan drinks were going to pro in about Malibu. You know wet well after he retired got a risk you're taking.

So what's it going to take to sign now what are we talking about money -- about 69 million bucks.

I'd much I would not so important out perhaps the you know teams are going to do we know about him as well. This is a god who you know who is coming off injuries coming up you know -- reconstruction. And with the guys that that his team needed last year but in key situations didn't --

We don't label now game five against the -- the muscles and so on.

it -- and I play on the back in game six but you know look at Tony Allen is -- and I'm not in a participant on doc. We're not trust them more. But -- and let them go out there and and you know letting him make his mistakes and stick with it. And quite -- mistakes which didn't happen a whole lot. But I think Tony is it the Celtics only held what he has been and has been shown -- be the night it does so -- qualities you're. Getting Peru. Atlanta and Cleveland. Or other athlete out there must mean it would not about to happen but top run. 88 spit in July 1 of the US like hell I think what changed called the Atlanta Hawks played against itself.

Steven got a break real briefly. Would neighbor America's and I took lots of calls about that and I you've been in this town along time would do if you're the Red Sox come November. The -- simply exercise the option bring him back to twenty million -- you -- and on.

Our way I would. I'd bring him back for one year twenty million but I wouldn't I wouldn't do -- extension. I think that there are guys out there and if you their guys if -- territory. And the you get him or something reasonable. But it you know it -- gory -- let you know. This guy walks in the taxes says my you know my brother. You know he sees this is a check it and the guys as well you know agreement -- therapy in the got to know we need earrings.

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