Tue, 15 Jul 2008|
Ken spoke with Michael and Joe Haggerty from the site of the All-Star Game in New York. He talked about the HR derby, the game, and some trade rumors around the Red Sox.
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I joining us now on the eighteenth -- hotline from fox sports -- general at all Amanda -- about words the Award is missing from a Ken Rosenthal column. It will cause them ME evils that night.
Michael you were right there. You know writers think and yet I don't --
That's right a missing work. Did you call the people who editors Torre's usage you know you know why am -- on TV with Tim McCarver and Joe -- you can't be messing with my words right.
I don't do that now but. All but dead -- moment -- we is where perhaps we. We took liberties with an editor that we were going to.
Exactly they saved as more often than not can we got Joe had -- Joe Hagerty sitting with this today. I'll start out by asking about the all star scene in New York what is that like. Is is it a lot of hype about Yankee Stadium in the last year. The last all star game there or have you gotten caught up in the emotion.
Well well it definitely a lot of hype. New York and -- in. Certainly the -- around the game is maybe a little bit bigger than even. It usually is but. Clearly it is special occasion. Finally here at stadium and I know it fox is looking forward despite for a long time. And most fans. Are looking forward to reputed to it spectacle all of favors. Paraded. Is going to be unique and quality is unique as Fenway in 1990 intently and I don't know because that was spontaneous thing that happened with the players gather round. The -- that they showed him. That's something you can't manufacture. But who knows what might happen and I.
I'm not a huge fan of of the home run hitting contest on a year to year basis and I was very interested in 99. When Mark McGwire was at Fenway Park and you know just was just blasting balls over the -- it was a real surreal atmosphere but I gotta admit last night. I made sure I was watching on TV when when Josh Hamilton came up in Yankee Stadium that at towards the end of it. And put on just an absolute display my question for you is is has there been a better. Rags to riches story a success story whatever you want to college since -- been covering baseball than Josh Hamilton and what he's been able to do what he's turning himself into.
Joe I would -- no. Simply because. He came in the --
And is reached. It would. He's -- the -- Americans -- in the first half. People got a firsthand look at is often physical ability. Last night and it is difficult to imagine historic quite like it. There are other stores and you'll start he had are equally. Election -- intriguing. -- court order for the Orioles and independently. But yours. And here it is in the off target. And originally -- 500 dollar that a independently. If I don't at the Mariners if they gave a chance that double play all the Yankees were only offer clap. They're -- rapidly through it and -- way it is. -- figured -- of redemption as Josh Hamilton. Is people forget that Bradley what really even spot start to see. -- Because of his injury knee surgery and -- he did it at a great first after of course at all problem. Emotionally which is fully aware of me understand the criticism he's received four -- or other help our redemption. It got Pavel in the they all -- all seem to hell which showed the power is story. The -- portrait. It is great.
And why can't the National League win this game.
I don't doubt and like we're looking at night lineup and I actually think the National League. Has the chance. And you're going to sell just hype educated and and always -- to -- illegal it really. Well one doesn't always think without good finished as an odd years and two. With Jeter down this year with Ichiro. Many getting out what he once was. We K rod not having a year. Quite as good as he did last year. Hanley Ramirez but Burke who -- chipper. Matt Holliday Ryan brought. That's one different. Clearly people and it will go to the American League as a several arbitration -- Any. There's no reason or explanation why. I don't understand it it makes no sense edition of one type it in walking that your history prevent it -- of course I can't. I do want to say one thing. I was about apple model will be yesterday not -- session. But what instead about want to quote has been. I would say old -- people out of proportion. He did not. Indicate disrespect from are are very fit as a competitor. Of course you want to quote and if you're hurt -- anybody else circular but you be disappointed if it was otherwise. Any any New York. I think --
I'll bet they would they would say earlier about New York has arrived in York is big over I don't.
So little bit bigger -- guys got a little but I advocate. In some quarters he can proceed. As disrespectful to repair. When in reality that's that's not particularly to the moment that I would they -- now over at what our editor's decision. Players could get excited can maybe change this story but. I topic Papelbon is. A guy who doesn't understand what Mariano Rivera is -- he said several -- I would buy -- table. There is a pecking order in baseball. You have to put your turn. It's fully aware that so. Jonathan Papelbon not being great -- Disrespectful he was fine papers went crazy.
I think most media members in New York they asked that famous question about it being three guys like to have dinner with. From history they would say Martin Luther King Ghandi and Mariano Rivera.
Talk about this guy like he's untouchable well. You have to be a great and starting in the Austin it was very contrived typical New York media story after the talking about let.
He has degree of the greatest closer. I've seen in my lifetime there's no doubt about that -- this. Let's have it then that's fitting tribute for Mariano. The final all star game at Yankee Stadium is for him to start in. Jonathan Papelbon a closer. Derek how dairy state that he might want to close an all star game.
Armored. The Rivera starter and it was kind of neat but. It goes back to what whatever result called integrity of eight and I remembered that you desperation McGwire. And basically he was using China they hate each pitch in the -- it would probably pitched pretty good litigate every game. Obviously -- exhibition as happen. In it now. But pitcher -- first. Probably wouldn't put too much attention on and is not. Out of -- irony. Like that. Is gay dating game. And it won't do any gesture at some weight but you'll -- character. In terms of baseball clearly. And Francona had a pretty well I thought that it was a night he had at least deserved. What -- consideration but ultimately not the right there.
Are right now we're going to move on a little bit from the all star game gets some of the juicy stuff here can -- The reading from your column I got a little nugget about Chad Lowry in you basically said. That some with some of the Red Sox staff for kind of maybe a little turned off by the note all manner and that kind of attributed it to. To Stanford University where he played baseball and which regulated. Did it real surprise of all I'm hearing it and and do you think.
A lot oh I heard it all about all -- ever player that I ever covered. And it got it obviously like any young player and they. I think what people law was just an overall approach demeanor refugees what is it. Not uncommon among young players. Probably is brought down today and if he's more he'll figure out both. On the field obviously -- is. Approachable learning -- all those states as well.
Talking to scouts do you get the sense that in this 46 window 46 week window that Lugo is out that Lowry is going to be able take over and perform as a shortstop.
There's always been a little bit of doubt on some out of ten. Andy there -- some -- don't believe he's everyday shortstop. The Red Sox see him as a Billy Miller I can inflation. It is not the same as Andy Ramirez. Over this window it's going to be actually get this. See what exactly all about. But over the trying to create. Between core and -- issue if it they got 8 o'clock it is shortstop that would be overkill. And let's face it while you can make its case that they can to shortstop. We probably all agree on. We got Lugo are more years. At least in the short term you gotta make it work idiot you know. But right now you've got to figure out. Just how to get it at all. I work properly should be right word and if Lugo because he had so much.
101 of the rumored deals we were talking about today and yesterday. Is. Mark Teixeira for Kevin Youkilis what do you think of that trade of that proposal.
So little sense for the Red Sox -- it and the -- credit. Couple -- that I actually not hurt myself I've ordered it and I is. Teixeira for you were there. So we're talking about you -- Teixeira. For. -- well here's a view with five refused and initiated in which you could actually outperform to share. Now. A more logical scenario. Will be at the end -- Signed Jaret creating Youkilis left field to decline option on Manny Ramirez. -- open source said. Especially given your facts. Won the rays are not anywhere you're ready to trade this year they still want to get back -- it. Now we can debate whether they will get back into this thing in over the next few weeks we will find out the reality whether they are in or out. It is not a cut and -- He's accustomed to being at a rate. So they're going to giving every shot. Too. Big poppy at least right now. In -- track. Beckett back likely sit at a good round BP yesterday. With no one knows not electing not anyone. If people come back and be what they eat -- But it's the same time. If you make this trade. It Big Papi healthy you can make it work that question but I'm not saying well I don't necessarily believe it took effect I would suggest you don't.
What's it take to sign this guy. To share.
How much money what are. You think he's worth that.
He's really good. Don't know before that. Well explain what vehicle that he is not a guy who has proven itself on this kind of stage one off you're. I'm 48. Yet so whoever switch hitter with power. Who plays -- what he. And is still relatively young guys when they're 29. And is that how his whole career animals sports so. Either very attractive. Is he going to be. Albert Pujols now he's the true although that putt. In the second half goal always catch fire very it got sort of a little bit earlier and actually. His feet and started -- So -- very -- guy twenty million a year. Don't know but you know what Michael. When you say it he -- and if somebody hated you or.
They act and the -- conspiracy theorist in me kinda thinks that maybe. The Mark Teixeira rumors possibly could be out there is some kind of a bigs smokescreen that drives all the attention because he's he's -- high profile guy. And allows the Red Sox a little bit ago and maneuvering in and progress in their trade talks with a with some of the other people out there in Major League Baseball my question -- you is. And it knowing that Damaso Marte has been a guy that they've kind of learn what the past. What's the situation with him how much interest do you think the Red Sox have with in him.
Almost all the Pittsburgh players right now the -- from like hey maybe eighty Jacque day. Is that the prices and the as we sit here on July 15. We your quote it right there short. -- I -- it. Might that change in the next few week absolutely changed but at least at this moment. The Red Sox or any other eight what I want marte. Though the partnership that. We control. What K -- undefeated and pictures well -- 88. We can trade now. -- treated -- if it with the treatment next July we don't out there when it from a financial perspective it don't. Previously -- so that could be in order your judgment as well. But ultimately. They're going to have to move on these guys in my. Whether it -- I don't know that the surest thing by the way. Is smokes. It stands to reason. That you would call great but hey if you move to share certainly it was called that helped you operate I think football and they're not ever. The idea that it would actually happen just. I'll a lot of factors. Into it again to put you that you bought five years and it. -- share for coupons but -- well you draft -- but. I would stake would not like Patrick.
You're right and here's my last question for you and I asked you this because I know Europe beltway insider. I I remember everytime I I would take a trip to Washington and Baltimore. In the you know lady late eighties early ninety's. I remember reading. Inevitably some column from somebody and some paper. About other needs to be baseball in DC in DC can support baseball Peter Angelos is evil because. He's keeping baseball lot of DC can he just -- Orioles that he what that market all for the Orioles. Okay not the complaining finally DC get the baseball team. NBC and can DC supported. He really the the attendance is not good the team is not. The new ballpark hasn't. Sold out I mean. Was it just a lot of complaining and and not. Not people to back it up.
No I would sit through it now. Any. Michael. That market a much different market -- it was definitely. The first a lot of money there are huge. And -- should be able to work. With the right kind of --
The problem as well stick. And not only is it bad it Horry mean that it really star power. So.
That's like -- all are being. The disappointment Italy. They are. Sort of like the red hot commodity according a lot of resources to. Developing young talent and they underway in this regard. But ultimately. Give yourself a chance in any market necklace which Seattle and Cleveland -- Atlanta for that you ballparks in the teams or good. You've got to put a competitive product on the field. And only -- you judge whether mark it is good or not you can look at the Florida market in Miami right now well. He's been competitive. -- And they don't draw almost regardless of what happened. You pretend that. It okay you can they won't stating that that they would issue but certainly goes without question they ask. We both those franchise. Which -- It's just too -- and if they succeed and still don't draw which I would doubt it struck out there or. They talked.
What can we always appreciate the time have fun with the game tonight and we will talk about. On the school you'd drop in tonight's game next Tuesday going to have some group you probably yeah holding onto it right now you don't want to share with mister.
but fortunately I have not value will try to. That's not going to be. Well -- Joe Hagerty will be well he'll be back tomorrow we will be talking about. Did you see what Ken Rosenthal said last night we're going to breakdown Rosenfels performance tonight after that's over there and watched.
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