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Jim joined Dale and Michael to speak about the O's, the Hall of Fame, among other topics.
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We were mentioning earlier that if you're gonna talk baseball there -- few people that we enjoy doing it more -- Then this guy who works on the Baltimore Orioles telecast with my buddy Gary Thorne. He is the Hall of Fame pitcher and former Baltimore Oriole great Jim Palmer Jim dale on Michael again how are.
Welcome back to Boston. -- just it and then. Now.
Watch it tonight but I was. Just gave up just forty all. Hopefully. It of late fall or. Were gonna win games. I don't well. Let's I don't know that you know it. Up front of why did he. In. Or gators. Ought to go -- we only got a lot of water. Whatever. The Orioles. -- Well you do in. Well. It's worked there when he. -- surprised.
Well I was going to ask you about the Orioles today they're still hanging around not a great team. What do you what do you see. From this Orioles team we talking about eighty and 82 or are we talking about a surprise 85 and 77 what what do you what's your what's your sense of this team.
Well. -- games. Under 500. Are you very. The -- to have Brian Roberts. Roberts. Here a year. It is dirtier players. Are well. He. Light -- be like Mike -- well actually run the bases. You know he cater to all all of the deal. -- For the Orioles -- you know more your daughter's 4. Ours. It is he. -- Here he would he you know. Offensive prizes you know the all very girl the girl. -- But I think really very good step up you know adverse the -- the only good news for the Orioles. Verses. Exit but he's yet to record. Oh by the area or worst game. It's extra -- which. That year -- Other. Three here. He's ever going to beat the reds especially thirty but as for as well. People. In.
We've asked Terry Francona this question and and I'm curious to future take how this team can beat the Red Sox I mean can be so great at home as you pointed out. And it really rather pedestrian on the road when they played in Baltimore this year the Orioles have had a lot of success especially against Hideki Okajima.
Well yeah. -- Changeup after through out all right to. -- as or it will all work there. Parker or -- ballpark. Your pitcher you were. -- It's well. You know we are here Lester is in theory under -- for all. It is already wailed with the green monster. The Orioles all it pretty well last year. There's what factor. You'll read. Sometimes. Look back or are that the numbers. All very that would -- your -- that he. There are actually it's. -- general manager. Better idea what what. The statistics. Are pretty good agent. Order which players pitchers. Were. Able.
Jim I was reading about -- this morning in the Boston Globe apparently going to be on. Real sport. Without ocostas now on HBO talking about Hall of Fame consideration this is this something that made him out of wherever it is is something that you've been passionate about that you talked about the -- and that's why they asked you to. Be a part of the panel.
You don't actually. Yours. Again. -- I'm on record. Oh so. Yours. Are there. -- try to forget all. Altered. -- It. --
We've had our our own Hall of Fame discussions here on this show. Let me ask you this are there. Guys that -- you played we have played against story just have admired throughout baseball history. That aren't in the Hall of Fame that book that you believe should be there.
Well it is obvious choice for love. To. Know. What. Right here. Which you know. We're at thirty or. You know or lower. Don't want it -- Or. Oh I'd be beat. Me. A pick it. Prematurely. Or. Is. It. That way. -- Other upper right 100. He's. Been a better all around players. Or war or. Austin. 8. So on so there -- a lot of guys. Are. Probably as though there. I get -- reality here it's. -- Pitcher. In regard. You know. What what all the market Miller. Of course you know I voted for mark every year and -- because it. Based based would be like -- are.
The Red Sox have some good young pitchers both here at the Major League level and percolating through the minor league system. You're going to see Clay Buchholz again tonight his first start at the Major League level since may twelfth. He threw the no hitter against the Orioles last September. What have you thought about some of their young guys and I'm talking about Buchholz Lester Masterson Papelbon that group.
Well we ought or you know that girl that -- interesting article -- Figure that the dominated Europe -- won't read the Asia. Closer because he felt the yeah. You know I'd never thought that it. Occurred art and it's. Players. Have goals. -- obvious your you know your. Your rare so it -- course. It curtail point eight you know. -- Starting pitcher it would be -- the -- your all -- there. That are -- especially. Want. You know is it. Is going to be that it -- that that it. Or. -- up another great status you know prepare for it and it. There's not anybody on your roster -- and there'll for. You know there some guys were under these are or. Nobody ever got -- well all the oh. It's obvious you -- the media trusting people back. I think arguably. As good as well but there's been there now. Albania. River here -- away. Where earlier ought to test yet for. Routes -- city. -- And watch your back or or. We. Changes. Your arms. At all -- L a or work or. -- The interest in numbers in. Double. We're all -- all -- a lot of -- Which is. Here. -- You know -- Ellsbury. -- So it'll be an entry to -- it. You know I think -- go back. -- what was it. He'd be a role that it -- art art. He just about it that the especially. It yet to be patient in what about these. Urlacher were. It is -- great. Winning. That worked.
And -- one of the guys who have been talking about a lot this week and last week and the week before. As Jason Varitek you talk about being patient some fans. Have lost their patience with him because -- the an awful. Slop hitting in the 220s. What have you seen from the games you watched from -- subjected you see the same guy.
Well you know he's he's always been kind of streaky hitter. You know I think. He guided the oh only that it that are you know most. You know obvious which are -- you look it's it's -- what -- you know all we. -- a lot of times where what's. That are there he looks very it is eat it's pretty impregnable and there are other other games where. -- couple I passed all that -- but he -- But. You had David Ortiz in your lineup. You really would not -- whether they're acting like -- Worked very well. Because probably it's 180 -- if you need to be you know all while. Because it's a shortstop is such for a position you know everybody was waiting and Lugo was -- well early in the air all year. You know actors pop the ball did. You know -- all the all people all but the one thing and they're -- it's very well. You know other -- pitching -- Most. -- that position as -- the answer he.
And just a follow up when that we have a discussion yesterday. About the the role of the relationship between a pitcher and catcher and -- Hall of Fame pitcher. What was it like for you did you call your own game and you said yard maybe Ellis into the catcher when he percent of the time or. Did you follow your catcher. 75% of them -- a breakdown for you.
Ball just to work all it. In those eight Ers are -- it's only Euro. Which they. It's ever grow urged better -- So I pretty much that we are we -- early. Of course you know. See you that you -- I think ultimately. You can while you. I think election have a better situation. In normal 81 up after all only suggestion. You know. He talked about it he'd hear about it that you which. I don't like ticket and -- All these late but as he. More experience. More trust. Do I probable you audible. You you know sometimes you just use your articles -- that pitched well the but I -- Watching the Red Sox went there respect as well prepared. You know. Q at this second best this is -- it's not by accident you have a game plan. Try to period. I think that's what you eat -- vegetables. An extra pitcher and it's not just about last signal -- about -- You know are we committed to actually. You don't want to virtual -- against you know I think next year or did execute well -- I think it's important to make sure it is pitcher every possible. Opportunity field.
Do you think in and we've had this discussion a lot this week about -- attacking game preparation and all those things you've discussed.
Well. What you guys and -- activities here. Think that was the number yeah. You want to have or your. So again. All you out shoes watch pitchers. Get. If you. Realize. There are. And you know the other thing Lester it is no it's not about me. You know -- Ignited understand it and you know look I was black and Red Sox for which is awkward and off we. Because we Israel they take off the -- You know I'll -- it would. You know good. You know work and might. Well work work you know growing network -- So forth so you know this is the before they what we do help out with its. You know that's which needed and that's why the red birds. You know up that the players but I think you also have their -- players you know the Yankees for years -- mobile. -- You know you know mark. Revere -- On the open. At the end of the -- you got a technical understand David Jason --
Well since you're going to be on the -- panel as a as a Hall of Fame. Commentator. We should prep you for that by ask you do you believe that Curt Schilling of the Hall of Fame --
Well I don't know -- are two of the writers appear at a read the article. I -- Oh -- probably. But he certainly knows these. Games. Which is pretty good honored here. A lot strike outs. But I I ended the interview -- You held. Over the last. Year well here. At a big game at a game. --
Jack Morris. Yeah but the point is yeah and Schilling as a lot of course there's great games which. And you know we need -- Kurt -- you know you're gonna do well. You ought to be. So. I think we it'll be. You know candidate is the don't -- all -- knows that you pitched in this here. At cartoon characters you know. All reform. Or panic was. You know poor. You know. Or whatever you know it you're at at really --
Oh it's it's here. -- Mature and yet. Red Sox. Would rather have out there you know is that there's.
I was music. Right to your point I think I would take Curt Schilling over Roger Clemens. I might even take him over Greg Maddux in the big game.
Hewitt -- medics ever pitched. You know the United posters up. Oh. -- gave up -- Wonder. You know so. The point is that that would be all partners you. -- You know I hope he comes back -- you know and urged him but you know what -- state which. What was that you people while they're.
Maybe you guys will be in Baltimore next year and you guys can -- blog blog together -- We do to actually Jim it's always such fun for us to talk baseball with yet we always appreciate you taken the time and thank you again. -- they -- thanks that is the great Jim Palmer yeah.
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