07-01-08 Ken Rosenthal, Fox Sports

Back on the dale and Holley show. You know what time it is well. This time music comes about 25 minutes earlier but today is a special day and -- man. Joining us now on the eighteenth tee hotline from fox sports' Ken Rosenthal I must telescope for us because he had to move -- time 25 minutes so. Can hello Mike finance ski and I give -- that breaking news that you were going to.

The breaking Michael is that at this -- The television and a week this summer program Theriot gets hurt and out you know look at bridge and opera that is that called.

I would say it's breaking news because you have to you know somebody and Nintendo -- so that's breaking out as at all -- payroll and -- people to get one of those that.

It outside their trick or not come on line. Has it.

Aaron Guiel and in the lead -- your notes column is what today.

It's about the Dodgers and Diamondbacks and what they need to do. Trade -- as we go forward here in the July.

Well I do want to ask you about that but but before we get.

Broke up but -- there.

Are under way before we get the Dodgers and arm back that was going to say maybe your -- beat should be boxing now yet Ed wade situation Houston got Manny. In Boston let's start -- Manny. Excuse me what what your take on this. On this incident and -- think or from what you heard the Red Sox do you think they're going to do anything or done anything to the disciplinary.

I doubt very seriously doubted -- people from this point and it goes back to the sense of entitlement and privilege that so many special athletes have not just -- It's funny Michael actually kind of stat left that this -- you can't -- it up there. And if so why won't get treated me cold actually. The lead by Ramirez that the -- and I hit it in that fashion and only later. After it started thinking about it make it. Ticked off because you know what we're so far gone of this stuff that we don't even know -- considerate. Outrageous for the time in the way that we should I don't know the reaction to this oh my gosh. There actually laminated it definitely going to be this when it happened and you know what -- its worst and I don't think it will column it. But that the discipline and internal -- well at least was a period of time because they'll go on but trash the sixty year old it to the ground. That is disgrace. Any ever written column that I follow along that they got twenty million dollar option without hesitation. Did you know the people and it just time for all of us say -- we don't need this anymore and I know there are certain reckless spent it over actually this. But fake lottery -- twenty million spent in other ways this kid is true -- in the short term that they can live without wanted to be. And I'm not -- it would be better just going forward in part because Manny is not the many of five years. Many of five years ago you basically have to say okay open the option of Ottawa. But there are slight decline in almost social war that direct side will be best served cold on -- well get this second.

Agenda that's argue with you when you talk about the option years that the Red Sox have won many. I would -- not simply because of the incident but because of the 1836 year old. And you do see some slippage that you set I just -- I've been I've been trying to do this the last couple days. You've covered baseball lot longer than I have. I've been trying to explain exactly what traveling secretary guys from your eyes what is the role of the traveling secretary.

Mostly it's to arranged to travel which is just the title describe and that -- the -- the buses. -- from hotels and airports. It's a more involved topic throughout the average person might take any huge element also -- it. Secretary helped players to a lot of different odds say you know I think Aaron. And tickets all winter that the players arrangement I am -- going on MLB dot com some special -- at the league. But traveling secretary if I'll get more ticket did they like that. What a person -- player answers sixteen tickets on the day of the game that is extremely well. And -- there have to wait get ready Jack or America quite every count I read simply said hey how much we can do it at. Again what why do you -- not. Not just many believe a lot of players think of people like Jack McCormick as there -- certain a lot of other players treat people like Jack on very well.

AA just but Gary.

Really disgraceful that the -- into disgrace or.

it's like minutes you know we're setting you mentioned the disgraceful as of this and I couldn't agree more but aren't -- setting a bad precedent when it. Whether you're a Major League football player NFL player Major League Baseball player whatever it is you are almost allowed to without repercussion that we know yet publicly from the Red Sox. Put your hands on a team and play whether it's John Henry Theo Epstein or Jack McCormick. -- the Red Sox might not publicly punishing him saying look if you're a star athlete you can get away with whatever you want here this organization.

reality where we are huge sport in society age. Yes to edit it well but that the world the world of professional sports college athletics to a degree. It's elegant or it'll play the players achieve a restraining rules that apply you a normal -- It -- physical world and wasn't. Is it -- you guys it is total or it's WEE Saturday if I had to someone I work as a horse to speak. And rightly so but this is professional sports and they handled things over there and there's not much you can say about it and I get up emphasized. It's just sucked as a whole world and NBA NFL picture oh you name it. And there's no going back.

Now the other incidents happened in Houston not surprised I read the headline that's it well. Ken Rosenthal headline on your. With the sentence conduct unbecoming a general manager I thought you were about you. Take out the side of Shawn -- you didn't do that headline. Suck me in which -- the job though but -- like Ed wade made some mistakes here elaborate on that.

Well first ball mark but there are going to call there's no excuse in which logical. Everything after hands around -- actors yet in knocking down. But what I was saying was that Ed wade at general managers should not enough position. Should not have walked into. Players -- Whether other players -- a unit.

Bleached can't count you know encouraged that will confront it. You don't see seat O -- and you don't keep pat Gillick affiliate -- and I don't see any. General mattered most -- one and that kind of conduct in the club out. -- you talking that way to a player first team just not normal GM behavior. Anyway as he explained it had every reason if that and -- disagree with that one bit but at same time yet to pick your spots. And it got a little company does matter. And it go. -- you -- the general manager in -- under in the off. Basically accurately basic -- if you say you're suspended and that -- and there's no room for no reason. We're getting involved. In what anyway got involved again Chacon is the primary culprit here just because that would be yelled at first Saturday that it would have. Doesn't mean to put his hands around back up and down twice but again I would point to other Chia. On the other side cash Award. He direct analyst.

At every your peace they're -- and I was very surprised that Cecil Cooper who a lot of people in Boston and New England have a fondness for because he's a former reds -- So Cooper has no control that thing about how does that happen always thought of Cecil Cooper is kind of like a lay back in control cat.

idea and I like this guy great -- but it is difficult. You -- okay if they get fired if they become Hendry needed to not say that it would have imagined yet but. It does take any job frustrated if so it. As -- conclude at six -- and I if if you think people over and over -- black White Latin. Hot tempered pool it doesn't matter it can take its full it would happen. From my understanding is in in that Cecil Cooper it's so that in the stately mile but I we develop. Got a little ticked off an old school way it was but the -- on. At what point criticizing players publicly attacked that would let them off in the Sunday. When he gets it right next Sunday in east. Okay well written -- in debt and which -- logical particularly if you immaturity and be a little bit out of self. Your typical what is it to be taught it and keep it might also Mark Loretta. Another stroke basically that you -- the count on what happened way go to a lot going on in the clubhouse not much.

There's a lot there's a lot going all if you right now to you to a rapid that we up for you -- we're going.

I'm not going -- and it won't play.

Okay we heard all kinds activity going on but maybe it. But -- expert but the OK it's going to Pittsburgh -- Boston.

What he's not you know what he's not sending -- and writing about the crap that's happening in baseball guys on clubhouse guys and -- and charge account. He writes about baseball Ken Rosenthal of one of the great baseball stories this year on the field. Happened again last night -- we witnessed it is Red Sox fans. -- wins -- or fifty wins right now long term your view of this team is a true playoff contender in the American League.

True contender. And laughed -- was just the type to they would.

Why he's so personable hobbled around -- I don't see any way that he is going to be their older camber and October yet they physically just put it -- Benefits of all these years. And he's got one thing after another with him physically. Okay is their number one you'd hear about about in -- era right field. TV they've got to look at Bryant went days -- somebody like him. Because Percival is just.

Not going to get there I just don't. And that's my concern. The other concern obviously what happened in September even August and September where the race is really on. Players -- if -- in the they have an expert before. Right now it's still all due despite playing without money not salute but distasteful ride in a very young. So I thought question but my good we will have to admire the way they played so far. And I know everyone in -- respect it and just based on what you -- on the field every single that.

And you mentioned CC sabathia when you think he's going to be traded. Do you think he's going to be I'm assuming that you think he's going to trade when you think that's going to happen in what type of minor league package will he command from some team.

Income goes sooner than later Michael and I I would guess probably within the next two weeks. The package.

My guess would be one of two things it really depends an immediate preference they're being offered. They can't go 41 big prospect for instance.

Hughes from New York -- masters from Boston. And your take a little less on the other side of the prospect package -- that match and you know and accurately buckled. For nick takes three mid local guys or two would DC want to lose maybe I outside -- about that way but. There's enough competition about the team's prospects out there that they should be able to make a decent deal. It's not going to beat Bartolo Colon or if that's possible. You remember the Expos are going out of business or so they -- And they felt they had to do everything possible way with Nomar and I haven't -- general manager. That's life for a long -- Grady Sizemore and Brandon Phillips go to Cleveland. But this should be able to get a decent deal and you're not going to not going to take anything -- to preview drastic. What do you equivalent value of the cheap -- pretty drastic there yet if a just kept about it and lost a free agent.

But it's going to be between now on July 31 we start really ratchet up the trade deadline stuff can in terms of locally here in Boston the talk is bandit with the inconsistency the bullpen and it you've got to go get an arm what kind of bullpen arms are going to be available and it is and it. Always those guys who command a high price because nobody team is interesting and adding some veteran bullpen arm is they get towards the playoff race.

Well the price will be relatively high and certainly pressure Gagne -- last year. And that's going to -- former -- such judgment this. They're not going to go to not overpay for reliever knowing that open performance is bottle. Knowing what -- target. I just had a list of lefties and I compiled last night. -- occasions that the top of pec muscle marte had -- Red -- like out like will be wreck behind him. And that is talking about Ron Mahay Kansas City George Sherrill perhaps in the Orioles any guys like. Not a bad group actually right now and from the right side they'll be comparable -- don't think -- Red -- have to -- left. So they're able to do something but. The price might be I and -- and -- in the they would like good relation to -- you know after Garnett got it how they react.

And -- you know this is the question always asked me toward the end -- going to be this weekend when he got going on. Mean Yankee Stadium. Yankee Stadium Red Sox Red Sox Yankees -- this -- it's going to be there there there -- some people here. Who believe that the rays I don't have a better record than the Yankees -- folks who believe the rays are better long term in the yankees' long term meaning the 2008 season. Are you one of the other raise up a better team than the New York Yankees.

Question I would say yes. Because the Yankees pitching problems are still rather -- If you look at irritation you got had a job that the problem there. And they got Big East spelled out there and currently sitting on -- problem there. Yeah obviously it is starting pitcher I would expect it would be out in the next even though Brian Cashman has been extremely protective of their prospects. The other issues well any what Joe Girardi -- good job keeping these guys going and getting the most out of what he had. I know already which got which it. And it it remains to be seen whether Fort Worth and Barrett. Eduardo Ramirez and whoever else they put out there is going to be adequate so when you look at the race staffed -- the -- I figured he managed to raise up I why -- but certainly by some margin. Yeah he's got excellent golf sinker out great but everything. The racial -- Soviet there while still for the Yankees is not terribly announced an overall -- huge. Fact that the Yankees are older and helped or injuries as we thought I'd like --

They're going to allow well. Have fun in New York this weekend watching the Red Sox and Yankees we'll talk to next week have good fourth of July --

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