Fri, 25 Apr 2008|
NFL Draft analyst Rob Rang of nfldraftscout.com joins D&C to talk about his thoughts on the 2008 NFL Draft
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For the final hour to this capital report Friday Bob Howry and John -- Jerry taken a long weekend I don't know if you guys have heard. In the draft tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow and uploaded this they simply beat up on you. -- is on the phone lines as a as an expert who has forgotten more about all of this that we know is the senior analyst for -- draft scout dot com rob rang is awful good morning rob how are you. Sorry for that that technical without the helmet just was that we're going to -- on I -- where to begin -- my sense is that almost every mock draft I had read. As the sexy six we elect to call them pretty much in place before the patriots ticket number seven that would be Jake long -- most people got that have that right today don't you have Glenn Dorsey Matt Ryan Darren McFadden Chris long and Vernon Gholston. You and -- group don't believe the sexy six will be intact and the patriots picked at number seven Matt Ryan be the odd man out correct.
Correct that it would I really think the when you look at Matt Wright talked about a player is a very good quarterback but -- great quarterback -- it don't get me wrong and I am higher on pat Ryan then multiply it really believe -- you'd had shall live by the at the quarterback in this strap them. And the fact that he would -- we'll see what the -- psychologist absolutely. Absolutely you are technically his ability but I only have a quarterback is the leader. But the same time I think that when you look at this year -- they want our. About how lacking in the league talent I disagree completely with the lack you know lead. Skill position talent these opposite would be that the wideman that are in that we late development popped the first round. Or legitimate global health prospects deserve to -- at that point.
I'm wondering in your estimation what player in the separate from that what team holds the key to how most of this balls the first ten or twelve the next round.
indicated -- because didn't expect -- on the clock obviously but. Well also say that because there's so much trade speculation going on right now it -- swept the accord might sources say that saint louis' is leaning actually towards Chris long. Well I think Glenn Dorsey is just about every other media outlet is reporting that the same time St. Louis Rams looking trait to our goal in this city to two new England's world everybody. In the possibility of other and looking to move up Portland -- and look to move up for Chris long. Or even a Vernon Gholston and or or even that here McFadden and every team right now is either trading up for trading down no one can. Satisfied with where they're at right now.
I took the patriots indeed do that and and my senses I think they're going to go the other way -- just play along near for a second. Let's say the patriots are on the clock can somehow get in the spot number two all the sexy six or down five Nelson's Jake long is gone and they covet to get up to two.
You know that that's the big talk to me it's interesting to see whether talked about I have -- they would come down either is the one of those after. What did Chris long purple and gold to you know that the idea of being that -- certainly Chris long is is the more instinctive open of the two. But the same -- called -- at -- up sides to every coach.
If I read these mock drafts properly it's it it really is up to the rams if they end up taking Glenn Dorsey second. That's sort of changes all the other dominoes were Matt Ryan might go third to Atlanta is that right.
Absolutely and and and that that -- is -- certainly no Atlanta -- is Atlanta Falcons say they believe believe -- should be the number one pick in -- draft and they were taking that he. You can pick either he or Jake long over that -- but if all the while the board obviously Jake long while the other is there's been a lot of talk on top -- you take the consideration of that besides how good Carolina is -- I think that's the duty. But he's faced the franchise I really think they looked -- and end up staying put. Taking Chris long a couple of weeks ago obviously -- Glenn Dorsey Atlanta. And the the fact is that the depth at quarterback this year would -- up to use one of the lead but the well pick or perhaps accurate but without the -- Move into the late first round -- the quarterback but the part of our board -- an agreement Joe Flacco at a position greater value.
And -- your mock draft you have the patriots taken Keith rivers. How much do they like Keith rivers and therefore how likely are they to keep that pick if that's where they're they're --
I believe they like -- forever probably at their local them and I think you're going to see if the board does shake out the way I anticipate that -- a little bit. Then I think you're AFC team watchable and trying to -- So it was Baltimore Ravens number eight spot are very much and well now ramblings of the should be -- is as the the Carolina Panthers -- are. The -- the color is it as the Chicago and Matt Ryan or Chicago Bears love that as well there's all kinds speculation which into the move up. I would think that also and then you're going to see New England -- seven cherry position. An absolute great out. Most likely look in for a player like it's rivers or might chink in the quarterback I think well.
If the patriots indeed -- at seven and they have available to them both Keith rivers and Sedrick Ellis. How the conversation go between field in double check when they evaluate whether Keith rivers are Sedrick Ellis is is their choice.
They have been if they come down there at the which players in the it would give us the most immediate impact bank float but certainly the during -- in using all of their in. In every one of their story you sort of whining coming via the first or have you and that that follows an obvious indication of that but the patriots believe in building -- Because the wind mr. you know you -- the -- in the draft. -- that make sense because I really believe that adults what the more underrated players in the trap of argued that it should be a top five prospect adequate also that he. Quite possibly will be a top five -- that because we get we when you look at players in the strapped. As adults because I've gotten there in the top 612 of them. Rather than that part because the -- because -- is so weak because. If you look at physical style that was used dominant player legally but he would the senior bowl with almost there as well proved it has worked out if you'd probably have a profit that would I really believe at the patriots do that you win -- in the twenty.
They also believe in value -- if they trade out of there which a lot of people think they will a day where in the first and second round numerically and who name wise they get value at linebacker and quarterback who they get where I guess is -- a basket.
Well certainly if -- trade Elvis and if you spotlight or of northern -- go straight from from the number ten spot to number seven because they want aren't as such itself. If you would be available without point number -- it's very restore the chance to be on the board and you could make sense but also -- Derrick Harvey play defensive -- while quarterback has the ability of the eventually transition that three or what linebacker position as New England likes -- so. They'll pick since that battle with there -- trade got a little bit lower they into the thirteen range is Carolina's that they want to make light from outline. That they need to CL a might chink in the quarterbacks such as the south Florida but they'll also virtually worked out.
My question before is how low can the patriots go. If they're interested in a cornerback because the cautionary tale for patriots fans is back in 1997 -- draft was considered very deep for cornerbacks in the end up with the sixth one of the sixth best one in the first round that was Chris Canty. Didn't really work out that well with the some wonder now with the whole bunch of names being floated out there among defensive backs and it's hard to separate. Talent levels from one through five or six. If the patriots ended up with the fifth or sixth best quarterback in this draft would they do well for themselves and where could they get that.
They thought they would do well for the old because there is but. Such great quarterback depth this year -- you're your point well made with a -- and story but this -- up with in this year's draft there it lack that'll lead number one quarterback who lost -- continues and so last couple weeks the who's number one quarterback in the strap that the most the answer that I got. Most would Leo does that help them that this thing I'm also big gay couples on the -- like I a couple of Mike -- a couple of the speed to lead. They're beat up looked in doubt they're actually they're they're like -- arsenal purging effect it will also that are about 45 different players. New England certainly don't expect -- the -- would make one big trade in involved with the ones. You know late twenties because but the the thing happening in Salt Lake effect anybody unless it was that something like that south cal was in the -- it's both the between two with 28 but. The paper it is the patriots did move down that fought the mayor is adept at quarterback -- if they're able pick up Brandon flowers during its speed to lead which. You know he's the player I actually don't leave -- fitness -- are the patriots or because this is also the sense that it gave it quarterback someone make it ahead of them. And then therefore allowed that the player a walk out where -- at but it was certainly better characters default picked reflections -- arbitrage down.
We're -- rob rang the senior analyst from NFL draft scout dot com and a watery -- to the subject on the quarterbacks and offensive -- does does Mckelvin out of Troy. Have added value to the olympics it's been -- any other team because of his versatility with kick and punt returns.
Absolutely he is is that the most I'm but it isn't it the most dynamic return man in the should draft you know. -- DeShawn Jack in evolve attentions Evans they're republics which is tickets on the -- beat her. But in reality -- Lynn hit seven returns throughout his career wallet Troy shall that I will be that it is. Still -- the -- well I absolutely believe it yet no one quarterback in the strapped in the great -- it is because -- return.
Turning to us some of the opposition here in the in the -- division. I'm guessing that John beck is happy but the dolphins shows Jake long and not Matt Ryan will will John beck be happy. When the dolphins are done picking at 32.
I don't believe don't know I'd addict you're -- in Miami also. Probably be forced to trade up a little bit. If they want pick horrible yeah quarterback I really believe Miami Dolphins could end up some out so well it would Chad Henne and I think they're going to do that the most likely have to pack some of those that -- the -- And in the way of -- of the Miami Dolphins camp because that you picked necessary but positioned himself to get --
Of all the -- touted big name people you've seen appear in the first round in these mock drafts. Who's the one that scares the heck idea if you -- general manager.
Very Gholston and and the reason it is certainly at the athletic ability the war almost pockets are in the you know potentially there is parker number one overall and two called up at the same time when you watch him. He's a player that is a it would get buyout is natural athletic ability throughout the entire career. And he certainly -- walked in the AFL and be among the most. -- like -- event or linebackers and record in the league as well but the same time this is a player who because you realize that that flexibility you let it. Technique all by the way level that he does not easy and very well. It's engage from blocks is not locate the ball very well it's -- you've been a struggle little -- certainly has the ability to come off the agent generator abstract but the same time. You may be in -- two with three sacks. Over half and then not even another play for half an -- I inconsistency concerned in because the sort of -- absolutely dominant -- well.
It rubbed us the name of somebody who we might of heard of it certainly isn't in the top 66 -- two or three years from now. Every other table say and we had no white we saw that coming this guy is a great contributor to his team.
You know our I would argue that -- mail that -- back for tendencies of players really movement up the Borg and for good reason media as he has figured that the versatility to play both inside and outside it is high level of that he's the he's the most athletic linebacker he's he's -- from the US is more athletic linebackers he has the instincts the only concern within -- you can use him very well but when you played outside linebacker in the past it. You've been using covered so much he had been asked the facilities as well I think that the courts will be an accurate. You're at either drug me up where typical -- it. The overall. These are wanted but all the way down to the New York Giants for the in the first round -- the player would a couple of years not because really can't be at the public performer in the NFL.
And and who is this year's Brady Quinn waiting by the phone a lot longer than he thought it captive.
You know it's going to be interesting though there's a lot parked out there that Borchard spent all of opened come aboard a little there's -- they -- but in the mean there are that the number one on number two running back in the strap match I believe that Arabic that -- ago certainly in the top six they stop the Stewart the pride the people with just how -- he -- he will be up the borders as the -- the better all the where there aren't very I don't believe should be top fifteen prop that I'm here in the more like typical in the eighteen to twenty.
You can check out rob rang on -- draft scout dot com you can also -- is a special to CBS sports dot com as well good stuff probably appreciate the information in will be paid attention tomorrow thanks for the time. Thank you rob -- with Dennis and Callahan
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