Curt Schilling

Curt Schilling joins us on the -- lines from Cleveland that morning mister Schilling. -- at at at -- they're argued I'm surprised you're laughing about it I didn't I didn't characterize you as being a laughing boy this morning we do that's good knows we just checked the roster number 38 is available in new York's inaugurated you'd go about next year if I'd.

Woke up about 48 seconds ago. They've got what it -- hot shots yeah not motivated here would doctor ordered that relate --

Well the doctor Morgan made two -- appearances on the last two days -- also yesterday in Philadelphia today with us. A socially he characterized you -- as so angry angry enough at the Sox. To get surgery and pitched for the Yankees next season. In his opinion he he said actually talked about it -- sure -- and yeah. I follow up church yeah the last like follow up though the very last one. Well occurred near the story -- Pietrus as you said.

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The question -- the essentially he'd be implemented for what you said in his opinion and that at the -- his follow up here. If you have a few drop the named the New York Yankees has Curt Schilling said anything to use specifically about pitching for the New York Yankees or seen talking about. Pitching in general once he is surgically repaired but not specifically mentioning the Yankees.

All of the above. He called me when he is Andrea bottom months ago as having record came and said listen I would pitch again next year. And it is that that that possibility of is that New York caption what he was you know he would consider it and he was going to do it. He didn't do any of that I think it was in part of anger but once again islanders -- for that.

Now before you match or you can you can take the -- set and oxycontin defense that you're in -- at the point -- and added know what you're saying.

You know -- But those who first were the popular way ahead of the word that is I think you know being the language with the rigorous there's going to be missed remember I. While actually I talked about probably within the last week he told me he's public eye infirmary that. I'm not really sure we got to some of the conclusion he got through but I think you guys know me well enough -- noted that. Need wearing pinstripes regardless of what point that he's in the right there with a very is not an option I I can't remember. -- how or or or think back to having their conversation specifically for you know. It's not announce it never has been an option and I'm not really sure where. He's startled from a -- airport because. You know from a rehab standpoint I think I'm probably as surprised as anyone has an oh incredibly well -- around. Really yeah I mean come up to -- in the I guess kept understand the shoulder and and social program excited -- There were whereas we started it through three rounds were were up to seven with all the program -- would be pretty big deal. Are stronger than than than I've -- There are more weight than ever used at any point in my group citizen recently about. Strength wise I've gotten you know incredible gains but at the -- aren't already -- A lot of straight game. And you don't have the biggest surprise me. At this point would be probably. The fact that I don't have any pain at all would choose is that cute straight -- I I certainly expected it to. And I think a couple of us at the initial time when when the decision was made good on the -- expected to go down eight. That would be me feel good for a couple weeks and eventually at some point in wood returns and -- and I'm still apprehensive and nervous about making the transition from where we artists throwing and getting on the field in Europe this next -- step that. I had no reason I think that says that won't go well they were right --

So so based on only the information you have available the last two months of rehab up to and including today April 15. Does the possibility exists at the Red Sox conservative approach that you sort of rejected at the beginning might have been the right one.

Well absolutely immediately out inlets and the one thing that I think we all can agree on -- three anyway. I don't have a problem coming on saying that in orbit about parameters and beat the bears -- I absolutely. Based on where rat now think that that. You know there's there's a very good chance that I -- it's in. And be better than -- watts. This year but you know again there's still another -- that the that in. You know I can tell you. As far as. You know being angry your organization Urbina or anybody in particular -- we have a a residual you know while back right in our well I was not happy with the direction -- because. I felt that based on the information everybody had a hand at that it is what people -- Technology pains and in you know it was for whatever reasons that that mean that I said it before also -- watered them -- it is this is we want to direction. And as of today you know I I think it that the you know everybody's been proven right that the I didn't agree with Julio.

So you're not angry.

Now like I got home dog I would support them being part for me right now. Is that I'm problem with this baseball team and and Watson these guys on the field and do what they do when in the middle of what I mean it's frustrating. That's been the hardest part of the rehab for me is is not being able to be you know really literally feel that they're real deal. But you know and -- we've had discussed it and political football standpoint. You know I can tell you. My feelings about this -- case -- point where -- I've gone back to the open and stuck with them a -- in the incentive or Mike on from the standpoint of you know if something would happen in realistically. You know. I rehab all the aren't in back and played at. And it didn't work out like -- pitch I could sit back on the DL and collectively dollars were going up on the way I have a hard time rationalize -- and as as time went along and there was my feeling that you know if anybody that doubted. Might sincerity and might -- going to be back in. Facing went on with with you get to the Oilers are basically with those of the and I I think that we probably gusts you know. Intensity is yet to -- it's based piece of my -- that'll. The weight clause is because you know went back they're going to have not going to -- the in the antennas that are at the -- my contract and so that I think it's three million dollar with the importance that is part of what are thirty innings.

To gene -- get wind of this yet.

I don't know I decided that that -- obviously I think I can say with. Pretty much a lot of certainty that against the advice in which is of MLB PA and my attorney I did this but but you know. That's not really relevant piece of the.

If -- upside as you can go to Kentucky fried chicken and they gotta entertain the type of Papa at.

No I I just felt like -- it it was really. Do both kind of dirty I guess is the word I don't know. To be able to sit back and collect another familiar atop the money they've already guaranteed me in -- this year and and or or not put the effort to get in on the field and and be committed to reality it is thought that was just the way it needed to make them understand about that won't go there a -- or.

I know you're you're sick of this question is and you don't give -- an answer but any sense of when he might be able to pitch.

Well I don't get closer you know everything in the last or six weeks on that -- them. -- significantly stronger than I was point during the real process and then. Calm amid the point where I think past the question I'm I'm down to who treatment today. But who the people ball would -- which at present thrown in you know if the answer and getting used that's factory but you know if it will --

You look at the pitchers you're giving notes about the progress that about your encouragement about the fact that you believe the Red Sox conservative approach was correctional and so forth. Seems to fly in the face of what doctor Morgan said yesterday and certainly to us and I'm wondering about asking the cycle analyze you've -- your -- on him from a distance but but do you think in this case a -- eagle and we all know all the great ones have just that. Like into his characterization of where you are what's happened and and how you feel about things.

We there's a couple things remember I mean first thought you know he's he's got a distant and again Craig as a friend of very close friend always will be but. -- in -- probably three or four times since since January. So I'm not sure that he's he's been kept abreast of the back in. You know the conversation that I'm not really sure what our excuse for doing it with regard to public comment that he made that the Yankee pieces there's some there's some misinformation going on and you know I I. I can remember us having a conversation. And laughing about you know coming back pitching next here but it was more the turn of the it a minute is there in the courts and carpet where. I said. You know I I. If I didn't want Mike Rivera on the way to the lots here on the purple I mean and we want to -- and and everything that went along with that but that promote the book reports that when I was disappointed. In Albert -- for me you know I certainly. --

So is that the answer to the question that I was going to pose with all you've accomplished in all you've earned why would you want to -- either have the surgery or do the three haven't been back and -- get a another year.

Well you know I think that there's there's there's some of that and I've heard of from a lot of different people you know Nomar walked the way you've done. And I don't know what it I certainly don't don't want to come back and have people watch it it's normal you know for the well last year -- this or watch. And I -- it you know I think Elmo. Well into -- early part of that we have and then in the early parts as we -- if if that's going to be the case and then at that went out of the way in my options. In the plate but -- they're not going to come back it up on the mound. To hang on to the game that makes sense. I don't think I don't I don't believe. That the guy who's been it's been the last year so it is the guy who like I -- end -- being that -- can come about that I mean I -- you know no matter what happens I have that is all the doctors involved the -- very clearly stated I have absolutely no matter what. Who live out we'll put normal life big lead normal life so. You know if if it works out that I I can come back it's sincere that'll -- more likely have a certain right of the season and if by pitch and everything worked out in the those swimming well then. You know I would imagine that there won't feel water to see me get back on the field. Something else happened I don't know if certainly if while that is certainly would be coming back it's that you'd be back as well.

It is just you're inducted this -- Morgan have the same goal in mind as the team doctor for the Red Sox. For you.

You know what I hit it hard because. I know that there was a lot of personal issues outside of myself involved in this you know basically got two people. More than two people pop the question who know what they're doing who are or you know experts at what they do in. They disagree if when when people like that this egregiously you know when the when they disagree. Sometimes things get said and he'd been in situations arise that that the people that the that the I know that there was some comment that during that the whole thing that doctor Morgan felt were were calling him now in in you know what he is character and his his ability and I I think that the that the and then in the offensive I can see where that that it happened that. You'd like to hope that everybody has in the system mind they by eight I've. At my eyes open at LSU 45 months to -- But things aren't always the way you want them to be -- hope they'll be people -- always you know. Hercules -- of more interest in art -- a bit and it and it made me to think that they would. You know this is that billion dollar you know this is that that is all about winning sometimes. Your best interest in your your motivation aren't in the best interest but we'll open it.

from what you've been able to accomplish from a rehab standpoint by staying with the team and staying with a shoulder specialist who -- you were helping you is that counterbalanced by the negative of having it in your face that you're on the road you're in the dugout -- in the clubhouse but you can't play I guess my question is would it be easier on you psychologically if you work with a team.

Though though you know the hard part is one of the -- but -- not being with the in his there's. There's a -- in the field to to the all -- and in there's there's a daily routine. That when you get away from the ballpark -- the there's an accident that comes with that very hard to get back yeah. The end as it being in my face I don't vote that that I don't think that the negative I think it -- I look I still believe that -- then you know what eight weeks -- so that that I've been pretty much every day with -- in and doing the rehab you know minimum of in about two hours the -- today. Because that is there really allows -- to go in my head down in this day you know get it done today and and you get out there today. So from an effort that what I think it's helped from a determination they have wanted to help -- motivate them that they felt so you know. Unfortunately I think there's took Parcells righted itself whatsoever he would be those people family is paying about doing this thing. You know it is and that battle but don't be probably the best and -- wonderful.

Are you taking leadership role at all on the in the club posts in the dugout or you this you invisible.

No I'm I'm I'm both invisible -- there -- so much further than everybody else. In a -- winding up as people might disturb the arriving but -- their art thing I walked -- see every all of it in and you know I I've got a little notebook is I don't think there's a series of -- so but -- so. That -- so and then. All have different points I'm -- they world and it. -- somebody about something that I the year that Tom Lester Buchholz but you know this is this -- as it took that with his responsibility. -- to move into that role and I think he's starting to that we started the last year but when he you know when he took over the stuff than. It's it's good to see if it ever happen and he's got personality that to be that guy.

Well what will you say to Leicester after last night.

It is physical that a lot of little things in the communities specific but. Don't want to think you'll hold on to lose it'll burn you don't really realize is when you go -- Anytime you can have less than your best game in the pocono win. It's sort out and you moved an excellent and you try and make the next -- a little bit better you -- work don't think so from a game like that you -- There has issues are are almost always the same and they revolve around and then in the right so and been able to -- Played -- they got to continue to refine it he that the fact that when you and you continue to. They have the same problem you have to build some sort of the road -- season at times he's he's he's that guy everybody is the only consistent that's got to that guy that that everybody we can be. They have but they -- that's not longer and more consistent.

You know I was thinking that that's the life of a pitcher. You can't tell me that Jake Westbrook didn't feel better when he went to bed last night than Jon Lester. Even though Westbrook. His team -- closet and and and lest his team won I mean it's as if that individual nature of old of pitching in in and the sport in general. That that Westbrook you know he can't twenty supposed to feel bad about.

Yes well it was -- It dependable at first says I -- that in the he's a fantastic that I I would policy that used the oval where a couple of reasons. -- as a starter you always you'll we what do you like goes that way is that if you had been in the game for another inning you could've you could've but the ball and and stretch it out and any longer the other -- through a tough situation right now Perot he. Is -- he's it is very different guy that I saw last year -- he's on board retreated almost an hour and last stride I. Remember right the sporting an 8788 guys and it was sort of -- off the -- beat up that they use he is in the double bogeys -- But I would argue that that I think you might. Of an issue because I think it is almost flat and it didn't have quite well and it was in the middle played a lot so by. Johnny gonna be upset because I mean it's a perfect day in is that is that the mentality got to work weight from it but. They're both young pitchers so they both. Still -- I would are they probably do a victim mentality if you had two veteran -- district because it's sort of -- have been happy because sort of of them would have been that.

Manning in his own in a little ways said it best he said that that you get from Ralph was a fastball only slow yeah you know at at at.

Yeah and that's I think everything's going to motivate you right now bit but. Yet -- they've got some big -- just throw the crap on all the little into the back in the until struggled.

As a starter I mean you know Jerry sort of touched on the -- when when you know you're the starter in the game and you know the back and you got some elect Papelbon. That's a whole different feeling than being starve the Cleveland Indians -- and gather it's injured and not -- how the ball that your back yet.

You have no idea and ended the trickle down it affects everybody Aviv. It -- it and again you certainly don't want to you to offend anybody but that it it. When your ball and make the other team managed games differently in the you know we've stuck it to me to put some ever really saw was in the in the eighties and nineties with you would -- they -- thwarted eighteen. That he had Wetteland Rivera Wetteland and games it's different than the reds at the net he was it was a six or seven inning game and you know our bullpen is started to have around double that Mike had a phenomenal weapon and I would. Tell you that is that is -- three years a lot he had. You know he's so ball might -- Florida Brandon Webb -- it you know he he he jumped back in the -- though he was upset after the other night is great the event that he beat you think about the way our fault -- they -- if you if you know Manny if himself on the right track which he thought it would. He got some power arms in front of Papelbon Okajima. -- But I heard some humor in that era of the league if that is bigger -- while you know they have figured I could he's really good and you know we've got two -- three guys that it has to be closer for us and let it -- work -- then that's huge on likely not be available you know. You'd like to think it over episode and it is absolutely it's a different fields -- that.

A character of the Coco or Jacoby platoon thing worked effectively for boast both guys for any length -- time.

I would. I would defer to the guy who says it's is that what everything -- you guys and -- of that but the fact of the matter is he goes going to make it work. He always has. And to doubt him at this point I think it just what was he. He knows his players better than -- he goes his players better than anybody else and they will make it work pogo once the play people who want one -- you'll find a way to make a bit. And you know if we have learned anything over the last couple years you'd you'd never have a surplus of anything yet if -- it you know it's a huge lead at that he's the realist and we lost perennial gold glove -- there's going to be people baseman. And -- on KP yeah I mean that's why. Every year the Red Sox the gate -- the teams that can spend the money and field events out with every eight big league players. Have a huge advantage in and went on inside that and that this would be. Her 300 hitter you know -- gave you move you over to -- places that the bases anybody but I like Michael you know that depth that is not something you're going to have -- are you the white got.

If we we think case is going to sit down today Lowry is going to go in his debut at third base to you know. Anything more than we do about -- right.

African Stanford you know blah blah these bridges. I -- ago worn out the other night for -- for forgetting to bring the water on the bus so you start to get a little rookie of the -- for it and there. They've got like three days off it. It you know what he's he's I got to see him during my side that lesser in in and -- but it is and a you know what he's he's a lot like you know the other guys to come out of this that was baseball programs -- You know I didn't know a lot of bottom placed on play in the eighties you know insult well and I think he's somebody who we -- the visibility and feel like you belong in the big league field that -- first big you. -- hurdle for young Wheeler.

Are we wrap up this I would think that after no fewer than five opening day introductions and ceremonies that would be Tokyo Los Angeles Oakland throttled Boston. The last thing you need as yet another one but I guess in the see you at one on Saturday may third.

That's correct now yeah the we are doing the opening ceremonies for the field in that -- and is that it is very very big deal they. Renovated don't feel that the local high school for the team they practice as if it last week it was unbelievable -- that we're going to be ceremony.

And it's safe to say you will not be throwing out the first pitch appropriate -- but no big left and yeah lefty lefty it would give up candidate but -- all right thanks for cleared all the questions up we've had a over four hours you -- the ball Kurt thanks thanks Curt Schilling with Dennis and Callahan