Fri, 14 Dec 2007|
Peter joined Dale and Michael to talk about the pats-jets game, Mario Williams, Bobby Petrino and the Coach of the Year race.
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Each and every Friday at this time we talked with Peter King brought to you by 1800 mattress. The most comfortable mattresses on earth are just a phone call away at 1800 mattress -- called like kick off for delivery by the post game show. I dialed 1800 MA TT RES. About the last S for savings on line it mattress dot com Peter King joins us right now I Peter. -- dale Mike arias very -- Our guys that are doing great plains happened to be sometimes a little slow this time a year we've not.
I got to say about this thing take it yes I have had an incredible day idea. HBO -- need to Tennessee Memphis but actually a hundred miles away from Memphis. To catch up with George Martin's now George Martin's PX giant plate fourteen years he was -- Super Bowl team. In 86 mercker -- little wait for safety -- game it was real important and he's so he's been sort of stable world guy. And so we decided that. To raise money for the first responder title of 9/11 -- the -- Yeah right you know he had met guys that cops and firemen who -- having increasing health problems that working. Covered by air medical care readers -- he was going to walk from the George Washington Bridge to the golden gate bridge. -- actually met so eager walks 33 -- my and so. Yes -- I'm Adam in real real backwoods town intensity. And we walked eighteen miles Mike. He would hurry HBO and just that it echo at times particular discussion really sort of an inspirational thing to beat -- to it was a lot of fun.
How long did it take you to walk eighteen --
Well unfortunately we had a bunch it has some TV delays during the day because we might in the cameras are involved. You can't just walk. But there was also a delay that there were just spontaneous celebration for chipper. In it in that in. An eight to twelve school the only school in this county Tennessee in bruised and Tennessee and they just couldn't get enough on their hang. On his every word he literally just you know he's walked along -- probably wouldn't do it and they assemble every kid in the school in the GM and George went in the air and he had this incredible. At this rapt audience of -- talking about any talent on heroes aren't. How they have to look at firefighters and police officers and teachers are there here is not as athletes and just really. An emotional one day but basically we walked -- out. I don't know maybe 30 in the morning till it got dark and you know. Up for lunch and just this is just a fun day it was a good time.
Let's turn our attention back to -- of the mundane business of NFL football based on what happened this past week. Do you think the patriots will lose a game in the regular season.
While you know it it doesn't look like it spot all along it would. Com and now I don't think they will. I think obviously the only chance is what's going to happen at the meadowlands -- that last Saturday night because none of us really know. How many guys the giants are going to keep out if they don't have any. Into place for the one thing I think about that giant team right now though is that. They're not clicking at all offensively -- they -- at a different running back every week practically zero there'll be hurt. I mean they really really missed Tiki Barber no matter what anybody says. And you know and they this thing that you don't know is. What's Tom Coughlin going to do rule on Portugal -- is ankle is that is -- like it has been all year and that you want to play your best and go out win but. Chances are I mean if I had to get straight now my guess is that the giants will be primetime game on wild card weekend. You know that Saturday night game so. It's not like the giants are going to get any extra -- you know and get an extra day to prepare for it is getting this wild card games so. My guess is that Coughlin will probably be shortly attempted. Arrest is borderline guys like in. Antonio pierce and and Portugal -- tour probably to a it is top six or seven most important players in the game. And not so that play a part in game but you know I'm probably like everybody else right now I think they've -- patriots are going to succeed now.
Peter the news came out this week that the jets had a camera at Gillette stadium last year Eric Mangini and the jets say they had permission the patriots don't say anything what's the real story.
I think the real story is that this is something that had been floating around since early this season. And I don't think the jets had prevention. And I believe that the let the scooter it was straight start their roof and I think Michael. If if we are if we are to believe. What we also our believe about this story that the patriots strength. That the chip should have pain. -- this defeat at the old boys network which is you know the first week of the season which is. Help keep with the camera to get off the sideline and don't come back I mean it didn't eat it that is all what we're to believe then it's clear that. The patriots think that okay we are your I do want to. And we didn't turn event you caught -- I'd do that in -- demand. And that's why I mean. You know I think everybody looks at -- Dodgers giant threats are Yankees so whatever it the great. Kind of rivalries in sports historic state. They -- you don't summit hatred that that goes on but. I mean this this jets patriots thing and it just so many things get get ratcheted up in this thing that. My feeling is that they're going to be some ma supporting some feelings on Sunday.
You know we were just talking a guy with his jumping on me for kind of defending in a way of those steroid era in my defense was this is what the error is in an a lot of players are products of that era. But it and maybe it's a looser association and wondering. If we heard about the jets their camera we obviously know about the patriots and a camera. Is this a -- subculture in the NFL that no one really talks about this camera work.
I think it is Michael but I think it is probably. Less prevalent and particularly now. This -- and now I thought I angel looked routines that commonly used the camera and I know at least one of them used it during the preceding game proper sparks this year. Patten it's about two months ago I made a couple of calls and check done. This particular scout who I knew it done it and treat season this year. And then an -- I asked the couple broke right whose job it is to scout teams -- on days. And I bet you know -- easy in this P. With a little video camera in the -- sparks you know little help -- basic now I haven't seen it here so I have to believe that. Punishment has tried every news. But little subculture and I not naive enough that saint -- It happened. But I think the penalty but it Roger Goodell that goes about Bill Belichick was enough to scare anybody off not so much the money. But the draft choice and it also one other -- Michael had a conversation JP Johnson this week and we were talking about. You know this this -- Bobby Petrino bottom. You know this irresponsible ten year old eats drinks that are it's okay like Italy -- in the middle of this season English is that that the dumbest most irresponsible. To -- shameless thing I've ever seen a coach to -- one of those things where he got around that the Bill Belichick. And so he -- at -- I've done -- several times in my career I know it's commonly done her around the lead he believes it is still being done but he. -- quite yet -- any. Any potential who is -- And Sunday and he just said this is one of those things that. It just is -- Very profitable -- right. Ever really get very much help from that and and that's one of the reasons why I think I'm sure if you ask Bill Belichick right now how much -- did he get for a you know all scale of one to ten each I think at least say a lot less than one. I think you know because I just don't think you're going to get all that much help for this as just another example coaches and not just bill. Who think that. I'm going to look under every rock to trade you don't try to find ways to help us win.
Let's set aside Katrina for a second but just as a general rule why this migration of coaches where the interest of coaches. For leaving the NFL and going back to the college game.
I think I think -- three reasons number one white guys come look at it -- Jimmy. Johnson told -- it's this great little story about when butch Davis called them. January of 2001 when he hit the browns are chasing meter offered me two billion dollars to come to coach them. And there are certain there's so part down trying to win and Aaron and that you're talking about everything and Jimmy simplest and -- realize one. You can state Miami and beat. The beaten me on campus and winning or nine games every year and content. And for national championship have a good social if you don't network down every rifle like get good plays solid stuff or. You can go to the F -- twice as much money and you be back in college football 34 years sure now which statistics. The browns up space for years went to 24 games. Quite literally earns 24 million dollars million hours away and so. In other words what you say -- is what is what a lot of college coaches feel there's the lower of the NFL's first alternate challenge right. The challenge is not as big as you're going to get paid. -- Bobby Petrino it it is. It is -- high in college football -- about a million hours and who knows coaching clinic and all that other crap. How much money you can make me. -- If you good but he bill powers are coming back pro football left an eight -- nine. -- year aren't convinced. You're really -- in -- And really -- and pro football you're going to make it right now at least four F five million dollars which is a lot of these college guys have come to the NFL are. And so he thought they think first -- all. Second thing you know. I really believe that we wanted to recently so readily go back. It is because they keep it there is safety net college football and they're going to BB -- they're not going to be question like that Eric pro football. And you can run and BA you know you can be an autocratic. So and so and everybody just have to conform to what she walked in -- NFL DeAngelo Hall Alge Crumpler they're just going to then you're witches because your head coach of the team that doesn't work that way it. NFL and a final thing. I believe that that makes college football also trek is is just can't believe that. -- hell if he'd go to the NFL tight it is on HBO this week is seven example the guys in the last fifteen years to go on -- college to pro back to college. And every one of them have a losing record in the NFL. It's not much on to -- Penny you guys know that they open college football and we're in the majority of their deep stuff how much of it majority is -- But they know they're going to be three intense.
You know Peter I agree with you Bobby Petrino he bounced and it it was a pretty cowardly move it and that happened this week we all saw that but there had to be something before that a moment when he lost the team. What was that moment it -- have you gotten a sense of what we -- there.
I think it was a continuous moment where. He never felt it that is the you never felt any important.
In communicating with the PL has at. Nobody who's very close to the situation told me. He's the worst communicate here in NFL history and deal when you change your starting quarterback. Today at a press conference and don't even acknowledged -- quarterbacks involved and don't even -- that that afternoon at practice he's going to be taking. Eating fewer snaps. What were kept Eric and it it's just. I think easier to edit -- thing Eric that last year left feet and I missed it on the sidelines at the record Louisville game and New Brunswick. And you know the biggest. At Louisville undefeated and ask stand on the Louisville sideline and I walked. Bryan brown -- quarterback come to the sideline in both his brother Jeff what was the quarterback coach Petrino won't come over. And sure ream him oh in between series about choices he made whatever and I guess -- wow this guy is he's really you know what it's -- area all that stuff. And I found out that in best -- He's EPL first. Ask what should beleaguered guy and I just don't think networks in the NFL I don't think are -- specific moment although white didn't think. A -- the go to cut Grady Jackson even Jackson was playing pretty well every cut Brady that that that really kicked off the players on this -- I mean. Q actually picked off the player on this stadium eight electorate this year that and that was as one -- that -- Camel's back.
I'm wondering why the University of Michigan would even be interest in in cam Cameron. And I'm wondering -- the Miami Dolphins and I was gonna say if on the dolphins -- offered a drive in north.
I don't think that that story at any lake whatsoever patriot if it if -- that day he. That -- seat at that reminds me Blanton when the dolphins last year eager you'd Mike Hsu. He'd go after a fire Alabama at bat after ridiculous remember as far as I'm concerned but operate here -- situation in Miami. I think they don't -- for fourteen years. He's never fired any of the tribe coaches who have left is employed. They've all read our bigger laughed -- your uncle issue including Dave Wannstedt. And so that's one of the reasons why right now I think that. Trio catering to an eagle not easily but he saved his job by either any. When he came. Or showing RB showing any signs that there's progress and the steel plate for a I think the bigger question in Miami right now the -- bigger question is. Why it during the order in charge of the personnel side of this team community. I'm not even concerned market camera I'm really not being. I don't think that that Bill Belichick or bill Walsh or Bill Parcells wouldn't ordered three innings in my -- it is here but. I think I. I think you've got to go out my. -- you get the best possible personnel guy he can and rebuilt the team that way I'd. I don't I don't keep track record we -- Mueller. Especially after into Wes Welker and kept hundred and balls for crying out out to the patriots were to accept -- seven. And it has -- is free agent because it's so late in the seventh round meaning to it Wes Welker. One and most important guys on the biggest rival in your division not a teenager are 800 miles behind. For the sixtieth pick in the draft. Idiocy this is stupid so I mean I think that's where they start.
In a Peter you talk about personnel decisions I don't think about this last night the Houston Texans got killed for taken Mario Williams first overall in passing Reggie Bush the next gale sayers well. -- Reggie Bush is your understanding -- hurt. You can Mario Williams this year three and a half sacks last night right here in the league lead in the sack category. Did they know what they were doing without a smart choice.
Well I I -- courts and turley cap early this week -- may deter many pick and you should look. When Mario Williams came indoor facility even the smartest and most pro ready mentally all the guys we brought it. I said including Reggie Bush and -- Absolutely and I wrote for our site dot com this week about Williams and about how oh -- beat Egypt 22. He's playing so precocious Lee and and doing so well and one of the things that that -- certainly pointed out is that. You know and except it's at the time till elder at -- desperately -- it. Could go to a game against Pete mechanic and bothered him in. Contribute at any body and so I mean how they got a 22 year old guy. Who's playing after watching a trip in the game last night he looks like he's slightly to contradict my. Michael straight into me I mean he gets nothing bothers some out their. He's very sure or he was doing. And you know it's amazing but I I think right now the text and -- bought it at the time. Passing Reggie Bush passing hundred young passing on the orchestra offer and all three guys that position but it be neat for. That was the smartest thing we've done and it short -- trace history.
Have Peter had a great draft do you think about it -- we're we're jumping the gun here but you get you get Mario Williams and Demeco Ryans in the same draft. Els a two impact players that Ryan's was last year and Mario Williams it's like it this year.
But what consider that today Demeco Ryans -- last season Gary Kubiak was still need. This guy's plate NFL for eight or nine weeks -- the leader our team apple eater Mark deep sense and not so -- Yeah you're right Michael that. It's ironic -- after he gets -- you know for not be able. Able to build a good team -- all that stuff and if you look back at that perhaps. The 21 picks of that draft work two of the best five or six players to come out of that draft as of now.
I was a little worried last week about -- AME we've been friends for along time but I had concerns for your career path. When I saw that Sports Illustrated named Brett -- the sportsman of the year and you can write the story I thought man that's an upset there.
Now that was OK today he you know there's other people work geared to what you all that aren't -- in situation like that. You know obviously are closed -- and I think they like get the first choice go look at it I. I think it's smart they did they ask me right DF. Yelled back at each sort of a a memory of Peter far all those years -- and -- the correct page about. The French repeat struck out -- the night. Year old girl -- Diego a couple of nights before that Super Bowl which was fun story.
Didn't Lleyton. He didn't -- right both because he wrote this week's cover story.
Ellen Ellen should not all car and Tim -- Clayton -- If this -- have -- story art magazine this week is one of the great stories that we've ever run I I don't say that lightly and I got outplayed us I I I I could do a commercial on this from the bottom my heart because this story on Kevin Everett. It's absolutely phenomenal for anybody -- great in eight article quite make it and I also think it's ten which are available on line but the most amazing -- Part of this story -- about this the doctor Joseph cappuccino from buffalo PA -- at this controversial treatment in mind in which he's going to talk. -- the body of if Kevin Everett to lower his court temperature which he does because he thinks that that's going to slow there -- if you know slowly. The patriots that he is going to be paralyzed anti deficit and there's tremendous argument at the hospital when he do it because other people they're. Including eight I think the -- post surgery that you can't do that. You know quackery in essence. Any fit their thinking okay air that gets your wife -- at a house I'm going to lose at all of our rock I met he'll kill me malpractice but it's amazing that your doctors. Think about you know something's goal still AJ interstate is escaping about that you may. And whether or not you're going to -- it now eat in malpractice if you're are.
Well or Peter my final question to you is is not as serious as Madison but on asked yeah interesting situation here in the NFL this year. -- coach of the year -- that Bill Belichick his team's undefeated but also have a guy who was a D coordinator here. Romeo Cornell does have a fabulous season in Cleveland who's the coach of the year your opinion Peter.
I'm I'm an idea right now almost a -- what eight tie between Beltre might -- speed and Earl it is. Is that here behind him.
And wade Phillips to write and wade Phillips has got to be in the --
you know what I. About wade Phillips but right. I just think that it's going to be harder. To trick to give it to a coach came into it just add water situation and and I credit him I always hate when people say are you Ali or do we show apart Sunday let them play that it it -- a great job. It sort of making parallel and feel like he belongs in -- important at all that stuff and and he I think he deserves you know some you know some credit but I think those other street -- there are a little bit more significant.
Peter we always appreciate time we'll talk to next weekend I have a six cap right now. They -- Peterson Peter King from Sports Illustrated SI dot com NBC and HBO. Brought to buy 1800 mattress the most comfortable mattresses on -- just phone call away at 1800 mattress. -- like kick off for delivery by the post game show 1800 MA TE TRE ghastly -- the last S for savings. On line mattress dot com
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