Fri, 16 Nov 2007|
Aaron Schatz of Footballoutsiders.com joined Michael and Jon to talk about the legacy of the Patriots, the Colts injuries and the resurgent Green Bay Packers.
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Every Friday we talked to guys on football one -- miss Peter King. The other one is this guy right here Aaron shots from football outsiders dot com Aaron dale has not here today you gotta do what John -- I don't. Honestly I can play in the whole idea the but -- mister -- that you guys Melhuse accede to its own opinion but in respect that's all it is. You know I -- the other guy on the other guy you talked about Friday yeah. -- said to you guys still respect -- I -- throughout here's my question one I want an old football outsiders can deal with the question of the day. Does Barry Bonds break and on your lists you put him advanced
I think just the baseball guys that do you have any questions that I don't like. You know listed him at -- think about double I was driving around earlier he talked about the record saying mean. You know the fact is that it happened. The record is just something people -- in their heads it's not like. Somewhere really exist -- doubt I mean we know -- hit it you don't think it was ballot that you don't think it was ballot. Picnic after an opinion on it but now like over it didn't happen let's let's take a shot merriment backed away from last year couldn't -- Because of that yet suspension means they happen but he didn't take them away from the quarterbacks to.
Right well Aaron it in back to football heroes this mess around with the baseball thing -- my opinions on this thing which is good back to football and I asked Peter King that's earlier when asked you from me from Europe. -- from a from a visceral response and I watcher your scientific response to. Dwight Freeney being out for the season for the colts affects them now.
I think it makes it harder for them to upset the patriots in the playoffs certainly and I think. Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh and maybe even harder he -- and so can -- whatever but you know the fact is despite all the injury that Indianapolis has. When they play at the bad team and stroke Peyton Manning out there with Bible random guy on the up -- why Reggie -- adjust -- 11 players. He would be -- it. So you know I mean unless something really weird happens I really can't seem were all these victories of fact. How -- get the bad teams on their schedule because of the fact that there are still like the players that are with a lot of players made to eat at this year much better at that. -- last year but I think that when it's time to play the real good teams including the ones in the division but you'll see if.
While I guess. You mentioned Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh is kind of work their way up the charts in a lot of people than paying attention to New England Indianapolis for obvious reasons -- two very good teams Pittsburgh -- come on. Big as of late. Are they in the patriots class and they can they give the patriots a game and they beat the patriots on the road either. Coming up later this out later this season or in the playoffs.
The next two questions because of course you don't have to be in the same classes the -- to beat them that's quite got upsets certainly. I would think of the teams remaining on the schedule Pittsburgh in the giants are the most likely teams to upset the patriots actually it its actual little more likely because their -- team. Because a they have done two good defensive and that we saw with the call that what you can only rush for a super Accra on Brady. He can't run most proud they -- they got back back to block and so forth. So -- Erik -- there's definitely a chance to think the patriots but they're not in the picture class because. Nobody's of the patriot I mean they are -- route to be the greatest people all -- they keep playing like as the rest of the year they're the greatest people of all I'd probably. You've been if they lose a game in the right received in August it was a close to putt there best team all I did it
now I know how you feel about Dallas you youth like Dallas is is a very good team as you said that the patriots class. Green damn a -- what do dismiss them every week and they keep winning every week where where did you put them.
Others had been operating now they're productive set then there's that would sort of they're behind the other teams that are at the top the league but there's kind of a gap really at this point between the top five and everybody else New England Pittsburgh Indianapolis on the look at the gap between -- and then Pittsburgh Indianapolis in Dallas increase and a little behind all very very. And just got this colossal dispatched teams between 3663 were honestly anybody could beat anybody else at a good unless they had the -- work.
I think David -- I. What I Aaron -- argument was quoted accurately the last few weeks it's been Steve McNair.
I know I know it's those that -- Vince young has played terrible two and that he keeps would think that the that's but he's you know is passing. Horrible there's a lot of back quarterback -- Alex you know.
Yeah Alex Smith has played so well in dental -- it has been replaced by Trent Dilfer. That does every.
Now let's talk about a quarterback that has performed well recently in his career is now getting his feet under him again. Hasselbeck in Seattle who have lost their top lines on it and he's been hurt all season long. But to look at the standings Seattle's on top of the NFC west and you look at -- these things. They've only given up 441 points which is better than the patriots and tops in the NFC that kind of quietly. Excess and collateral.
Yeah a lot of -- schedule they've had a very schedule they have a very schedule this year part of it is played in that division in our ratings we have Hasselbeck 12 total value but if you take away our opponent adjustments haven't. It's one of the biggest differences in actual history art numbers between quarterbacks dating with and without the opponent just so I do not I would sit defied. Nobody would support aspect probably more than I would outside of city of Seattle put on the -- record -- two years ago but. The fact is Seattle is really not in the same creep in Dallas they've taken on these.
you know going to put the pressure on -- into areas today the first area it is this you have an uncanny ability. You tell us something about a game that's going to play out and it and it actually happens so that's the pressure point right here could you need to tell us. How would this buffalo New England game going to look on Sunday what's going to happen that we're not paying attention to right.
All right I can't imagine that it's going to look any different from what anybody believes -- England is so far superior to buffalo that it would be greatest in history in the national football. And why I mean that that's despite. Beckett Buffalo's playing better than anybody realizes -- because they've done some good things this year innocent. The -- know about this game I think -- your pollen patriot is one. We finished about one Kelsey show -- not. The pass rush that they've been senior. Yours past you know those guys always get to Brady or anybody else but then again to -- patriots team in the teams of past. The second is that their kickoff returns are very good with -- McKie is once again a really good chance in the kickoff return for a touchdown -- game from. I 13. They're actually certain forcing kickoff return rating and nothing to -- about them is that they're passing in complete changes depending. Okay with Trent Edwards of quarterback while shortstop accuracy Josh -- the possession receiver and Roscoe Parrish is one of those you know guys who catches the screen and goes for extra Kenya whereas the when laden as the quarterback all the deep stuffed the happens. In these horrible throwing to -- perished so. With -- but it quarterback I think you know listen only got to do the double but -- in this game is not happening partially to play. I can't imagine situation patriots. We --
Well let our fantasy performers of the week last week according to you were J. P. Losman Kevin jump.
I can really were not yet whether the dolphins pass because decide to finally shut up.
Lot of their. At buffalo so how about this week give give me a guy ever to who's going to be an.
What the deal about it although last week was just back him out writing credited -- that's running these sensible but he. Basically whatever profit place New Orleans every week is good offense to play and other top. Comes back injury this week and mat shot is quarterback an immediate -- leagues and eternity we honestly -- Davis has been demoted to third receiver but it gets New Orleans that probably going to score a touchdown to.
Well I -- Kevin Jones last week and I'm I'm not happy with you so.
I apologize you know let's think about opponents is and in -- on matchups is that sometimes urged not to work out like grant that -- not -- got -- running back Lendale white. The Denver run decent. That this year and the Oakland -- at bats that Chester Taylor have a very good in the two sides and other altitude got to really get the ball at the cold wind so probably Pakistan.
I'm less question the other intriguing game obviously what we're focused on the patriot -- patriots and buffalo are big here. But to six in three teams the giants in the lines I'm really not sure if the lions are for real the -- aren't coming on so you so do you think the giants when big in this game
I don't know about we in big but that they are they'll pay more for appeal than alliance are the quiet. Played quite inconsistent. But he. And beaten up on so so so bad teams the giants played much better predict. When you consider that they're stats so what depressed by help or they were in the first two weeks the only thing sort of threw a wrench -- is. Is that Detroit home team. And their offense has been the same everywhere this year but there that has been unbelievable that are -- compared. So it's possible that you know they'll -- inning go crazy throw interceptions but I would think it's too.
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