Thu, 15 Nov 2007|
Ken talked to Michael & Jon, in for Dale, about the free agent market. Who's interested in Mike Lowell, the situation, in the Big Apple, with ARod as well as other potential free agent moves.
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Usually a year from this guy on Tuesday during the baseball season he has our baseball insiders -- the great job from fox fox sports dot com. And -- document details here today John Wallach is here I don't. Take up -- it. I -- I'm doing fine now in our open you probably hear you're on the line our our announcer voice it was going to get the latest on Mike -- What is the latest on Michael and is is the whole situation connected at all to -- in New York.
No in fact the Yankees are still. Lol but the play first base. So they're still in and I believe that there are other teams well the eagles could you want you know can ago Cabrera. The Phillies so I think it's a bit of -- back burner issue. I think all of -- their financial problems. Signing lol but there are clearly other teams in the next year and the question is Red Sox go any further it's certainly doesn't appear that way.
Well well well why not let wanted to beat the Red Sox are going to. Increase their offer.
Because they think the Red Sox have shown. Under the new ownership and Theo Epstein recent years that they assign values to a player and that. It'll deviate that the value date. Put on so I think that. That's where they are and I don't expect them to go much further they know who's going to ago. The market that you possibly can do better on the market but I don't think that it's going to sway them one way the other.
Can a couple of things we have a television report here in the local NBC affiliate here is reporting that wool as for your offers on the table from four different teams the Yankees -- the angels in saint Louis. Okay okay with that again I'm just repeating what the report is here Atlantic.
And then ballistic go adjusted but they have -- urged. Right and actually Atlanta. If they've moved chipper.
First they could do it. So it people but financially though financially it would be they would be able to.
Now and also they can -- Glavine. Obviously to suggestion -- field in some fashion so. Accession of jumped equipment is it's evil by and I particular office and it yet but I don't know that. That's the best that.
According to the report the offers for four years between 55 and 60 million dollars that's the range for all four contracts now. My question is all things being equal and you do have some contenders in there are that the Yankees why would -- go to New York to play first base he's already won. And he can join a contender like the angels. For the same amount of money it just doesn't seem like the --
you know logical question that and the answer. If it was yes I would imagine would be. They if in the best opportunity to win they get the most money if that was the case all of those things likens the all that. But at the same time. It's a fair point did you go to the -- and most of the angels have an opportunity. Presume limited Patrick and but it played third base I don't know how meaningful that is -- I would imagine that is meaningful and very good at it but at the same time is create. Players' minds get open and they do look different -- not -- it's going to happen but a statement it's certainly. Something he would consider.
You know can I gotta say I disagree with your year Scott Boras column today where you say that Boris. Has been humiliated the moment of triumph finally is at hand using your in the first that.
I I don't know what people out there. Now -- don't tell me that the -- paragraph that the mean I love right to run Ryder Cup.
No -- that the second paragraph filed the first Abu read aloud the.
That is it possible I want you -- it is. What -- dark client is on the verge of -- the biggest contract in baseball history to used to run environment so it is if -- you wanted to put the second paragraph. We don't need paragraph 345 -- right for all of us tuning -- can we move -- please -- it was putting out.
I of those full well each paragraph followed the and grow and these are brilliant writer and he should note that. -- people. And let me explain again what that -- to people want to talk -- that was. For all those baseball executives at rival agents who want Scott -- humiliated. The moment of triumph finally is that it. That is if it's possible for an agent to be humiliated when his start client is on the verge of landing richest contract in baseball pitched.
Getting -- no achievement you match. That he didn't get what he won it and I'm not so short. Like I'm -- it more but with Scott Boras in and tell where I'm wrong here I think Scott Boras. Throughout that 350 million dollar number as a best case scenario and I think he knew from the moment he set it he wasn't going to get.
Well he might have known that and certainly don't -- at the same time he today because of the great offers that he thought. -- at least not. To any knowledge -- get 30 out here on the open market and he was always the -- of many people that the Yankees were his best market. Turns out that that is the case and that nobody else stepped up to the point where. He was tempted to go elsewhere if indeed want to go back the beginning. In -- him -- negotiate the Yankees in the beginning when he got most like the -- better.
Better than this to 7275 that he didn't right now.
I think it is he negotiated up from the original offer eight years 230 to 40 might have done better what got -- at least respect as anyway. Irritated penalized 21.
Is look at what what what what do you what do you think happened here with this. Scott wars we want him out of the negotiated do you buy this do you think -- Scott Morse is not involved. As A-Rod negotiate that ten year contract for almost for almost 300 million dollar unless they almost too --
I don't know what role forced played. And that's the great debate goes on right now everybody in baseball does not like this guy which a lot of people. They want to believe -- report that Iraq had shut out yet and so. Apparently bourse in Miami several. Miami -- but maybe even in Miami helping -- has orchestrated pirates area. I don't know I don't know that were ever going to know but certainly Michael. For -- agent. To experience when he experienced starting with team for the World Series when the opt out -- announcement came savage for the just -- when -- questions about his role these negotiations it is as I wrote not his final out.
Well saying and it looks like A rod is going to be gone Michael is still in play the Red Sox don't seem to want to pony up that fourth year for the amount of money that that Michael seems to be able to get somewhere else. So now the big question is can what is the Red Sox fallback position obviously they thought this through -- it wouldn't have a good management team if they didn't. But the third base market is very thin and you have a gold Glover at first so. What exactly do you think the Red Sox will do if and when Mike will go somewhere else and an Alex Rodriguez resigns with the Yankees.
Miguel Cabrera is the obvious play here. -- that it would take a monster package to get him but that's certainly one possibility. Pretty attractive possibility yet may get two years went up prospects it would -- Imagine he's Ramirez and Cabrera and.
Life which which prospects I mean we can spot the I think we run --
Held very vocal and I'd like that -- them all but to get you know Cabrera news. Universally regarded as one of the best game maybe nationally -- yours in 24 years old you'd have to -- Now that's one option. They're going the other options Scott won't work out I believe to be -- trade as well. And you can look at the number of other things as they've looked at over the past year involving younger players. In -- first to third with -- Capel played the position.
Is there a weighty issue at all with Cabrera.
Is there waiters at all there's a big issue Sanders -- time questions about his off field haven't and dedication to gain but I believe. And I am not. Scout monitoring him amount of official investigation but it seems to me anyway that if he were. Good routine anymore professional environment. He would -- before I think would be -- spoken already in the last couple -- the need to lose -- of the understanding -- Put in Boston where people vote count every day as opposed to Miami where people pay -- attention. Put him anywhere else really I think he. In a much better place -- First what is not on himself last couple years.
All right Ken Rosenthal give me a 123 on. -- wear -- and Santana is likely to be likely to be in 2000.
If -- request. I would say one and so I would hate to the Yankees. And curator at.
So does that come down to which it if I.
That's a little bit other teams -- the real question Michael the first question is will they treat it and there -- two series. The first is if it is toward other close though.
And.
Going to need Santana had any chance of winning next season he would be they're only veteran starter.
I think moving into a new ballpark is well. -- have to sell that to the fans at -- don't.
Well the other side it is it is that's true the other side it is. If it is hunter so that it might as well dislike all laid down and trade him it would take and they got a lot of old films such as it was on and so and they at third base hole. Each hole. So I can either way obviously would take the right offer to keep in mind also really important point. It would you trade a starting pitcher you can -- a great guy for him at the trade. As good value perhaps if you would get in the off. When you trade a position where it is not always that way. Because teams generally filled their position needs and by the time the trade that each player he's the first baseman. In July well the teams that might. Want him might already be set at first base so. There's no great urgency here -- way and it might be that they just decide okay let's see how well we eat. And make decisions.
Now what every team gets Santana whether beat Minnesota weather -- the Red Sox whether beat the Yankees. What they obviously you want to sign him to a new contract because he's entering the last year what kind of money are we talking about here with Santana because Iraq decided to get a ten year Jordan -- million dollar contract obviously -- is not going to get ten years but. What kind of money per year what kind of package can he command. On the open market or to a team that trade for him.
I look at it and it Tibet the same way they're both free agent after next both left handed. And both very accomplished more accomplished in -- Barry Zito got -- under 26 now -- region laughed off the I've believed that. Those two pitchers each of them would get 150 million dollars of private stay healthy and everything is okay in the way.
Well if if you're giving up let's let's start with New York first. That's from time -- 150 million dollars you're the Yankees get Santana years you're giving up a 150 million dollars. To secure hand you're also giving up what prospect what I -- to -- guys that they would probably have to give up to make that deal yes. --
Cabrera two others now the question will be will -- when signed. It would package in the past the VP which is making its trade with a older he would not grant teams with those because it damaged his negotiating leverage or would damage. He felt that. It would people everyone what was going on. Dues suitors if you if you'll all part -- kind of read on the should they will grant negotiate. But certainly want that they pitchers have to be involved. As would be the case with the Red Sox and the reason I think the Mets -- at a disadvantage here is that. They are. Not as strong with the young pitching at -- and doctors and some other.
What so well we always talk about this in Boston with Michael. And with anybody else who comes -- and they play in prosecuting not impossible Michael was great for Boston great clubhouse guy. Santana is a brilliant pitcher but has anyone. Asked the question if he likes it he would rise in and in and in north -- environment like New York or Boston.
Boy I really think it would be -- in if you ever spoke with him or even ever heard -- interview. The very composed intelligent put together got. -- he is. Somewhat like Pedro is eloquent I think. And.
I just don't imagine that he would wilt under that expert it's not him he uses of big time you know it. Not overly cocky but he certainly has -- Confidence in itself. And like it would ever come his way.
You know -- Crying -- you you've gone back and forth with the Alan Michael about the American league cy young award in C. C. Sabathia I believe you kind of settled on sabathia at the end correct. So obviously you think that the bullet the writers got that one right has anything surprised few in the voting so far I know the national league -- in the -- going to be given out this afternoon against Jake Peavy is the favorite there's a reward. -- thank you very much have to thank thank you very much we added I think that's what's called -- scoop
it has been reported it and well yeah. I don't putted well.
I can't you know I gotta get down a break he had to do double duty today because dale. Like around 93945 dale had to go home.
Unknown outside of how -- I saw on espn.com it says unanimous choice but it's only -- because all of their experts to.
Q -- there -- and Detroit witnessed or. And you want to apologize feel sorry -- I got it happens -- on -- sell sell.
Anyways anything about the policies in voting so far surprise you I guess the the MVP awards you know obviously to be Iran the American league maybe colony in -- and it has anything surprised you so far.
I would say you know the little bit that brought on over to -- with. For the national league rookie. I committed patriot of I think to a he was the better all around player fight all. -- is zero defensively now his offensive numbers so. Really lack of better words that's what carried the day I can't argue that. But I really think Tulowitzki with better player and I think it's worth reminding everyone. Whoever would have bought -- ready by based on the regulars -- into the post these clearly if Tulowitzki. Was considered run at the post -- Josh Beckett was on the -- these results have been.
Well but still based just based on the regular season how to C. C. Sabathia. Win that election in 19 to eight and at first place votes it to me it seemed like it should have been closer.
Well I think two things came to light actually one thing innings he did pitched 40 morning and Josh Beckett. At about extort were a lot at a meaningful number clutch -- UT. Yet at scenic overlook.
But we sure -- I think every. That he had the best strikeout to walk ratios that left handers in league history. It's pretty strong in the end I think that along with eating really carry the -- also immediate thing was. It would Indians made their run and I did he commit a hundred argument for that it only for the Indians made their run.
that it was really.
At the peak of his game and needed equipment support at times during that run -- He was really really.
How do you justify leaving him off your ballot altogether howler. I don't want to have -- like there was this is it wants -- all about welcome duke where.
Yeah I don't I think that's. I can't just I didn't do it I just like a great time there -- question we have question this somebody else that's. Lesson for the personal yeah I at the personally I can't justify it.
and you know what we know you got this with the handle at the big day and in baseball held to -- guys say it's probably -- have been a big day for you since the end of the World Series and we always appreciate the time. We'll check in with your little bit later argument. Yeah that's Ken Rosenthal the outstanding baseball writer baseball commentator baseball reporter. Four fox TV and fox and fox sports dot com
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