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Fri, 5 Oct 2007|

Peter's weekly chat w/ dale & Michael, about week 4 of the season. Who will still be undefeated. The drug test failings of Travis Henry and other related "crimes". Which teams disappoint and the reaction of Yankee fans in NYC.

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  1. Cullen Jenkins14:25
  2. marlin Jackson7:51, 8:12
  3. Travis Henry2:51
  4. Aaron Kampman14:22
  5. D'Brickashaw Ferguson13:02
  6. Corey Williams17:56
  7. Marvin Lewis4:26, 4:35, 4:40
  8. Chad Johnson4:10, 4:36, 4:44
  9. Jon Kitna15:55
  10. Osi Umenyiora13:26

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I didn't give me your best player himself -- can -- you're protected -- your.

You know what -- Tell you a little bit about felt and yet is Delmon Young out on the phone with the Broncos this morning. They're not saying anything right now but this whole situation even though it appears. Within a week or so Travis Henry's going to be suspended for a year but are hot -- the most interesting. About this it it it goes my contention. Then you can find running backs eat -- can be productive. Easier than any position in football I mean you can make you couldn't make anymore. -- to you -- 170 the art back. What you need him to be more than you can make let's say you know out of writing the titans left tackle into an above average and it felt left tackle -- end -- just tell you this about -- He played at Texas behind Cedric Benson -- was compete with a corporate job when he broke his ankle. So then he was hurt and at the opportunity to show. They don't show it but he he can do when healthy they -- good enough for the chance Broncos desperately -- can't. And anybody who is who is given a scholarship to the universe be attacked because -- running back. Obviously he's going to have some talent. He's gone in there any -- exactly what Mike Shanahan wants is running back to do. He's a little bit quick but it is that the quickness it is the first getting through the hole and I. Eight to compare pictorial Davis and I am not saying he will beat -- Davis but all I'm saying is that every running back that Mike Shanahan has ever had. Beat him and his running backs coach Bobby turner is don't want to go out scout so these guys every single guy. It always. Com -- little bit productive Denver Broncos running backs so everybody not Michael Holley -- bought itself young right now.

While leaving -- young aside and focusing on the Travis Henry component of this. He has tried a rather unique appeal avenue in my opinion but I also think he's got virtually zero chance of winning that appeal what do you think.

Well the NFL usually has these appeals but up pretty well I mean the bottom. -- technical thing is I don't know whether legally -- the NFL cap. Did have. A representative of a player. At that in the peace sample tested quite frankly this is the first I've ever heard that and eat eat well right now they're going to try to open it but I don't see it -- that Travis -- away and that's. And eight we will see what happens it is peace table but I haven't heard any examples. Peace triple being negative Yates it was positive now a great life speaking Marion Jones did happen one time Kirk I think after world games in 2004 -- very rarely does repeat sample. It was basically comes up positive.

Hey Peter the entire football nation watched the patriots -- dangles a Monday Night Football we saw sidelined exchange. Between Chad Johnson and Carson Palmer Palmer took responsibility initially. They Jack Johnson came back and -- no it was my fault I want to let these sideline exchanges happen all the time I understand that on other on other teams. But the dangles there seems to be something extra going on there and Marvin Lewis addressed after the game what is it European

what it is is that Marvin Lewis needs Chad Johnson to grow up. And Marvin Lewis each if you look at guys on offense to grow up but most notably Chad Johnson and I think -- Is not in any way shape or form. -- it's about getting rid of Chad Johnson or anything like that but the fact is that when you're professional unique in the disappointment and failure little bit better and -- Johnson goes eight. The silliest thing I've seen all year is we checked. Got to get knocked out of bounds or not count at two yard line and -- in in his head like his dog just died. I mean AL INA about didn't go on the next play it it just gives gives peaks and valleys emotionally. Kurt that team and went some other -- currency getting away with it what do you think they're going to --

You think they're in trouble well I made it there one of three right now do you think this.

now aren't they have never not been in trouble and cannot just say that I have no idea which you can -- or anything like that but. I've always thought it was absolutely totally insane. To take the Cincinnati angles to win it to win that division or to challenge to go to the superbowl or anything like actors very simple reason. -- deep sense it is -- bottom six or seven deep bench in the NFL you cannot consistently win games 3831 in this week. And that's what. They knew that they were going to be in store for the beginning of this year and when you count on -- for -- later. Everything because they'd basically named eat eat eat out just dismiss it their most important player -- eat ants to count on him to be your -- Difference maker -- it pretty nice. Football player. He'd be about four defensive linemen on patriots -- Okay -- I averages seven sacks a year he's not a real it's -- it -- good solid NFL player you know he's Jarvis Green. And it's ridiculous that that is right now. The most disruptive player on the baseball's front seven they have a chance even at -- don't have any -- on offense.

Peter we were trying to come up with a conclusion our own mind earlier in the shelled out where the patriots are perceived nationally right now. An -- and the two choices are are -- the clear cut favorites nationally when you look at the rest of the NFL or is it New England and Indianapolis. And then a big drop off obviously everybody else.

Well I -- you -- hockey USC UB BA in -- your seat I would say New England the a little bit over Indianapolis you know they play at a neutral field in Wichita New England 2824. You know so much what I -- we just don't know for instance how serious city injury market -- seriousness Joseph Addai shoulder. How badly are boxing -- real -- bruised or broken the CEO struck -- struck a marlin Jackson yesterday recorders really played great for them. And and he was talking about Howell beat great thing about this team. Is that they too -- people not to play right away like a lot of people do but they draft people hopefully when they're ready. -- said we have. Guys right now in place like marlin Jackson got an eight point corner right now after two years ago learn the system everything like that. But you know I I hate the point well you know you may have to -- if you guys and that would be injuries and that's what you can never tell. Like when the patriots play the colts aren't. What kind of physical shape or both teams -- be in I don't think we know but I don't think it's the patriots are better than the -- right now. And then. They're big massive drop off either Dallas or the Packers order. Pittsburgh nursing NBA or -- you you'd think it is is right behind them.

Peter adjustments in the draft I don't know a lot of patriots fans are thinking about the draft not because of their -- because that was taken away. But the San Francisco 49ers they lost Alex met. They look like of -- bad lifeless offense. In patriots fans really reasonably expect. Top ten pick from -- sisco.

I doubt it because their defenses it is -- is going to play very well but I can see you know the 12 or 14 pick -- it's. I think 49ers have you 7988 may be six content. Re not Alex -- I mean not start 49ers this week and they are convinced that Alex Smith is going to be playing by the end of this month now does that mean October 21 against the giants that's what he is painting. Four I doubt it but and you know what I -- even -- PJ is playing. And he wasn't playing great anywhere I think he misses Norv Turner quite a bit but haven't set all that I would say probably. -- look at it if you get it right now. 12 or 14 pick which obviously could be a real good pick can't you know what Bill Belichick and Scott PO lead you there. Obviously they -- use that 12 pick they might trade down to 26 pick. And it decent second round pick something like that because they obviously made eight doing net net more -- manageable situation later in counsels say.

Peter you mention Norv Turner and and looked in the NFL head coaches don't get fired during the season it never happens and it probably won't happen anytime soon. But if they did. Would Norv Turner be in trouble right now.

Absolutely I mean he'd be classic case you don't -- somebody there's apt like for instance this would be good at current coaching situation if -- eat let's go. But he doesn't and -- distraught straight out of San Diego protector Ellis is it. -- that job so I mean it law in essence. They've lost five guys from that coaching staff okay. And when they lost those five guys like for instance. You know rock -- since key electric Cleveland to be offensive coordinator he's got really really good job they're great -- and a lot. Are they like Camelot so they've lost a lot of quality coaches which means that there -- a lot of good candidates on their staff to take the job now. That the chargers have not disintegrated yet. And talking -- yet -- this week I get the feeling that. They at least to go before. You know -- route freely Kate bit I think what you're going to see them do this week. Everybody got being in Tomlinson -- fantasy football going to be very happy because they're gonna get between. The Denver Broncos were cute couple 188 rushing your 181 rushing game which is -- for -- cute he coached heat sets. And with any problems and is going to touch the ball 30 to 33 times this week I think. So I would be very very surprised even though it's in Denver I should say Dierker I'd be surprised if they didn't get off right.

And positive that they -- Ladainian Tomlinson and salvage young on the same teams -- benefit a bottle has started out there. But investors to Peter we we talk about the JETS -- yet in New York oh in New England. We focus on the management delicate situation understandably. But we haven't let it this team this team is one of three and they shock me by -- the buffalo last week what's the problem with the New York Jets.

I think there's a couple of things I think that. And I think they're going to have been problems this week protecting -- at this offense that apply. Just it's not the stone wall that it might even on the near anti -- you know try to build and you know D'Brickashaw Ferguson has just been okay Eddie gossage being the fourth pick in the draft a year ago the great off season this year he came back a little horse sculpted but -- He'd get beat quite often this year and I think that that it's been a disappointment so deep committee. I don't think that you're -- human. You're going to -- or out think you're going to see Osi Umenyiora deal -- in this this week -- do you think. That you know cumulative efforts -- very good defensive line playing very very well right now. It's going to do in the -- this Sunday.

Now I I stepped lightly into these waters knowing what a big Brett -- manual are -- is this team doing it with smoke and mirrors because they shouldn't -- four NL with the defense that they have.

Well let me carry -- their defense is better. Then the then then they look so far I think it's and and it helped eclipsed I mean. I don't know how many teams other than say the patriots. May beat colts -- who played different style. Who has three cent dividends and in 82 giants to a three defensive ends quality oh Aaron Kampman. Kabeer Gbaja Biamila and Cullen Jenkins who might be best for the ball I mean they're going to play better they are actors are good. I can stay -- a little trouble now everything together chemist spot it. Playing very unit I think they'll be better year goes on but. All that they really need out Eric Charles what can stay healthy at the drop off after that Carter significant. And Andy you know at some point I walked out of the stadium -- on Sunday night and exit eight. You know we're not going to be able to keep it up -- ball I think that serious serious issue they get their info --

I'm going to stick in the same division Peter and askew Mike Martz some and we take it for granted that. Mike Martz can get an office going last year. He got some great production out of that office this year it's the same thing. -- Mike Martz -- days as a head coach over or people who don't look at his his two year body of work in Detroit say you know what. This guy we winning this got to be head coach.

You know that's really good question I think if they have frank conversation -- country's dignity and Lois and trust those guys. They won't hire arts because. They can chart at a difficult time being on the same page with martz your right -- in terms. You know -- except the offensive coaching. Especially take at a guy like Jon Kitna and turning them into it -- back the back for unless he gets hurt back the next 4000 yards per hour I mean look what he did obviously -- Kurt Warner he should get another chance in this league I think he really wants another chance I think it just depends on out between us change our alliance sent out this year.

You know what look at saint Louis another got a lot of issues but. -- use a Mike Martz right now somebody -- get that off its --

Saint Louis would not hire Mike marks -- you all.

Auto I don't know I know they would -- and they've they've missed his offensive expertise when you look at. Some of the things are going through right now.

Well but also I would say their. It's going to be hard for it art for bill Walsh right now that offense because lying is so bad I think your worst offensive line in the league right now they're like so bad. Know quarterback is going to have enough time it's almost like. -- Gus Frerotte this week is going to have to do rate steady diet of three step drop very quick throws because. There's just -- jailbreak -- not offensive line -- almost every step.

14 was left -- four now Dallas Green Bay Indianapolis and New England. Which loses a game first.

I'd say Green Bay unless well that's tricky question. Because the patriots in doubt plate next weeks ago. In other words it's he would ask each year after it -- same green bakery they would have to loose. This week at the Chicago out the -- game for me to pick I ain't gonna pick in green paper that was our that was really hard. Because Chicago's played for life and Green Bay you're right at some holes. I'd say probably hit it right yet right now. I'd say I stated have to beat Dallas because I think dallas' it'll lose -- going next week an immediate hurt.

He would do you think Corey Williams. Inability to cover will hurt the cowboys when you get into the playoffs in the face of teams that can really exploit them and that secondary.

Well Michael first at all. One of the things that it has been historical lost over the last couple weeks 'cause dialysis played very well. Is that Terence Newman is not going to beat a player. Eat he would at any topic this year because of his clinic are -- Shiite and it's a severe case. And sell. I think the biggest concern for feminist secondary is matching up against an accurate quarterback to throw the ball -- that's why. You know I hate to say this at this portrait your week away I think. I think the patriots might beat the cowboys bylaw because I think Tom Brady's going to have -- that secondary.

Before we let you go or Yankees fans panicked in the streets down there

you know they are -- and that's and one other reason is that. -- it was a bizarre used to the pitching staff last night. Joe -- they're count three and instead of bringing -- Philip Hughes papering in the olerud or kit. You know hole obviously -- big surprise to people about their postseason roster why in the world would you put all -- in the game before field -- It just seemed totally bizarre I'm not saying they were to come back for anything but. You know after the Indians kept it.

You know all off all indoor bet it was almost academic and you know why you bringing -- why you wasting Philip Hughes who then I'd rather have it ready to start -- For meat beat because operate or a lot of Yankee fans. Are very concerned about their concern about being down two little one. And and seeing -- come back in game four -- Messina. You know and and having bad -- game of the year Peter right right now the Yankees are currently leaning toward pitching machine and gained four. Which I don't know I don't -- you I would think that beat the bark or at least the potential beat the sparkle. -- It'd be entire series because I didn't count any way shape form on sweeping. The Indians even -- would be home if if you if you call down vote.

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