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Mikey and his old buddy Bill the Spaceman Lee. Enjoy another colorful coversation with the Spaceman on Mikey;s Planet!!!
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We got a guy on line eight calling from Vermont his name is William. France's lead and he's enjoying the age of 59 for another few hours. I -- I am not -- with a variety of it will of course not but not but he crazy yeah what do wasted time that would be the producer thought I was the -- LE IG GA Vivian Lee. -- that's she die this year from I don't know what's. Shelley winters did at a and it -- Like get to wire read it's going to picked up on one hand throughout the way exactly yeah I don't my friend you got back from California did you adding conference 67 days the longest then California I've done since high school. While that's -- so --
You -- an interest in 59 years in 364 days so far you've had let's see you book boarded Burbank, California you've pitched the USC trojans in the college World Series victory. Under under coach rod. NATO and that government that was big thrill for -- B percent over regular World Series of course 1975 actually two games of the lead that series.
Yep I -- both game with a one run lead. But it didn't get a win now I got to go to vision then below ERA pretty good at innings ratios strikeout walk. And wrote that I I threw better than anybody else I was very flattered that he that that you know.
He could hit a little bit but it. Yeah that lineup was when he talked once every five series I I can't recall any lineup ever in the history of baseball that that was so formidable I mean maybe the 27 Yankees back again I can't recall that.
So called in the big red machine and they were they were dominant during that that stretch everybody had that little dominant I know lobby for us it was the Oakland Athletics. You know you have camp and errors or a Jack and and note and it's Rick Monday you know all the way down the line and they want it and then -- reds want it. But we -- good I mean if if rice had not been hurt we had a lineup that would go down in history -- I -- greatest -- right up on the line.
Yeah because that World Series was so hard fought Jim rice you you're absolutely right because he was a right headed guy nobody hits fifth -- that lineup. I
it was unbelievable when -- he was healthy and play well like you getting in Oakland and that Freddy -- was just unstoppable. He all the way down the line the only guy you know Cooper had a tough series but because they start him in left field it's that a carpal let's think -- plays every game every inning you know it hit the weight dead.
has run a rice was so you know right hand -- the and that -- the reds had a lot of left handed pitching that they bailout pitching changes -- was costly go to left handed pitchers and Cecil Cooper had a bad. World Series -- was like two for 19 or so.
Yeah he eight couldn't hit a high fastball he never could hit the high fastball and televised fastball pitcher I'm Kelly right what -- up go it is. Just the matchup they haven't -- was is that guy was in his prime right when he came out at me. He was second the most valuable player voting you know land. Any -- you get two guys are rookie of the year next rookie year most valuable player 12. Right in the middle your lineup and we were lucky I mean. That was the greatest rafting here I think we ever had in the history it's.
Not to not too shabby freer for two rookies Tacoma and contribute that much they believe it's 31 years ago though.
Though you like -- my guess that I'm 59 and the thing is this year I went to Florida and I played. And I got a group that was fixed it over your allowed -- were like race horses if you're bored within a year -- 60 -- and number 28 so I've been -- all year I play as the 60 year old college tournament. People are paid me money there. And I played the 60 over tournament and we worse start we or like -- two and we made it to the playoffs and I'd -- it -- give me the ball all roll the dice ultra 27 innings and more -- And I threw 27 innings in 24 hours and we won the 60s over world at.
That's pretty good that's -- mailman you know like just -- paid a white satchel Paige I'm not -- that -- I deliver money -- you give me enough -- is that enough wine I -- it all they've -- what was your rob what's your fastball down to.
Now it it money it is I have a bat ball after right at the breaking ball I looked like in oh. I can that Cuba and changes deal and the fine -- but the ball. You know at a high ankle sprain I was haven't it was everything today I had maybe 3200 milligrams at me at the you know it's like getting another old guy I -- any -- couldn't shape. Because applied myself -- the let I don't know that they. Now it's jugular vein but I I can I don't want recap you know -- Korea that he or -- yeah your old are you what -- you vote for him no element. He was out telling me he's another one of them great football players came out of Michigan should ago on row you know and it's like those Republican they just put men -- posted.
That's thats about it. That was the way to vehicle with the swine flu vaccine that has to done it. It wasn't him -- one story it is writing op any thing but he's one guy but he played pro ball in which all people -- out at all down of the ski -- that was his big.
They did that Chevy chase just added to press falls imitating I know you you will it back then in the in the 70s things were little bit different -- out now days always talk about news -- that steroids were were -- players during your era in the 70s with the Red Sox using performance enhancing drugs.
We're playing using performance decreasing drugs.
We I don't know I mean they shot me up with there is solid being the result would the court his own if I had a problem pure heart I've I heard they had not than they were going to -- in the -- out there. I can pitch in the American league but I could not run in the Kentucky.
Right right because they've what they've wrecked he would not at it would never have passed that test. Well but back then it was the all that kind of stop was used as a healing thing supposed to wait body building you know long term program is that correct --
Now Martinez goes -- gets a cortisone shot in his shoulder how dig up past the steroid. Has corners owners. It is a steroid it's it's what they get a pick and choose which -- you can't beyond them you know it's the -- then in your body it's a protein in it in anything that you put -- there's -- attached to it. And whether -- be natural -- synthetic. You know looked they got it down everybody's going to keep they're going to toward France's -- support they're not going to be at or perhaps notably over the past the physical right right there's going to be one guy -- a tricycle.
And he'll be five years old back. Now -- Iverson we had -- normative my good friend Lou Gorman who's a nice -- reason he's on the committee for the Red Sox hall -- guys may be the isn't old navy guy and we're -- little -- I just want to give -- the rundown of what I told the -- case of the you know focus your good friend of -- I want should be aware and it sure you're aware of the numbers but. The fact the battery is that ball all awful all for these guys were Red Sox Hall of Fame bubble -- Packers Lee Hurst and and line laporte. You had 94 career wins that's two less than bobcat but you also lost 43 fewer games than he did in your ERA was lower out you have more wins six more wins -- lakers' leader Red Sox uniform -- three less losses.
And a lot -- are a -- 8881.
Yep and music he was a 33 point nine Dewhurst -- a left that does compare a lefty versus lefty. -- had 88 wins you had 94 -- had 73 losses you read 68 -- ERA was four point 23 years was three point six war -- about the mission as you know. And and this is Miami edition my friend.
Any -- it won't work because all the guys who voter narc collapse they. It would make much in my name -- photos please us.
Global village yet we're going to -- them with a deal keep boy they're not about Starbucks out there again couple well I tell you why.
This is the year now that you're going to be 60 years old you waited long enough you've done your due punishment for whatever revolutionary behaviors had as a member of the Red Sox I.
Still out there I'm out there that's our go to the dealt you collect only brought. I hear he's fine by the -- he's going to the 20 years left you know he doesn't -- the east -- he certain oh -- he looks he looks bad -- for -- right now.
We ask a couple of baseball question you had two Hall of Fame catchers caught ship pretty much the bulk of your career -- and and Gary Carter you did well with both of them. You won 16 games in it would with Gary Carter in Montreal he also won 173 years in a row with a Red Sox with Fisk. As your catcher your preference as far as who who throwing to -- what with a good and bad points body there would be your catcher.
Well there are both excellent receivers they were easily coach of all neither one number two right like if the actually. Marymount couple I told -- don't think too much I'm going to change ate my favorite catcher of all time was Manny saying Guillen in the senior late he caught -- he said they don't throw what you what it's most likely get that -- He hit a little bit too many get. His -- I pitched the ball game in the idea. I think Canada and the home town of Ferguson Jenkins Chatham Ontario it was a seven inning game -- we decided we -- out -- it if he'd -- And I got a seven inning inducted into foreman if -- well that was they're right that was one of my favorite games. And lot of like game the game I pitch against the White Sox when rain delay and I in the last three innings -- not as slow curve ball in during net -- both my managers charged the mound. They're manager mine manager and -- my manager was saying making a mockery out negate the people realize what regain control the ball out of the guy he did make it would raindrops it's actually rate.
It's a good beats the -- ball it's the -- yeah what is that called it I was not that game. By the way that's -- I was at fenway gets a white --
It was against the White Sox and there when I was at that Milton it'll line drive off my chest space slipped if Ellen -- yet picked it up and I laid -- a drive out laughed out nicely on the -- laid there it was just like -- that. It was Mike's favor --
Wait you you know I was one of my -- moments too because they're -- they're like three rain delays of 45 minutes each and that's a lot of beer drinking time you know.
I'm telling you in that they at a party Leonard the -- allowed to get here my little clique to come what happened. You know down -- avenue and coming in the back way it was funny and people don't realize there's a lot of shortcuts go round.
What's that the -- it was at like among the greatest games you've ever pitched even though it was so weird for the.
Great was that was Joe Morgan the manager not not the primadonna he he said he saw the greatest game ever thrown and that was me against Jim palmer Saturday night game of the week started it to 15 he left. If spinning I went through three rain delays I won the ball game ordered. And while 11 inning ballgame -- that I must that's wrong.
It is so how did you stay loose in a rain delay because not nowadays you know the pitchers now it's like forget that this at their perhaps the now they're they're done I have a beer and now. And that may not -- in that order -- nap now that's good that's good modern medicine.
Like the guy goes Betty goes -- ten dollars he says wanted to go home go to sleep because -- was they can do -- in the other direction that brought.
Now let me ask you question because the Yankees are right now supposedly Randy Johnson who we all know the Hall of Fame future for the guy but -- he looks like his -- puke he's going to be maybe go to the Arizona Diamondbacks that it and that may open the door for the Yankees to inquire Barry Zito your thoughts on Zito.
All they're going to go after Zito well that's what we're here that they don't great big ballpark he did as he he's a fly ball pitcher. And -- a lot of changeup just fastball dog meat doesn't turn the ball over enough he's going to have any army have about five in us all ballpark he's got to go to the grand canyon to whip. Yeah so he's like blog but it is there and left -- he got that big over and there's but it I don't think he'd throw that hard. You know it he's not he's a great pitcher could be a great pitcher but it makes dumb pitches and done situations I've seen him lately you know and I think you need the big ball park win and well thank it was a big ballpark. It you'd be better because the Baltimore. About him I'd go to Detroit.
Yeah somewhere where they got a big outfield I've bought up pop up this guy must his -- now we haven't see you of course we saw below but the World Baseball Classic I I haven't seen him pitch in person we've seen some tape on the guy but everybody says that he -- got five or six pitches that would without a deceptive -- to -- basically the same -- different pitches and you know so I don't seem of course and the track record he hasn't Japan he he looks like he might be good would have you seen anything from him in all of.
And the WBC early in the year I didn't see him much been the highlight he seemed to really be double to sneak a fastball by yet at least that's -- what a lot of do do. Which is -- but I mean he felt like these are great competitive pitcher.
Is due to a Japanese word for cock. If you know what about track -- talent you have all over the place aboriginal global over the BUN interpreter of.
Solid but he he's got to pitch whatever that is what he has is a bad slider. Now if you trust sliders sliders great because it looked like about -- the last minute breaks away from the hitters bat or break inning jam him. Depending I would citing its -- well this guy throws a slider that the back -- slight. Now back up slider get people out as the US you either rotation you're expected to break it goes the other way from its disproportionate -- People don't realize you can control it you know or anything going at that moods he sounds like a -- smart pitcher and they say he's got big -- all of result yup which which worries will wait a believer diminutive be looked like a ghost is.
Yeah ice it on and I guess that made it if he's got five pitches the rotation now as schillings last year approaches. It looks like Schilling Beckett -- his aka papelbon goes into the rotation on you don't think so spring I am really I don't think okay because I thought it was going to be a starter before he became their closet last year.
Well he's a hard Tories attempted pitcher you gotta be a three pitch pitcher I think. -- starter
alike of him I wish I wish answered -- on that is -- on board Dominican pole winner renteria in but he didn't -- closing your were your arsenal. Accurately is he in crime it was -- everywhere you'll want it view -- the best I ever saw -- Smith was lights out when he was on. You know I mean all close up -- died from separate it got today -- he had arm that he -- steep -- any it chest Arafat. It is that is there was but he got eight.
Million dollars from Texas even though he can offer he would pitch two winnings last year double -- search via and he -- he gets eight million guaranteed to bail but feel like a lot. Well well I I -- wish you happy 60 birthday as of midnight tonight yeah we're going to have a listener of the year dinner at Fleming's wanted to when you're coming out of Boston again to a take you know --
Being night yeah I'll I'll I'll never all -- my -- hip operation -- and it can't all be here almost the winner to stay in -- you need me I will anytime in your aunt and listeners you know it just. -- you know read a lot of don't just stay away from the herald. You know and instead really you don't get knowledgeable read a lot of different stuff and step -- and don't believe everything you hear and half what.
Happy birthday in my friend at paper might take care about bill leak -- goes from -- very Vermont
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