Ken Rosenthal, Fox Sports - MLB

Each and every Tuesday at this time we connect up with our baseball insider from fox sports. Fox sports dot com and of course the Major League Baseball package on fox on the weekends Ken Rosenthal as with a solo can ally. And doing great doing great and fact we're probably both doing better than Roger Clements as today I would gas.

I would guess so it obviously no one knows yet the extent of his injury. How serious it might -- but tuchman man's sport like -- oh game in the elbow problem. For any pitcher this year would be warming which Roger -- Even more alarming but -- territory in any conclusions were drawn on the certainly am sure the.

Wasn't it ultimately an elbow issue that ended the carreira 46 year old Nolan Ryan.

I don't recall. But certainly any pitchers situation any pitcher's career elbow is. Probably won't shoulder certainly is right there with that -- a guy. Part of work just get out on the mound start which have to do eight. Any alterations program. To the larger question. What are the Yankees asked him well. The basic the head it off as reliable starters they have those news I think news you could start. But he very you know in this scene is a loss right now so. About a week ago but assure their -- opposed. Now I'm not sure of the because of the pitching question that there.

I would expect of the Yankees in the second and I know you do two since she worked for fox --

I don't I just they. Glad glad I was airing in Kansas city of Pittsburgh even Detroit you have a very reason. Just show in Boston Red Sox a lot of puppet.

Yep they're absolutely clear right yeah yeah but I want to ask you about another a former Red Sox pitcher another former Red Sox pitcher. In Pedro Martinez he's finally came back in the day. What did you think of his performance what do you think of him going forward. --

Very inspired for the most part even though the results were great but this team back an amount. Roy terrific -- did it in the eight hitters paradise great American ballpark -- ticket to good hitting team and after wobbly in the first inning. There and pitch as he always does he do that humanity. Still I think of force tactic and -- just -- Lee be -- or no never again. The same type of artist. Best here -- when it all sorts down. I just think. It's been really exciting to watch him every fifth day down stretch.

Cause it's gonna ask you that you know about reinventing himself we've seen here in Boston a few times. All we saw the great dominant Pedro 992000 that we saw the guy who as you say it was the artist wasn't drawn at -- still. Put up an ERA of 222 now what we're we're used to what you see him being is he going to be Jamie Moyer type Greg Maddux what is -- now.

It's better analogy I think yet stuff lawyer still. Conclude what he's going to be Michael without. Over a period of starts. Is he going to throw 92 -- five.

Kenny -- up to 88. I think -- he expect yesterday game.

As he built arm strength I think they'll be able to get there. For Pedro that area is important because in the separation in the changeup but all of in. You seem it seem different to drop them off the top and the quality is great. To support -- no margin for error really it is. I don't think Pedro was air base that we saw yesterday even in the bullpen session that was there. I don't think he's at the point is that is that art diminished where he would like where I think tools Soviet there's.

If you're Red Sox fan you've known the named clay buchholz for a couple of years now because if you're Red Sox -- to follow this stuff. I don't know for an Orioles fan -- twins fan knew the name until Saturday night everybody knows the name now.

Question that was really something whatever it of Baltimore and viewers viewed as another dignity he lost -- but. What is most intriguing about -- about how old buckle hitter for and he gave it the night went back. Eat what they they lost it -- And one thing and Theo Epstein gentlemen Anders try to emphasize is that they have the player development chain. As well on field machines that may actually. This is great synthesis of the two. Great -- and I hope we get really with Pedroia -- very Lester. -- very good job -- only protecting guys. In trade talks but developing them and getting to the point where they all are.

Potential contributors of the major league.

They use regular -- Baltimore we've seen the Orioles would seem a lot do you think they have anybody in their system. Kind of like a buchholz -- they have is their system well regarded throughout baseball -- any hope there.

If not well regarded. They have some people and it certainly developed pretty rotation over the last couple years intriguing young British bedard. What buchholz was couple years ago for Peoria he is where buckle is now there a couple of years ago. They have a few other pitching prospect that they like. But I don't think any one Apple level oh they certainly don't have any position players -- Contributed that in the like Pedroia. They have a couple of young guys want attached that they just drafted that we -- Georgia Tech switch hitter much like Barrett -- And there's another it means the only role of third baseman. Missed several years away but very entry. So it's not Barrett.

You know I I I had felt all along the tigers were gonna right the ship and get some pitching backing Kenny Rogers was going to stabilize. Things and all that -- longer think that I think Cleveland is going to walk away with the central. And I -- I also thanked and I may be wrong here that Seattle. Will find a way to write that ship yesterday notwithstanding what's your opinion on the wild card race now.

Well it changes every day dealt -- pitchers yeah I still think the tigers accomplished getting Kenny Rogers back. Sheffield welcome back this week as well and these are hopeful. I think if those two guys were close to what they have in the past. They've got a coach why they're real chance 1 from her patience to the mariners even -- it always helped the average age ranked in the bottom. Her for the -- so when you look at the tigers' bullpen and capabilities and their rotation potential -- still really like. Disabled in but I think they don't want push -- and Jason.

we saw a pitcher here last year Josh Beckett gave up. An incredible amount of home runs he's been great this year but the -- given up the homers now is Daisuke. -- why do you think he has struggled especially lately.

My question is fatigue in the inning and transition. Over Major League Baseball after all those years Japan pitched in recent days at a point. Toll is taken. We have. A number of safeguards in place they've changed is. Between starts routine trying to take advantage everywhere bullet but I think without question. It's a different game of all was different at the start he would just to that. I think the quality -- the lineup also takes its hole because it's more exhausting eight these kind of hitters start start based. If they can somehow get a little bit bigger movies. And give it to the point where they're called and they have maybe two weeks to go on the verge of clinching. I think they'll by the time on number of physical front. Ice skating -- which he's being in -- of course Manny being the third that would help that would benefit that a great deal.

We're having this discussion earlier about Alex Rodriguez next year. Because I think it's pretty likely going to be playing somewhere else will be playing third or short.

Obviously -- and Rico I have thought all along that stop force in the market both. Game if you do that. -- short again at a higher level. I don't think the -- that question yet however I do think he can play it. Indeed like Ripken was perhaps the later years -- very knowledgeable those at a place hitters compensate for. Yeah as the guys that got bigger over the years and I thought it'd. So much leaner -- very -- compared to last year part of the idea won the thought of that these possibly going back short. And there are several teams of course that could use in that position as well.

Now so funny talked about. Scott Boras marketing him at two positions if Scott Boras representing media members. I've beat the first person -- with guys Dorian is --

I think he would in anyway and I don't think people always understand what. -- criticize take at a comfortable situation I think that is fair criticism however. He knows franchises in money it would have turned out better as well at any general manager. Yet that global view. So you know where the -- you know how to get it. And o's farm system knows baseball. A lot of agents don't know baseball bat well scout player by player and you'd have very good field. For the game anyway they arrive. He's got a commodity. Who not only possibly win multiple positions that the he's got a guy as if -- quarter -- idea that he. Or is called me couple weeks back in it. You know what who's to -- out -- it till I'd hit record too deep goes without. -- more than halfway to. All in every three K is one person one or. Say you know what I -- have a lot to work out from. Sonics audit and insinuated that work out the terms of the player to work out terms it's. So yes I think he's don't I don't rule out but it goes back to the but -- lot of.

That we know -- free agency A rod will be the homecoming king okay but. The the runner up a member of the court would be Michael roll what what do you think the market would be for Michael you know saying that this is so he's not going to come to an agreement with the Red Sox. What would other teams how to how to other teams --

I think keep it -- perished very strong game I think he's going to be -- as -- it on. Well not hey. Player was getting on -- year's contract -- The all the years but it will maybe two years hoping it would go beyond that on the open market in the needed deposition which. He's going to do very well first of all if they rot. Most attractive third base now in fact the only attractive third base -- the other we agent third baseman this year. Get ready. Russell Branyan Mike -- Greg Norton -- brand -- So once spot opens clearly they -- these New York which would be completing his career circle will start with the but there -- so many other teams that have needed that spot as well that I think. Get a very good year he's had a remarkable year there's no question about it.

You -- we were looking at at this whole situation with. With managers and how they're perceived in Dan Shaughnessy road apiece in yesterday's Boston globe and and I I'm just wondering from a national perspective and I know that we've got a ways to go before you have to worry about this. But if you had to vote for American league manager of the year today where would Terry Francona rank.

You could be in my top three I think after the wedge there. Yes -- ocean and after that where you ago you could stated Tories do what is best job but the pack from. Not it's too he got the most points right so. Didn't what the Red Sox have done -- he's in the way they've played the -- level and all the things he does the right that chip daily base as or we doesn't mean you're I think one thing in story right out. One of the daily pressure of match up. And the idiot and -- well of media. And it's just something -- never goes away I think it would really well their time these short -- understand. But overall these are pretty good job I do think that high payroll hurt him in his quest to be.

And the national league would you consider -- now.

I would strongly consider the Iowa State not 300 million dollars with a new -- and they signed it brought it was well. I like obviously what departures -- dot -- up but lacked a great job Bob Melvin. Juli deserves consideration what you'd done -- Arizona very young. I think Charlie -- Philadelphia deserves a lot of credit because they had so many engines perhaps more than any team but -- And yet they hung in the -- on in the in it is accredited collegiate players to keep so that was kind of wide open.

You know Michael mentioned the home runs allowed by Daisuke and it's been you know pretty high number and it was for Beckett last year how many people out there watching us though. Would realize that the guy who's given up the most home runs in Major League Baseball this year is Johan Santana and that's not exactly going to hurt his negotiating power. He's given up 30 which is the most in major league base.

That's a lot period. Indy thing it. Really is fine but he's he's now lost to Cleveland five time. All -- incredible I don't know about it -- happens to pitchers it is.

Everyone has -- you're you don't have to negotiate this year remember free agent after. I think a lot of people expect between these approach -- he's the what the parameters would be for him to accept a deal. Result of proper toward. And I reported a couple of weeks ago that. It turned out deal at times I said he believed to be in the range of four years 5614 year. The two Minneapolis papers they reported that you'll actually re used 45 total 15 year. -- videos -- I think toward. The very. Much -- not Jones he offers tangible on. And I really think he special -- even though he's 32 years old -- take to reform -- years.

I you bring up an interesting point about the twins Danny and me even if that the twins could pay Torii hunter's 17 or 18 million if that's the numbers takes source. Really mean you have that their payrolls while 70000071 million something like that.

Right but Michael. It is Alex -- force here. But their -- the richest man in the world that's his choice absolutely you have a payroll at that level of grip. If he did -- higher risk losing money but there is a choice involved here.

there's a choice involved now I'll never defend a guy who doesn't spend money a member of ownership and management doesn't spend money I'm against those guys spend the money okay but. That the reality for for Terry Ryan is that you deal with maybe next year that payroll be 75 million can't afford to to spend 17 million. On a Torii Hunter or yelling at Santana as great as they maybe can't afford -- delicate he's.

I'm Terry Ryan Michael let hunter walked drastic and penetrate and and the and we because I don't think they can. It either of those guys to wear their payroll is going to be. Game in the greater equation what do you get. This trade I know he's had a down year we talked -- run. Still considered to be two -- best pitchers in baseball and rightly so. So to me rather than those the gymnastics trying to which opened vacancy on the best. One and I go ahead okay December 1 is that it everybody get their best trade offers by that date we trade on December.

I thought that's a good way to refugee.

Final question from me even if we acknowledge and -- hasn't that the JD Drew signing might have been the biggest mistake of his ten year. A bigger question for me is Kenya fix. Question.

I don't think can exit in terms of expecting. Now I think he'll have yours that are better I think you're like this that's going to be the pattern by. Short of trading and perhaps it's taken its view. Includes some money but the rap on. Has not changed and if you talked it -- I have heard it. -- your -- but in terms of playing. It is what it. Sometimes it's there go on the count -- the on base skills are tremendous but. Which just --

Can we always appreciate time we'll talk to you next week. What are they sensitive Ken Rosenthal from fox sports fox sports dot com and the Saturday baseball package on Fox's well